first cycle test,deca hows it look

[mike043]

want to start my first cycle Testosterone Cypionate and deca im 18 years old 6'3 255 pounds not sure about bodyfat bench 380 deadlift 620 been lifting seriously 3 years 4 years total

Testosterone Cypionate/400 - 500 mg for 12 weeks

Deca/200 - 400 mg for 10 weeks

Nolvadex/10 - 20 mg/Day through out cycle and pct


start pct clomid 2 weeks after last test shot
Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg
Week 3 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg

also when should i start hcg through out cycle or what and ive been reading i should take clen after pct to lower cortisol?

i know i have alot more research to do before i start but is there anything that stands out im doing wronge or need to add. thanks

 

[mike043]

another thing ive heard when ur younger the 8 week cycles are better on ur body?

 

[chrito]

you need to do 12 weeks!

500mg testo 1-12
400mg deca 1-10
30-40mg d-bol a day 1-6
20mg nolvadex1-15 to not got gynomastia
clomids for end

 

[FishOrCutBait]

you need to do 12 weeks!

500mg testo 1-12
400mg deca 1-10
30-40mg d-bol a day 1-6
20mg nolvadex1-15 to not got gynomastia
clomids for end

dude he's 18.

 

[VictorZ06]

Ugh...wait bro, you are still growing, 18 is too young.

 

[NEWTOTHIS1]

Not Yet.wait Till You Are 22-23

 

[sendit08]

I dont see why you would consider AS right now.
I know you are a big guy but there cant be very many 18 year olds that lift as much as you do.
Those are impressive stats and the more you build on that naturally the more benifit you will eventually receive from AS.
Give it at least four more years (most people would say ten more years)
I am going to assume that you play football because of your lifts at 18 years old. There are plenty of other ways to push yourself beyond your comfort zone.
Just Train Hard, eat like crazy, and rest as much as possible.
Proteins, Creatine, Stuff like this is what you should be researching.

 

[mike043]

I dont see why you would consider AS right now.
I know you are a big guy but there cant be very many 18 year olds that lift as much as you do.
Those are impressive stats and the more you build on that naturally the more benifit you will eventually receive from AS.
Give it at least four more years (most people would say ten more years)
I am going to assume that you play football because of your lifts at 18 years old. There are plenty of other ways to push yourself beyond your comfort zone.
Just Train Hard, eat like crazy, and rest as much as possible.
Proteins, Creatine, Stuff like this is what you should be researching.

no i dont play football, just do powerlifting but want to do a bodybuilding show towards the end of this year. protein, creatine ect. i already take all that stuff.

 

[mike043]

i know at my age i already have a ton of test. but im done growing i dont wanna get any taller than 6'3 anyway and weather your 18 or 30 AS still give you way more test than you are supposed to have so with proper PCT and all that what could be the difference

 

[Shadowcam]

i know at my age i already have a ton of test. but im done growing i dont wanna get any taller than 6'3 anyway and weather your 18 or 30 AS still give you way more test than you are supposed to have so with proper PCT and all that what could be the difference

Way too young. People take steroids to have test levels of an 18 year old. Take advantage of your natural test till it slows down. Im guessing your body fat is pretty high which is bad news if your thinking of taking anything. Why dont you start leaning out and train like a bodybuilder leave the needles for later in life, your body will thank you for it.

 

[mike043]

Way too young. People take steroids to have test levels of an 18 year old. Take advantage of your natural test till it slows down. Im guessing your body fat is pretty high which is bad news if your thinking of taking anything. Why dont you start leaning out and train like a bodybuilder leave the needles for later in life, your body will thank you for it.

im not sure what my body fat is but its not high and i dont have a gut im bulking to 265-270 right now . i know the needles are different but i already take 5 shots a day of insulin, i am diabetic

 

[mike043]

last time i took pics i was about 242 but i put them up anyway

 

[Chevrolet]

you are not done growing. starting down this road now will most likely lead to unpleasant problems such as male pattern baldness, erection and libido problems, high blood pressure, etc. much sooner than you would like. from what you say you have a great base, why fuck up your future when time is on your side?

 

[yokedmofo]

Hey yo Mike! I dont have a problem with younger bro's wanting to juice but alot of people on BB forums will not give you alot of insite at that age. And they are absolutly right. 18 is a young age and its not just because of your height.

Ok, now the other thing you mentioned was being diabetic and a type 1 diabetic. AAS might not be the best choice for you considering the the damage your body has already gone through and what it may go through especially with AAS. One good thing is being a diabetic injecting slin everyday all day has its benefits you will never really hit a plateau and will always be strong and big even without AAS, obviously you already are and as long as you keep your blood sugar levels in control!

And I know this because I also am type 1 diabetic, just becareful with getting to fat cause dam that slin will blump you up.

And based upon your stature and experience I think that would be a good first cycle.

 

[h-townbadass]

Dude, definitely wait a few years before working with any gear. Your body is producing a lot of testosterone now and you could get some serious problems in the future. Haven't you seen "the wrestler" yet? You don't want to end up like Micky Rourke.

What about the otc stuff? The prohormones that they have ay the supp store? Would that stuff be ok for an 18yr old? I have heard of some good results and have had some decent results from some of that stuff.

 

[BostoN SnaSa]

if hes gonna do it, do a test only cycle for your first time

1-12 test cyp or e 250mg/ew

followed by pct

 

[mike043]

ok thanks guys

 

[mattakaspeeedy]

Test 500mg per wek for 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week for 10 weeks

Those doses should be the minimum otherwise you are wasting your time and money and not gonna get the full effect.

 

[Shadowcam]

Test 500mg per wek for 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week for 10 weeks

Those doses should be the minimum otherwise you are wasting your time and money and not gonna get the full effect.

Disagree, No need for Deca on first cycle. If you have been training for years and diet and training is spot on you will balloon off 300-400mg/w Test, then you can build on that. Im not suggesting this to the guy that started the thread as I think there is no need for him to cycle.

 

[chrito]

first cycle need to be done corect so you can get most gains..any ifbb pro trainer will suggest you testo+deca+d-bol cycle.

 

[OfficerFarva]

Hey man, just thought I'd throw my two cents in for this one. I'm 22, I just did my first cycle like 6 or 7 months ago. I did 500mg/week of Test. E. for 11 weeks. I put on close to 40 pounds by the end of my cycle and of that I've kept a little over 20. If your going to do a cycle just stick with Test E or C for the first time and eat/train like mad and you'll see impressive results. I'd recommend waiting untill you're atleast 21 becuase you'll do more than just stop bone growth... Be carefull who you listen to on these forums, theres lots of idiots like Chirto out there. Good luck though and if you have a GF let her know you'll be wanting some every morning, afternoon, and night.

 

[Shadowcam]

first cycle need to be done corect so you can get most gains..any ifbb pro trainer will suggest you testo+deca+d-bol cycle.

Any IFBB pro will not suggest anything!