dumbell press form

[fatandugly]

they say train heavy to get big right? ok, but they say for dumbell shoulder press dont let the elbows go below the shoulders. Well that reduces the weight i can use by about 50%. I know this keeps the stress on the shoulder rather than the triceps but if you did say barbell behind the neck which is reckoned a great shoulder builder (with dangers too i know) your elbows would be well below the shoulders. So i find this a bit confusing.

 

[Gazhole]

I've never heard that elbows below shoulders thing.

 

[fatandugly]

if you look at 98% of videos of the dumbell shoulder press they keep the elbows at the same height as the shoulder (more or less). Compare the position in that exercise to the psotion in the behind the neck or military barbell press.

 

[ceazur]

 

[fatandugly]

so that image would appear to say JUST below shoulder height which makes sense.

 

[Curt James]

Not sure if any of this would be informative or applicable, but you might want to take a look: Common Orthopedic Inflexibilities

 

[StasKora477]

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[tballz]

Arnold presses brings the elbows way down. It's a great shoulder pressing movement...really hits the front delts.

 

[RuslanIgla279]

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[unclem]

grab the 130s and do db shoulder presses like a mad man. i do arnold presses with the weight. but just be careful when u lower the weight thats where the injury can start. but yeah arnold presses are all i do with db presses sometimes striaght presses.

 

[Phineas]

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What is this? Death to the infidels?

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You resurrected a thread from the spring to agree with Osama's cryptic message?

 

[fufu]

they say train heavy to get big right? ok, but they say for dumbell shoulder press dont let the elbows go below the shoulders. Well that reduces the weight i can use by about 50%. I know this keeps the stress on the shoulder rather than the triceps but if you did say barbell behind the neck which is reckoned a great shoulder builder (with dangers too i know) your elbows would be well below the shoulders. So i find this a bit confusing.

Bring the dumb bells down around chin level for proper ROM.

I'm not quite sure I understand you. Are you saying that by only bringing your elbows to shoulder level you are 50% weaker? In every single instance I have seen it is the other way around. Perhaps not 50% stronger, but definitely more because the ROM is drastically decreased.

Bringing the bar behind the neck doesn't make much of a difference as far as tricep stress. The elbows extension going on is nearly the same. The weight is being loaded through the arms nearly the same. Behind the neck isn't a huge difference, it is still the same basic movement.

If you can retract your scapula and externally rotate your shoulder wells, you can usually do behind the neck presses safely. However, those attributes are very common weaknesses.

Bring the bar or dumb bells all the way down and all the way up.

 

[Marat]

I see there's a lot of discussion over a damned seated shoulder press...

 

[fufu]

I see there's a lot of discussion over a damned seated shoulder press...

Something worth addressing because I see poor technique all the time. Typical gym folk are notorious for skimping out on proper ROM during the OHP.

 

[LAM]

Something worth addressing because I see poor technique all the time. Typical gym folk are notorious for skimping out on proper ROM during the OHP.

and a lot of other exercises. IMO especially with the chest if one doesn't ever really build that mind-muscle connection development in this area will lag. I don't think a lot of people ever really learn how to use the pecs with many of these exercises. they focus to much on moving the weight from point A -> B

 

[PushAndPull]

and a lot of other exercises. IMO especially with the chest if one doesn't ever really build that mind-muscle connection development in this area will lag. I don't think a lot of people ever really learn how to use the pecs with many of these exercises. they focus to much on moving the weight from point A -> B

I think this is especially true for any kind of isolations.

 

[fufu]

and a lot of other exercises. IMO especially with the chest if one doesn't ever really build that mind-muscle connection development in this area will lag. I don't think a lot of people ever really learn how to use the pecs with many of these exercises. they focus to much on moving the weight from point A -> B

For sure. If one is too progress well they can't just "go through the motions".

 

[midwest216]

if u have shoulder issues, then try having arms at a 45 degree angle away from body but parallel to floor. If your healthy then 90 degree angle and parallel to floor. For an intense press try turning palms inward (facing each other), hold weight near chest/outter pec and raise weight on same rom to full extension and back down to just beside outter pec. Will really hit biceps and shoulders, not alot of pain so i really like these.