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Half of fast food workers need public aid
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aren't the pew people art thieves?
my cousin worked for cps in kansas. anyone under the roof has their income counted if there's any type of assistance. doesn't matter if they are married or just met.
as I stated before Marx called all this stuff over 150 years ago. but many people truly don't understand the long term effects of current economic trends such as falling median wages. as time progresses and more high wage jobs are lost the median will continue to fall.
The point I was trying to make is people not getting married so they can continue to recieve government assistance is trashy. But it great to know that government assistance is considered as income so that the trash I speak off will be a eligable for better loans and such.
that anyone thinks they have found some magic responsible target for their ire is laughable. the facts do not support that it's the welfare recipient or low wage earner causing your misery or screwing the taxpayer so to speak. total math fail.
Maybe post a link besides hear say from your cousin?
let me know when you find the new trendy thing to bitch about because this one has been exhausted. people keep parroting the same old tired crap without even thinking about the actual numbers.
it's a fact look it up. not that i think even looking it up and reading it for themselves will stop anyone mindlessly saying the rosary of this new prayer. blame the poor blame the poor blame the poor....
As originally stated just one example. Total math fail any statics to back that up, or is this more hear say from your cousin in Kansas.
the so called trash you speak of might be pilfering a few grains of rice from your larder while the real crooks cut out your liver. i find it very hard to believe people who cannot spell receive and eligible are paying as much taxes as they are loudly moaning about.... i think people are just chanting the words to this years political pop hit without having ANY real clue what's going on under their noses.
the whole internet backs it up if you just care enough to do your own research. no one should have to tell you Obama won popular votes too etc.
Your infinite wisdom is truly amazing. Hows the BF from canada, at work I hope.
That reminds me of this I read somewhere:
A corporate executive, an engineer and a bus driver are in a conference room talking about business. A secretary brings in a dozen chocolate chip cookies. The executive immediately grabs eleven of them. He then leans over and whispers to the engineer "That fucking bus driver is trying to steal your cookie."
the system is designed to provide needs for the children, not necessarily for the parents. single mothers receive free healthcare via medicaid until the eldest child reaches 18 which makes perfect sense if you think about it. a healthy parent is more able to raise children then an unhealthy one.
all of these programs are based off historical economic data and social trends dating back many hundreds of years across many different country's. the US system is based off the "British Poor Laws" which started back in the 1600's under Queen Elizabeth I.
some people just aren't happy unless they are miserable. 
Denmark Is Considered The Happiest Country. You'll Never Guess Why.
maybe they just don't go out of their way to suck lemons.
Denmark Is Considered The Happiest Country. You'll Never Guess Why.
maybe they just don't go out of their way to suck lemons.
yes which i do agree with, my issue is from what I have seen first hand with allot of welfare families first hand. As a recruiter i went into ALLOT of low income welfare families homes to speak with the kids parents about the Navy. Every hosehold owned a big screen LCD TV, with a PS3. Parents would have a new iphone, expensive designer clothes and ect.
I walked into one home where there was NO room to sit because the entire home was filled with trash because the stay at home mom refused to do house work. It was disgusting yet, she drove a new trailblazer and i could never get a hold of her because she was all ways at the casino drinking. The sad part was this was ALLOT of them. Most of the kids that I put in didnt want to go because they felt they had to take care of their younger ones. Or would end up joining gangs to get money because their parents spent it all on them selves.
This is what life has taught me, if someone has ZERO responsibility of money. You do not give them cash. Food stamps were great, they should get clothing money from wall-mart. A credit card only good for clothing from wall-mart or KMART some budget store. The cards would be prepaid for x amount of childrens clothes and adult clothes so the parents HAD to buy clothes for their kids and no them selves.
The problem I have with welfare is there is NO system to help them get out of it. There needs to be a mandatory finance class, job training and ect. The current welfare program enables people to stay on it.
As Americans we need programs for the kids. More outside programs to keep these kids focused on school and ect. I have talked about it allot but the freewheelproject the my friend runs. This next year is sponsoring kids in continuation school, with a goal of getting them back into traditional school. They are paying for college tutors, BMX Equipment, Bikes, Transportation, and Race Fees. Two days a week they will get tutored for two hours, other two days is on the BMX track training, Then Sat is race day.
