Duck Dynasty and A-E

[jay_steel]

maybe you should try reading one of the annual Poverty Reports that the Census puts out. It talks in detail about how families on the borderline fall in and out of poverty depending on the economy.

But like a typical right winger you neglect to talk about the CAUSES of poverty, like deregulation, a massive financial sector, and the liberalization of labor. Poverty can never been solved when every single thing is done to increase it. Economics isn't a zero sum game, where do you think all that wealth the top .1% has came from?

tell me then how does the welfare system help get people out of poverty and i am far from a right winger, i do believe in welfare i do believing helping others beyond year self. I spend allot of free time with volunteer work, helping to employ homeless and getting them on their feet. I think my church as got more people out of poverty in my community then the government has. This has nothing to do with the .1% this has to do with the current welfare system. How does the welfare system actually help them become better people.

Let me ask you something LAM how often do you deal with the poverty on a daily basis? I am face to face with them EVERY day as a farmer and as a active member of my church. There is not ONE program that is not an entitlement program that does not allow them to milk off the system and find loop holes. There is not one system that holds them accountable. I laughed at my grandparents who are screaming liberals on Christmas because they are ALL about welfare and gov't assistance and they got mad at me because i missed our family party to volunteer at the worst apt complex to feed the homeless and inform them how our church is hiring jobs for 10$ an hour with no experience needed.

Also its also funny how growing up i had to earn everything i had from my grandparents who are "liberals" If i borrowed 50 cents they made sure i paid it back, but they have NO issue with people collecting welfare spending it on shit they do not need.

LAM your caught up in the right vs left bull shit to much.

I have NO issue with welfare however I have an issue with the current system that just fucks the poor in the ass and does not give them a chance to even get out a head. I am successful in life because my parents were STRICT financially and held me accountable for everything i did. My first car my dad bought me I had to pay him back and if i missed a payment i lost it for 2 months. You dont create strong responsible people from handouts and hugs. You create them by teaching them and showing them responsibility.

Like I said I am all for welfare so dont get that twisted up and call me a screaming conservative because I believe in the people, However I do not believe in free stuff that you did not work for.

This also goes for the .1% you blab about every fucking post.

 

[hoyle21]

I am pro hunting. As a matter a fact, I think people who hunt for their meat are far more humane than people who buy their meat at a grocery store. However, to call it sport is dishonest. Fun, to some. Ethical, hell yes. Sport, no fucking way.
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I bow hunt wild boars. That's a fucking sport. Those bastards will eat you.

 

[IronAddict]

This is a racist false dichotomy where you are equating men now to men 400-500 years ago based solely on race.

A racist false dichotomy, my ass! That's the unadulterated truth and you know it!

Phuq outta here.

 

[jay_steel]

Just a little history here. Way back in the day, yes, people had to hunt to live, they don't anymore, especially a gotdamn billionaire.

Now the native American used to hunt, kill eat every part of the animal, even the entrails and use the pelts for warmth. They used to pay homage to those animals and thanked the lord for putting those animals here for them to eat.

Fast forward a couple hundred years later, the white man appeared and damn near wiped these people of the face of the earth because they called them uncivilized and savages.

Now, those same men mount the heads of their kills on their walls as trophies, who's really the goddamn savages?

Were still phuquin savages, just snazzier dressers.

i hunt to get my freezer stocked with fresh meat and fish. I farm to keep my fridge stocked with fresh veggies and fruits. I cant stand the high prices of organic foods and the rip off it costs because of the hype of eating organic and a refuse to put hormones that do not say the words test or tren into my body. I don't hunt for fun, i target shoot for fun. I hunt to feed my house hold. I would rather them eat clean meat then meat that is heavily processed and probably coming form China now.

I would say i only spend about 500$ a year to get enough meat for my wife and I to eat throughout the year and give some extras to my family. This includes fuel for my boat, hunting tags, and ect. We butcher all of our own meats. We actually just started to run our own cattle for meat as well. Just got 20 heads of cattle we are running on our property to raise for beef.

 

[jay_steel]

I am pro hunting. As a matter a fact, I think people who hunt for their meat are far more humane than people who buy their meat at a grocery store. However, to call it sport is dishonest. Fun, to some. Ethical, hell yes. Sport, no fucking way.
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I bow hunt wild boars. That's a fucking sport. Those bastards will eat you.

