George Zimmerman Not Guilty

[flcrkr]

The Lead Investigator recommended a charge of manslaughter if any charges at all and the local prosecutor felt it couldn't be proven that it wasn't self defense according to our laws.The Jury had the chance to prosecute on manslaughter and even asked for a clarification on manslaughter from the judge and still found him not guilty.

 

[Little Wing]

i don't think it's murder because zimmerman got so scared during the fight he used deadly force. zimmerman is clearly a pussy and was very likely that scared. i think his crime is the horseshit that put them both in that position. there's not one shred of evidence that shows the kid was actually acting suspicious or drugged. nw is great but stalking kids with a loaded weapon hell bent on not letting "these assholes" get away this time is not cool and it's not calm and logical reasoning.

if the kid had had the gun or gotten it away from him and killed zimmerman i'd be upset he was dead but i'd think it was his own stupid fault for ignoring what was clearly 911 advising him not to pursue. he acted stupidly risking his own life as well and it resulted in an unfortunate death. his stupidity caused it and it could just as well of been him leaving his wife a widow. he was a dumbassed vigilante thinking tool that ended up killing a boy he'd decided was guilty based on nothing. his motive was good, he wanted to help curb crime in his community but he wanted too so bad he wasn't acting responsibly.

i'd like to hear what Jeremy Lauer meant by "he warned me he'd shoot him" too.

 

[Little Wing]

Zimmerman refuted claims by a cousin, now in her mid-20s, who told investigators that his immediate family were racist and that he sexually molested her from the time she was 6 years old until she was about 16.

He beat his wife.
He attacked a cop.

he wasn't just some level headed nice guy doing neighborhood watch.

 

[DOMS]

That's not true either. The lead investigator wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter after his investigation.

No, he's right, you're absolutely wrong.

Source (emphasis mine) "Zimmerman was treated for bloody wounds, questioned for 5 hours and had his sidearm impounded, but he was released as a case of self-defense. However, six weeks later, amidst heightened media attention, Zimmerman was charged with murder by a new prosecutor.[SUP][6][/SUP][SUP]"[/SUP]

Source. Also, the judge allowed the jury to, "convict him of the second-degree murder of Trayvon Martin, they can convict him of manslaughter or they can declare him not guilty of anything." It was an option, but the jury still didn't take it.

flcrkr is 100% correct. It's only because a black man was the victim that this trial gained its high-profile status. If Trayvon had been white, it would have been a non-issue. If George had been white, there still would have been this circus and he'd have been found guilty. If George's last name had been "Hernandez" or "Chavez", this would have been a non-issue. However, George's last name sounded like a white man's name, so we ended up with a circus.

 

[Little Wing]

The poor kid...

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btw. the kid above in those photos is alive and well. it's not even the right trayvon martin.

snopes.com: Trayvon Martin Photos

the last pre mortem pic of trayvon is this one.

and the so called angelic 4 year old pics were taken 7 months before he died. who's lying now?

 

[DOMS]

the last pre mortem pic of trayvon is this one.

Oh, god...

 

[Little Wing]

Oh, god...

this was his moms birthday 9 days before he was killed. doesn't look very gangsta. but i'm pretty sure they all look alike to you.

 

[DOMS]

this was his moms birthday 9 days before he was killed. doesn't look very gangsta. but i'm pretty sure they all look alike to you.

This is what I'm seeing your images as:

 

[Little Wing]

lol.

snopes doesn't like hot linking.

 

[Little Wing]

i think that's what gz saw that night too.

 

[Little Wing]

bastids. i see it now too.

 

[Little Wing]

there's so much bs out there. i'd like to see coroner's report mentioning if teeth were gold.

 

[DOMS]

there's so much bs out there. i'd like to see coroner's report mentioning if teeth were gold.

I just assumed it's the removable type.

 

[Little Wing]

Trayvon Martin: No, That's Not His Facebook Page Showing "Gangsta" Photos UPDATED - Miami - News - Riptide 2.0

There's a wonderful horror-logic to that last one, considering that Martin was visiting his father when he was shot. But the "Trayvon Martin" the page belongs to lists his school as Myers Middle School. All of his relatives are listed as living in Savannah, Georgia, where there is a Myers Middle School.
The late Martin, who grew up in Miami Gardens, went to Norland Middle and Highland Oaks Middle schools, and more recently attended Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School.
Trayvon Martin's real Facebook page is here, complete with photos and information clearly depicting him, and updated before the date of his death.
The bogus page probably belongs either to another Trayvon Martin, or to a kid who renamed his page in tribute.

 

[bio-chem]

That's not fact. They intentionally leave evidence out from the jury for various reasons. The entire case was televised so we know more than the jury does.