You lose your sponsor if your grades drop or dont attend school. They fund all school supplies also. This is out of my buddies pocket to with some assistance from local community sponsors. This is the money we need to spend, where the money is going to now is a pile of dog shit and no accountability. The system now creates laziness and unaccountable people. It does not put people into a position to better their lives.
sure there is. cash benefits are limited to the LIFETIME PAYOUT of 60 months per the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. and SNAP benefits decrease when each child reaches the age of 18.
how can you be so anti welfare spending and not know all these expensive programs exist? that every state gets a shit ton of funding to run these programs to get people "from welfare to work"
maine has aspire... parents as scholars... every state has them. i'm not sure how you can think there's no system to get them off assistance.
a livable wage isn't actually a system but it'd do.
maine has aspire... parents as scholars... every state has them. i'm not sure how you can think there's no system to get them off assistance.
a livable wage isn't actually a system but it'd do.
I agree the system was designed with good intentions but many not ALL take advantage of it. Example #2.... My wifes uncle has been on disability most of his adult life. He can still do the things he enjoys such as hunt, fish, play basketball, but has been too disabled to work for the past 20 years really. I know two others who do this also and actually boast of this. In my opinion this is trash.
I think he was referring to the parents. Even if they loose benifits from the children we still continue to support the parent who raised five children out of wedlock long after the children are gone. Of those five children raised by this parent that abused every government assistance program possible, I'm sure all five of those children grow up to be productive members of society. LOL
Census Bureau: Means-Tested Gov't Benefit Recipients Outnumber Full-Time Year-Round Workers
http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/t...tested-govt-benefit-recipients-outnumber-full
http://m.cnsnews.com/news/article/t...tested-govt-benefit-recipients-outnumber-full
once the children are adults there are no more benefits for the parents, what about that don't you people get. the only adults that receive any benefits from the government are on disability or are elderly. that's the way the system works, it's written into the laws and is clearly written and stated on all of the applications on the respective websites and if you've ever known anyone that receives these benefits they would tell you the same.
it's like miss-sung lyrics.... then you tell people the right words to the song but they keep singing it their way... it's gotten just pointless to try and inform the willfully misinformed.
Thanks for setting me straight. Note to self... all people recieving governement assistance are disabled or elderly, their is no taking advantage of the system happening as we speak. What about that don't you people get.... I say to self. Once again thanks for setting me straight LAM. LOL
actually i have posted the figures for welfare abuse. it's 1.3 percent.
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Lam,
The only adults that receive any benefits from the government are *NOT* on disability or are elderly.
Single people that are not on disability or elderly can apply for section 8 housing vouchers under a 'family' classification.
Same with SNAP.
A household made up of 1 adult that is not on disability or elderly can apply for SNAP.
Eligibility
Income:
Households have to meet income tests unless all members are receiving TANF, SSI, or in some places general assistance. Most households must meet both the gross and net income tests, but a household with an elderly person or a person who is receiving certain types of disability payments only has to meet the net income test. Households, except those noted, that have income over the amounts listed below cannot get SNAP benefits.
(Oct. 1, 2013 through Sept. 30, 2014)
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(100 percent of poverty) [/TH]
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[/TD][TD="class: BodyTextBlack, width: 25%, bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: center"] $1,245[/TD]
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As to section 8 same thing.
1 adult under section 8 requirements is classified as a 'family' and does not have to be on disability or elderly to apply for section 8 housing vouchers.
"A family is either a single person or a group of persons"
http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/documents/huddoc?id=DOC_11749.pdf
CHAPTER 5
ELIGIBILITY AND DENIAL OF ASSISTANCE
5.1 CHAPTER OVERVIEW
This chapter outlines HUD's requirements for participation in the housing choice voucher
program and provides guidance to PHAs in establishing additional criteria. The PHA should
strive for objectivity and consistency when applying these criteria to evaluate the eligibility of
families who apply for assistance. PHAs must provide families applying for assistance the
opportunity to explain their circumstances, furnish additional information if required, and receive
an explanation from the PHA of the basis for any decision regarding their eligibility.
5.2 ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
There are four factors which affect eligibility:
? Family definition. Only applicants who meet a PHA's definition of family are eligible.
? Income limits. The household's annual income may not exceed the applicable income limit as
established by HUD.
? Citizenship status. The applicant must meet the documentation requirements of citizenship
or eligible immigration status.
? Eviction for drug-related criminal activity. Persons evicted from public housing or any
Section 8 program for drug-related criminal activity are ineligible for assistance for at least
three years from the date of the eviction.
The PHA's administrative plan must contain procedures for determining eligibility and denial of
assistance.
Definition of Family
Program Requirements
Each applicant for assistance under the housing choice voucher program must meet the PHA's
definition of family. Within guidelines provided by HUD, a PHA has discretion in its definition
of what constitutes a family.
A family is either a single person or a group of persons and includes:
? A household with or without children. A child who is temporarily away from home due to
placement in foster care should be considered a member of the family.
i wonder if these regulations are drawn up like that so companies like walmart and mcdonalds can get away with paying workers welfare eligible wages.
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