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excess protein calories stored as fat??

Trevordean said:
Hi, I'm a PT. Here is some stuff from the NASM Personal Training study book. Your body has a constant need for energy and ALL calories above that are stored as fat. You need 50-70% Carbs to fuel the body. You need 15-30% Protein to repair tissue. You need 10-30% Poly or Monounsaturated fat for transporting vitamins A,D,E and K.

It takes 23% of the calories in carbs to store the carbs as fat. It only takes 3% of the calories in fat to store it as fat. More than 30% protein leads to heart disease, and cancer because of higher intake of saturated fat and low intake of fiber.

You need 6 lbs. (96oz) of water per day. Consume carbs/pro/fat/water in every meal to keep the engine running smooth.

Ah, a certified trainer has arrived in the nick of time to tell me I need more carbohydrate and less protein! Excellent. I'll just go back to being hungry all the time.
 
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Protein Stores as Fat

An excess caloric intake of anything (even lean protein will eventually store as fat if your calories are exceeding daily recommended total.
ie...you should be eating 2000 calories a day but you're consuming 3000 (even if the extra 1000 is skinless white meat broiled chicken breast).
 
An excess caloric intake of anything (even lean protein will eventually store as fat if your calories are exceeding daily recommended total.
ie...you should be eating 2000 calories a day but you're consuming 3000 (even if the extra 1000 is skinless white meat broiled chicken breast).
but i thought the cells in protein were made up of cellulose so it cannot be absorbed by the body
 
but i thought the cells in protein were made up of cellulose so it cannot be absorbed by the body

The cells in protein? Protein has cells?
 
but i thought the cells in protein were made up of cellulose so it cannot be absorbed by the body

Not sure how you came to this conclusion. However, I highly recommend looking up the terms: "cell", "protein" and "cellulose".

Once you are familiar with those terms, I think you will understand why your statement doesn't make any sense.
 
but i thought the cells in protein were made up of cellulose so it cannot be absorbed by the body

What's the weather like on your planet? :run:
 
This thread is a black hole.
 
The answer is yes. In metabolism, there is no such thing as "excess". There is what you use.... and what you store.

"what goes up, must come down"
"in equals out"
"No free lunch"

ect ect ect.

Allright, this is my first post here because I want an answer. If there is no such thing as excess, then explain this to me:

From Protein (nutrient) - Wikipedia, in the Excess Consumption chapter (cannot post links since I'm new).
The body is unable to store excess protein. Protein is digested into amino acids which enter the bloodstream. Excess amino acids are converted to other usable molecules by the liver in a process called deamination. Deamination converts nitrogen from the amino acid into ammonia which is converted by the liver into urea in the urea cycle. Excretion of urea is performed by the kidneys. These organs can normally cope with any extra workload but if kidney disease occurs, a decrease in protein will often be prescribed.

So it seems that BigDyl is right and excess protein is pissed out.

I think that gluconeogenesis happens when the body needs energy. It won't start gluconeogenesising stuff for fun. And even then, if there is glycogen, it won't even touch protein. It that way, excess protein is not used and not gluconeogenesised.

I'd really like to have a definite answer about that or a rebuttal of what wikipedia is saying.
 
Ok, I think that I understand now. Amino acids are used for repair or converted to nitrogen and carbon skeletons. The carbon skeletons are then used as energy (ATP) or stored as fat via gluconeogenesis.

Google PROTEIN METABOLISM and pick the unisanet result for the reference (can't post links).

I think that wiki article sucks.
 
I finally got the answer from Lyle McDonald. Excess protein is NOT stored as fat.

The fact that I can't post links is pretty annoying.
Google "Excess Protein and Fat Storage" and get to the bodyrecomposition website.

while the biochemical pathways for the conversion of protein to fat do exist in humans, the likelihood of it ever happening in any but the most absurdly non-physiological circumstances are effectively nil
 
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