Favorite Lateral delt exercise

[assassin]

lateral side raises

 

[GoLdeN M 07]

yes. what r ur opinions on it. I might start doing it.
http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Delt.../DBRaises.html

 

[assassin]

must be performed in a good form without swinging the weight or leaning forward and u must not hit ur sides try just to touch them ..also must be done after prefatiging ur delts with a compound movement or more.........could be done in seated or standing position or only one hand and u could also lean on a wallto make it harder and hit more muscles but u'll have to lower the weight cause it's really harder,,,,,,,

 

[GoLdeN M 07]

Ok. Is it any good in working the lateral delts though, like does it compare to side lateral raises (i know pfunk its a "gay ass" exercise, just asking).

 

[CowPimp]

Ok. Is it any good in working the lateral delts though, like does it compare to side lateral raises (i know pfunk its a "gay ass" exercise, just asking).

How about you give it a try and find out?

 

[gopro]

damn!! alot of people cant even bench max that much.
What r ur opinions ont his lateral delt exercise http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidLateral/DBRaises.html

Yeah, well, that was back in the day when I could bench 495, seated press 300, do lateral raises with 80s, dumbell curls with 90s and other crazy stuff. Those days are beyond me now, LOL!

As for that exercise, I have tried them and do not like them. However, that does not mean YOU won't like them.

As CP said, give them a shot and see!

 

[Brutus_G]

Off topic i know but how much could you squat gopro?

 

[gopro]

Off topic i know but how much could you squat gopro?

The last time I did a regular back squat was about 5-6 years ago, so I have no clue what I could squat now. I much prefer hack squats, leg presses, heavy step ups, and extensions.

When I DID squat I rarely went past 405-455 for very slow, strict, deep reps. My eccentric contractions were always 2-3 seconds.

 

[IRON MAN]

1.Seated "dumbell press"

2. leaning unilateral side raises". If that doesnt work nothing will!!!

 

[IRON MAN]

Ok. Is it any good in working the lateral delts though, like does it compare to side lateral raises (i know pfunk its a "gay ass" exercise, just asking).

For many the overhead press will take care of the side delts. When a muscle contracts, the entire muscle undergoes contraction. This is true of the front and side delts during an over-head press. However, some may find that unilateral side raises will further increase the size of their medial delts while the shoulder press works their front delts much more.

Same thing goes for flyes and chest development. Jay Cutler has to rely of flyes for much of his chest development.

Note: I am a Big Believer in the Basics as well but isolation exercises are good for lagging body parts much of the time.

 

[Brutus_G]

The last time I did a regular back squat was about 5-6 years ago, so I have no clue what I could squat now. I much prefer hack squats, leg presses, heavy step ups, and extensions.

When I DID squat I rarely went past 405-455 for very slow, strict, deep reps. My eccentric contractions were always 2-3 seconds.

Is this because of the load a back squat puts on one's spine>?

 

[gopro]

Is this because of the load a back squat puts on one's spine>?

Is "what" because of the load on the spine?

Do you mean the fact that I don't prefer squats, or that I squatted so slowly when I did it?

 

[Brutus_G]

the fact that you don't prefer them

 

[gopro]

the fact that you don't prefer them

No, it is not the load on the spine necessarily (although I have injured my back a few times with them). It is just that I feel they activate more of my glute/hip musculature than my quads. When I finish a set of hack squats or leg presses, my thighs feel ready to burst. No matter how hard I ever squatted, they never really gave me that feeling.

There are certain people that are not structurally suited to squatting, and those that are perfectly structured to it.

It is a tremendouly valuable exercise for strength and function for ALMOST everyone...but not quite as valuable for bodybuilding purposes for many trainees.

 

[assassin]

It is a tremendouly valuable exercise for strength and function for ALMOST everyone...but not quite as valuable for bodybuilding purposes for many trainees.

but for beginners do u think it's important for transforming the body.... for increasing hormones and increasing the lbm and shocking the body,increasing protein synthesis and shocking the whole body......or do u think it could be replaced by other movements...

 

[gopro]

but for beginners do u think it's important for transforming the body.... for increasing hormones and increasing the lbm and shocking the body,increasing protein synthesis and shocking the whole body......or do u think it could be replaced by other movements...

I don't think that squats magically shock the body or increase LBM, but I DO think it is a movement that every beginner should be learning to perfect, to see if it is a valuable movement for them. It has to be given a fair shot, because for some trainees, it IS an amazing exercise.

I squatted every week for the first couple of years of my training, and then every other week for the next few. So, I gave it a VERY fair shot, but finally discarded it when I realized it was not a magical exercise for ME.

 

[CowPimp]

I don't think that squats magically shock the body or increase LBM, but I DO think it is a movement that every beginner should be learning to perfect, to see if it is a valuable movement for them. It has to be given a fair shot, because for some trainees, it IS an amazing exercise.

I squatted every week for the first couple of years of my training, and then every other week for the next few. So, I gave it a VERY fair shot, but finally discarded it when I realized it was not a magical exercise for ME.

In addition to that, I think squatting is a great idea because it will help develop all kinds of muscles in the lower body that machine exercises will not. Squatting also helps to improve body awareness to a large degree, and it provides a lot of peripheral stimulation for your core musculature.

Should squats not be the best for you at stimulating your quads, then they still make a great tool for stimulating the glutes and hammies. That is assuming you don't do half squats. Of course, there are a multitude of squat variations that should also be played with. For example, front squats really put a hurting on my quads. Olympic back squats do too, but not quite to the same extent. Bulgarian squats destroy my glutes consistently. PL squats murder my entire posterior chain. On and on.