When i was in the Navy Active there was a guy from the south that i tried to put in the Navy as a Recruiter. He had to take a phyc evaluation because of the scars he had all over him from hunting boars with his hands and a knife. This guy was fucking nuts. He said he would hunt them as primitive as possible

 

[IronAddict]

i hunt to get my freezer stocked with fresh meat and fish. I farm to keep my fridge stocked with fresh veggies and fruits. I cant stand the high prices of organic foods and the rip off it costs because of the hype of eating organic and a refuse to put hormones that do not say the words test or tren into my body. I don't hunt for fun, i target shoot for fun. I hunt to feed my house hold. I would rather them eat clean meat then meat that is heavily processed and probably coming form China now.

I would say i only spend about 500$ a year to get enough meat for my wife and I to eat throughout the year and give some extras to my family. This includes fuel for my boat, hunting tags, and ect. We butcher all of our own meats. We actually just started to run our own cattle for meat as well. Just got 20 heads of cattle we are running on our property to raise for beef.

I probably could've chosen to string together my thoughts a little better, but I really have no problem at all with hunting, and I didn't mean to offend anyone with my discription of a hunter. I just don't find pleasure in killing an animal with a high powered rifle with a scope. Sneedham says he hunts wild Boar with a bow, now I find a challenge in that and it gives the animal a 50 50 chance.


I just tried to convey that a man has to try and feel power so he shoots an innocent animal. But if that animal had his own weapon and fired back there wouldn't be anymore hunters, cause let me say 1st hand, when you are shooting at someone and they're shooting back at you, it isn't any fun at all. And this guy will never point the business end of a piece at anyone or anything ever again.

Unless they're breaking into my house and I have to protect my domicile and my wife.

 

[jay_steel]

I probably could've chosen to string together my thoughts a little better, but I really have no problem at all with hunting, and I didn't mean to offend anyone with my discription of a hunter. I just don't find pleasure in killing an animal with a high powered rifle with a scope. Sneedham says he hunts wild Boar with a bow, now I find a challenge in that and it gives the animal a 50 50 chance.


I just tried to convey that a man has to try and feel power so he shoots an innocent animal. But if that animal had his own weapon and fired back there wouldn't be anymore hunters, cause let me say 1st hand, when you are shooting at someone and they're shooting back at you, it isn't any fun at all. And this guy will never point the business end of a piece at anyone or anything ever again.

Unless they're breaking into my house and I have to protect my domicile and my wife.

no your fine with your opinion i respect it to. I just feel its more respectful for the animal to hunt and kill it then have it live in a farm fed field and caged. There is no right or wrong answer and I am not emotionless when i kill an animal. I actually repelled 50 ft once because the buck feel when he died and had to dress him on the side of the mountain to get him back up. We use every part of the deer, what ever we dont eat I get processed and feed to my dogs, such as the organs and ect. Best dog food ever.

where i hunt though its allot harder then pointing and shooting. We trek on horse back for a day or two camp out and track them. There are parts of the mountains where there are dumb deer that are use to humans but to me thats not worth the hunt. I have to say though since i got into bodybuilding it is a freaking lot harder lol with less range of motion and shitty cardio. haha.

 

[sneedham]

I probably could've chosen to string together my thoughts a little better, but I really have no problem at all with hunting, and I didn't mean to offend anyone with my discription of a hunter. I just don't find pleasure in killing an animal with a high powered rifle with a scope. Sneedham says he hunts wild Boar with a bow, now I find a challenge in that and it gives the animal a 50 50 chance.


I just tried to convey that a man has to try and feel power so he shoots an innocent animal. But if that animal had his own weapon and fired back there wouldn't be anymore hunters, cause let me say 1st hand, when you are shooting at someone and they're shooting back at you, it isn't any fun at all. And this guy will never point the business end of a piece at anyone or anything ever again.

Unless they're breaking into my house and I have to protect my domicile and my wife.

Sorry iron I do not believe I said that...just clarifying....

This Message Was Sent By ME!!!!!

 

[IronAddict]

Sorry iron I do not believe I said that...just clarifying....

This Message Was Sent By ME!!!!!

Sorry sneedham, it was hoyle I was trying to remember.

 

[sneedham]

Sorry sneedham, it was hoyle I was trying to remember.

No problem iron....please continue....

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[bio-chem]

The fucking guy who's fucking remarks spawned this fucking thread.

I got 3 fuckings to your two, woot!

Care to show me where he said that? I went and read the article and he said to him a vagina is better than a butt. Seems a little crass, but fundamentally true from my experience.