Did you watch the entire trial, or just the pieces the media told you about?

 

[Little Wing]

i don't get why zimmerman lied to the cops about having no criminal record etc if he felt he did nothing wrong. why he told 911 the kid was late teens but told the kids parents he had no idea the boy was so young. the kid got to be 17 for 3 weeks. sorry to disappoint people but i think that is a shame.

 

[bio-chem]

what pisses me off is the idea of ANYONE following my kid and not backing off when 911 told them point blank to back off. my kid on a public sidewalk carrying a tea and skittles. not like this was a b&e or anything just a teenager walking at night talking to his gf on the phone. i still think only a pussy thinks they need to kill a skinny unarmed teen to defend themselves. it's not just a kid attacking someone it's a kid being followed attacking someone who might be out to ass rape him as far as the kid knew. not cool.

So should your kid turn around and confront the potential ass raper? is that what you want your kid to do? if travon martin wanted to outrun zimmerman he could have. the kid runs home, and goes inside, zimmerman follows him sees this, then realizes he made a mistake, feels foolish, and learns a lesson on profiling. crisis avoided.

I do not believe from anything i've seen that says zimmerman was "out to get some action"

 

[cornedbeefhash]

Zimmerman is a piece of shit wannabe cop. Fuck him. Police told him to back up and let them investigate. He didn't follow and now there's a dead teenager. We don't really know exactly what happened in the time between Zimmerman following the teen and the death, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would have to murder a child to defend myself. Another piece of shot walks free. Him and Casey Anthony are, IMO, murderers. Nothing will convince me otherwise at this point.

 

[bio-chem]

explain to me how this kid was supposed to know the guy following him wasn't out to cook his brain and eat it?

Seems if he was worried about that he should have ran home, or used his cell phone to call the cops. not attack the guy following him. Do you want your son confronting jeffrey dahmer if he was following him? shit woman, think this through.

 

[DOMS]

Zimmerman is a piece of shit wannabe cop. Fuck him. Police told him to back up and let them investigate. He didn't follow and now there's a dead teenager. We don't really know exactly what happened in the time between Zimmerman following the teen and the death, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would have to murder a child to defend myself. Another piece of shot walks free. Him and Casey Anthony are, IMO, murderers. Nothing will convince me otherwise at this point.

It's good to know that you're allergic to facts.

 

[Little Wing]

not sure where but i started this whole thing saying trayvon could have called the cops, went on to say he'd be alive if he'd said to zimmerman i called the police and told them you're following me. but it all goes back to what actually happened and zimmerman forced the chain of events by pursuing the kid himself with a loaded gun instead of letting the police who were on their way handle it. the boy had every right to be there. according to a police report, there was "no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter." his dad was there visiting his fiancee who lives there. zimmerman is a violent man and he had an agenda that night. the kid was walking back to where his dad was after buying candy.

 

[Little Wing]

Seems if he was worried about that he should have ran home, or used his cell phone to call the cops. not attack the guy following him. Do you want your son confronting jeffrey dahmer if he was following him? shit woman, think this through.

do you want your kid stalked by a violent man with a loaded gun out to make sure the asshole doesn't get away this time? you think zimmerman's actions were kosher?

 

[Little Wing]

So should your kid turn around and confront the potential ass raper? is that what you want your kid to do? if travon martin wanted to outrun zimmerman he could have. the kid runs home, and goes inside, zimmerman follows him sees this, then realizes he made a mistake, feels foolish, and learns a lesson on profiling. crisis avoided.

I do not believe from anything i've seen that says zimmerman was "out to get some action"

i think he wanted action based on him saying on 911 call that "these assholes they always get away" and he kept following the kid when told we don't need you to do that. jeremy lauer also can be heard on 911 call saying "he warned me he'd shoot him"

 

[Little Wing]

Zimmerman is a piece of shit wannabe cop. Fuck him. Police told him to back up and let them investigate. He didn't follow and now there's a dead teenager. We don't really know exactly what happened in the time between Zimmerman following the teen and the death, but I can't imagine a scenario where I would have to murder a child to defend myself. Another piece of shot walks free. Him and Casey Anthony are, IMO, murderers. Nothing will convince me otherwise at this point.

you forgot child molester

Listen to segments of the chilling testimony here: Part 1 and Part 2.

and rapist

One of Zimmerman's ex-fiancee's also testified that he repeatedly sexually assaulted her. Read more on the full story here.

