w8lifter
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
just curious why you're against the coffee and gum?
If I tell you, you will just argue with me.
Butt you can be useful as you have been lately....I understand there is an article in the current T-Mag that I don't have time to review on caffiene......I would even feel indebted if you did a brief review in Diet and Nutrition.
Want to take is a step further, the late Dan Duchane told me that coffee interferes with insulin regulation (and to avoid it on a cut)via the ??? Randell, Randele, some spelling, cycle. It is something I have never found in physiology texts. Do Chicken Daddys fish??
Here is a lead:
Caffeine inactivates the enzyme phosphodiesterase, allowing large amounts of glucose and triglycerides to flow into the blood stream. In this respect caffeine produces an effect similar to that of stress.
I want w8 to "do" the research on gum, the sugar alcohols associated with "an addicts" inability to control portions....and someone, has got to post some definitive research on "sweet tastes" contributing to hyperinsulinemia! (use that in your caffiene serch too)
DP
TCD<, I just got second hand info that the T-Mag article is devastating to coffee drinkers, and had to see for myself.
http://www.t-mag.com/articles/214app.html
An excerpt:
1) Caffeine intake (in all of its forms) decreases whole body glucose disposal (carbohydrate uptake) by 15-30%.
2) Caffeine intake decreases skeletal muscle glucose disposal by 50%.
3) When consumed with a standard carbohydrate breakfast, caffeine decreases insulin sensitivity, leading to large increases in blood insulin. But even in the face of this insulin surge, blood glucose doesn't disappear at a normal rate. When the body can't take up carbohydrates properly (as when drinking coffee), it releases loads of insulin to help out. However, the coffee actually prevents the insulin from doing this job and you end up with high insulin and glucose. That, my friends, is the serum profile of the obese, type II diabetic.
4) Caffeine decreases insulin sensitivity for at least three hours (this is the duration of the longest study they've performed), but the true duration of the effect isn't known. I speculate that it's at least five hours, the half life of caffeine.
DP
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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
just curious why you're against the coffee and gum?
If I tell you, you will just argue with me.
Butt you can be useful as you have been lately....I understand there is an article in the current T-Mag that I don't have time to review on caffiene......I would even feel indebted if you did a brief review in Diet and Nutrition.
Want to take is a step further, the late Dan Duchane told me that coffee interferes with insulin regulation (and to avoid it on a cut)via the ??? Randell, Randele, some spelling, cycle. It is something I have never found in physiology texts. Do Chicken Daddys fish??
Here is a lead:
Caffeine inactivates the enzyme phosphodiesterase, allowing large amounts of glucose and triglycerides to flow into the blood stream. In this respect caffeine produces an effect similar to that of stress.
I want w8 to "do" the research on gum, the sugar alcohols associated with "an addicts" inability to control portions....and someone, has got to post some definitive research on "sweet tastes" contributing to hyperinsulinemia! (use that in your caffiene serch too)
DP
TCD<, I just got second hand info that the T-Mag article is devastating to coffee drinkers, and had to see for myself.
http://www.t-mag.com/articles/214app.html
An excerpt:
1) Caffeine intake (in all of its forms) decreases whole body glucose disposal (carbohydrate uptake) by 15-30%.
2) Caffeine intake decreases skeletal muscle glucose disposal by 50%.
3) When consumed with a standard carbohydrate breakfast, caffeine decreases insulin sensitivity, leading to large increases in blood insulin. But even in the face of this insulin surge, blood glucose doesn't disappear at a normal rate. When the body can't take up carbohydrates properly (as when drinking coffee), it releases loads of insulin to help out. However, the coffee actually prevents the insulin from doing this job and you end up with high insulin and glucose. That, my friends, is the serum profile of the obese, type II diabetic.
4) Caffeine decreases insulin sensitivity for at least three hours (this is the duration of the longest study they've performed), but the true duration of the effect isn't known. I speculate that it's at least five hours, the half life of caffeine.
DP
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