Fat-Burning Drugs

[M.J.H.]

I am really really serious about entering this best-body competition at a local club/bar in about 5 weeks. And of course my diet for whatever reason is never all that great. And I really need to drop about 15 lbs. of flab.

Anything you guys recommend? I have taken M1T in the past, S1+, and usnic acid, along with a few other things.

I have considered Clen, but I am not so sure about it. I am looking for something decently priced that pretty much melts fat off your body. Advice?

 

[LAM]

in that short of a time frame either usnic acid or DNP

 

[M.J.H.]

So usnic acid or DNP would be a better bet than Clen? What would you recommend I take it with LAM? What kind of dosage? Should I take it with milk thistle, what kind of cycle, etc. I can generally tolerate fat-burners very well. For example I was taking 500mg of sodium usinate without a problem at all.

 

[Mudge]

Clen is going to be shit by comparison man.

 

[M.J.H.]

Thanks Mudge, so I guess usnic acid/sodium usinate is my best bet, hands down then. Anyone know of any good sources? I used to know of one, but it changed names.

 

[LAM]

check your PM's bro...

 

[tucker01]

What about Triac?

 

[Twin Peak]

Its suggest a strong androgen and cytomel, personally. Add in a ton of whey, low fat and moderate carbs, and you are done.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

What is usnic acid, anyway?

 

[LAM]

What is usnic acid, anyway?

it's a naturally occurring metabolite that can be found in specific lichen species and kombucha tea...

 

[Duncans Donuts]

Oh.

 

[LAM]

Oh.

sorry bro...

fungus + algae = linchen

 

[Duncans Donuts]

Through what pathyway does it assist in fat metabolism?

 

[LAM]

Through what pathyway does it assist in fat metabolism?

it uncouples oxidative phosphorylation and in response the body steps up ATP production and increases the metabolism...

 

[LAM]

the shit works awesome ! I used it about 6 month ago and lost about 3% body fat in 5 weeks while eating ice cream, cake and cheesecake several nights a week (gf has the sweettooth)...

 

[Twin Peak]

Uncoupler.

 

[Cardinal]

If you don't want to source out tabs, you can always get liothyronine sodium (t3) as a research chemical fairly cheaply. Same with clenbuterol. Both are cheap enough to get some to keep onhand and you can experiment with clen just over the course of a few days and see how you like it.

Of the heavy hitters, clen is the only one I have direct experience with. I think that it is certainly something worth trying at some point. It is however very potent in comparison to ephedrine imo and you gotta be really careful dosing it if you get liquid. I don't plan on exceeding 40-60mcg/day of clenbuterol. Then again, I have a lower tolerance for stimulants in general. fyi, I get much better appetite suppression using clen than ephedrine. Something you might be interested in.

Also, don't forget the possibility of using something like a simple Nicotine patch to help with appetite (not necessarily stacked with other crap).

 

[Pirate!]

Its suggest a strong androgen and cytomel, personally. Add in a ton of whey, low fat and moderate carbs, and you are done.

I concur. T3 and test is the way to go. If it is to be one of these two, I'd pick DNP over UA this time of year. You can get UA here: http://www.cjintnllabsupply.com/orderpage/orderpage.html
Here is a good article for doing a first cycle of DNP: http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=2159
By the way, these all have potential negative health effects.

 

[Mudge]

I don't plan on exceeding 40-60mcg/day of clenbuterol. Then again, I have a lower tolerance for stimulants in general. fyi, I get much better appetite suppression using clen than ephedrine.

I've done 200mcg in a single hit, its not that hardcore. Appetite suppression? Never heard of it, never experienced it.

My friend who is a WOMAN was doing 300mcg a day, with ketotifen.

 

[M.J.H.]

Okay now I am at the point where I am deciding whether I should get Cytomel, DNP, or sodium usinate, and I am also considering T3.

 

[LAM]

for 5 weeks DNP or UA will burn the most fat off you...

 

[M.J.H.]

I am still a little tempted to try Clenbuterol, just because I have never taken it before.

 

[LAM]

Ranking in terms of fat loss

#1 - DNP
#2 - UA
#3- T3
#4 - Clenbuterol

 

[Duncans Donuts]

Where do I get UA? Is must be legal if it's found naturally in plant life (or whatever)...what kind of doses are appropriate?

 

[topolo]

try trimax!!!!!!!!

 

[LAM]

Where do I get UA? Is must be legal if it's found naturally in plant life (or whatever)...what kind of doses are appropriate?

due to some bad press by the FDA just about any OTC supp that contains UA has been pulled.

I tapered up from 200 mg/ED to 500 mg/ED (took about a week) then ran it at 500 mg/ED for another 4 weeks.

 

[topolo]

here is a ua source for you

http://www.cjintnllabsupply.com

 

[Mudge]

I am still a little tempted to try Clenbuterol, just because I have never taken it before.

Its not suck ass really but I'd rather do T3 if I ran a single thing alone, but using higher doses becomes catabolic.

I also prefer the sides of T3 (sweats, occasional hot flashing) to feeling like I'm on speed.

 

[BoneCrusher]

SO clen gives you a speed feeling? Does this include a loss of sleep or a hard time getting rest?

 

[BoneCrusher]

I too would prefer the hot flashes to a loss of sleep ...