George Zimmerman Verdict, NOT GUILTY: Child Molestation Accusations Arise during Trayvon Martin Murder Trial, Brutal Sexual Assault Charges 'Not Relevant' to Case [TESTIMONY/LISTEN] : Offbeat News : Mstarz

 

[bio-chem]

do you want your kid stalked by a violent man with a loaded gun out to make sure the asshole doesn't get away this time? you think zimmerman's actions were kosher?

I've seen no evidence that zimmerman had violence as his desire that night, or was just out for some action. Everyone of us has used terms like "ass hole" and "not get away" without violence in our hearts. If my kid is being stalked by someone, I want him to use the cell phone to call the cops, or as he certainly could have easily done, ran home to me so I can confront the stalker myself. Under no circumstances (especially knowing there are Jeffrey dahmer types out there) do I want my kid confronting someone following him.

Given all the evidence I've seen, which is not inconsiderable, but certainly not the entire trial, I believe travon instigated the physical altercation that led to his death. a tragedy, but not a crime in zimmerman's part. zimmerman could have done things differently, but he broke no law, and truth be told if he was my neighbor, he did exactly as i'd have wanted him to. followed a person who was not a resident while telling the police he sees a suspicious person.

 

[bio-chem]

i think he wanted action based on him saying on 911 call that "these assholes they always get away" and he kept following the kid when told we don't need you to do that. jeremy lauer also can be heard on 911 call saying "he warned me he'd shoot him"

Do you believe that zimmerman caught up to Martin, and started the altercation, or do you believe Martin attacked the guy following him? I personally have seen nothing by way of evidence that shows zimmerman did, or even could have caught Martin to start the physical altercation.

 

[bio-chem]

you forgot child molester

Listen to segments of the chilling testimony here: Part 1 and Part 2.

and rapist

One of Zimmerman's ex-fiancee's also testified that he repeatedly sexually assaulted her. Read more on the full story here.

George Zimmerman Verdict, NOT GUILTY: Child Molestation Accusations Arise during Trayvon Martin Murder Trial, Brutal Sexual Assault Charges 'Not Relevant' to Case [TESTIMONY/LISTEN] : Offbeat News : Mstarz

DOMS has already addressed both of these showing why they aren't an issue.

 

[cornedbeefhash]

I've seen no evidence that zimmerman had violence as his desire that night, or was just out for some action. Everyone of us has used terms like "ass hole" and "not get away" without violence in our hearts. If my kid is being stalked by someone, I want him to use the cell phone to call the cops, or as he certainly could have easily done, ran home to me so I can confront the stalker myself. Under no circumstances (especially knowing there are Jeffrey dahmer types out there) do I want my kid confronting someone following him.

Given all the evidence I've seen, which is not inconsiderable, but certainly not the entire trial, I believe travon instigated the physical altercation that led to his death. a tragedy, but not a crime in zimmerman's part. zimmerman could have done things differently, but he broke no law, and truth be told if he was my neighbor, he did exactly as i'd have wanted him to. followed a person who was not a resident while telling the police he sees a suspicious person.

What made him suspicious? The black skin or the hoodie? That's ridiculous. He's a kid.

 

[DOMS]

not sure where but i started this whole thing saying trayvon could have called the cops, went on to say he'd be alive if he'd said to zimmerman i called the police and told them you're following me. but it all goes back to what actually happened and zimmerman forced the chain of events by pursuing the kid himself with a loaded gun instead of letting the police who were on their way handle it. the boy had every right to be there. according to a police report, there was "no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter." his dad was there visiting his fiancee who lives there. zimmerman is a violent man and he had an agenda that night. the kid was walking back to where his dad was after buying candy.

In other words, a stranger was walking through a gated community and George wanted to make sure he wasn't up to anything criminal by watch him from afar. At that point, there was no confrontation until Martin turned on George.

Two people made decisions that lead to the death of one of them. I don't think that either made any outright bad decisions. It makes sense to follow someone that you haven't seen before walking through you gated community in a city that's known for a higher than average amount of crime. It also makes sense (but is not safe) to confront someone that's following you. Trying to hit the guy doesn't make that much sense, but I get where Trayvon was coming from. Once Trayvon attacked George, it was George's right to defend himself.

Neither was particularly wrong, but the sum total of their choices led to a death.

 

[bio-chem]

What made him suspicious? The black skin or the hoodie? That's ridiculous. He's a kid.

Neither the skin color, nor the hoodie. I'm going to go with an unfamiliar person in my gated community, as what made him suspicious. If there had been some robberies in my neighborhood, and I, or one of my neighbors spotted an unfamiliar person, I would do, and want my neighbors to do exactly what zimmerman did. Follow the person and call the cops. This isn't about race, and people who make it about race are twisting it to their own personal agendas. to those people I say fuck off, and go to bed