I must admit though, hack squats consistently put a hurt on my quads. I think it has definite usage in a bodybuilder's program if freeweight squats don't cut it for them; even if freeweight squats work well it's good for variety sake if you get bored with the other movement. Unfortunately I don't like the movement. I have never been comfortable using machines like the hack or smith. They just don't feel right to me. Ever since my first time setting foot in a weightroom I have always been a freeweight guy.

 

[Brutus_G]

I agree about machines being uncomfertable. But i like the leg press and smith machine for squats or rack deadlifts.

 

[CowPimp]

I agree about machines being uncomfertable. But i like the leg press and smith machine for squats or rack deadlifts.

I actually don't mind the leg press for some reason. That doesn't feel so restrictive to me.

 

[assassin]

. Squatting also helps to improve body awareness to a large degree, ..

i like this expression [ body awareness ]

Should squats not be the best for you at stimulating your quads, then they still make a great tool for stimulating the glutes and hammies. That is . On and on.

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yeah they kill my glutes but for the quads i follow them with hacks for quads and deads for hams and l.b

 

[assassin]

smith machine for squats or rack deadlifts.

squats with smith is not a good idea i did it for several times it puts a lot ofstress on ur knees and will ruin the exercise in half the range of motion......

 

[assassin]

I don't think that squats magically shock the body or increase LBM, but I DO think it is a movement that every beginner should be learning to perfect, to see if it is a valuable movement for them. It has to be given a fair shot, because for some trainees, it IS an amazing exercise.

I squatted every week for the first couple of years of my training, and then every other week for the next few. So, I gave it a VERY fair shot, but finally discarded it when I realized it was not a magical exercise for ME.

i agree to the point were the squats are really uncomfortable at all i get a headache while doing this exercise and after it and i need 1-2 days of complete rest after finishing with it .....but do u suggest combining it with machine leg presses??or shall i keep hacks and squats and try some variations

 

[GoLdeN M 07]

Iron man, are unilateral raises doing lateral raises but leaning forward?

 

[gopro]

i agree to the point were the squats are really uncomfortable at all i get a headache while doing this exercise and after it and i need 1-2 days of complete rest after finishing with it .....but do u suggest combining it with machine leg presses??or shall i keep hacks and squats and try some variations

I leg press at EVERY workout, but will vary the movement somehow:

-use different machine with different angle
-place feet higher or lower, wide or close
-do them unilaterally

I will also include some type of squat, which for me is either a hack squat, machine squat, or a bench step up if I want to work my stabilizers and "move through space."

I would not use two squatting exercises in the same workout though...like squats and hacks for example.

 

[gopro]

In addition to that, I think squatting is a great idea because it will help develop all kinds of muscles in the lower body that machine exercises will not. Squatting also helps to improve body awareness to a large degree, and it provides a lot of peripheral stimulation for your core musculature.

Should squats not be the best for you at stimulating your quads, then they still make a great tool for stimulating the glutes and hammies. That is assuming you don't do half squats. Of course, there are a multitude of squat variations that should also be played with. For example, front squats really put a hurting on my quads. Olympic back squats do too, but not quite to the same extent. Bulgarian squats destroy my glutes consistently. PL squats murder my entire posterior chain. On and on.

I must admit though, hack squats consistently put a hurt on my quads. I think it has definite usage in a bodybuilder's program if freeweight squats don't cut it for them; even if freeweight squats work well it's good for variety sake if you get bored with the other movement. Unfortunately I don't like the movement. I have never been comfortable using machines like the hack or smith. They just don't feel right to me. Ever since my first time setting foot in a weightroom I have always been a freeweight guy.

Yes, speaking from a "functional standpoint" we are in complete agreement.

Oh, and as an aside, I think I hate front squats more than any other exercise. Holding a heavy bar across my shoulders and trying to focus on legs takes up to much neural drive for me.

 

[CowPimp]

Yes, speaking from a "functional standpoint" we are in complete agreement.

Oh, and as an aside, I think I hate front squats more than any other exercise. Holding a heavy bar across my shoulders and trying to focus on legs takes up to much neural drive for me.

I feel you on the front squats. It took me some time to get in the groove with them. I haven't done them in a while, but once I get accustomed to the movement I really like it. To each his own. Comfort is definitely one of many deciding factors in exercise selection.

 

[assassin]

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I would not use two squatting exercises in the same workout though...like squats and hacks for example.

actually i don't have machines in my gym just the hack squat machine with weights added to it....so if i excluded the hacks from my work out and sticked with the regular squats what's a good free weight exercise for quads and hams..(i do dead lifts i think it covers the hams a little bit)

 

[Brutus_G]

squats with smith is not a good idea i did it for several times it puts a lot ofstress on ur knees and will ruin the exercise in half the range of motion......

I only have a smith machine in my gym and i workout for the gym class i have no choice,but in about 7 weeks or so i will be out and joining a new gym .

 

[assassin]

I only have a smith machine in my gym and i workout for the gym class i have no choice,but in about 7 weeks or so i will be out and joining a new gym .

if u do't have a squat rack ,,, don't squat on the smith better use db's for lunges ,,i've also seen an exercise some guy was squatting with db's look for this exercise, at least it would be better than the smith , if it didn't cause an injury maybe it will increase ur injury potential further even after u change the gym....

 

[Brutus_G]

It also only has 96.8 pounds in dumbbells max. I mean they really go up to 48.4 but I'm figuring in two. Maybe i can get someone to jump up on my back lol(no I'm serious i will ask)