Has anyone ever gotten cut by weighlifting and good diet ONLY?? (no cardio)

[juggernaut2005]

Strictly lifting and good diet??

I'm talking 45-60mins of intense weight lifting x 4days/week with excellent diet and maybe a fat burner?? (but no roids etc)

anyone??

Thanks!

 

[Nate K]

Yeah, it's all about metabolism.

 

[juggernaut2005]

Please elaborate young sir

 

[Tom_B]

Yes it's possible, it's very possible.
I know this is a stupid way to train, so don't rant on me for it, but I decided to experiment with my body and weight train 6x a week, no cardio, all the while eating slightly above maintenance and incorporating a refeed once every week. I managed to maintain my weight and drop a significant amount of bodyfat all within 6 weeks.
I'm now trying the same routine, except trying refeeds every 3rd day for another experiment..

 

[KelJu]

Yes, I have done it. But your diet has to be clean as hell, plus you can never cheat and you weight training better be spot on. This is all of coarse for my, but maybe you won't have as tough of a time as me. I'm and endomorph, so putting on mass is easy, but keeping my belly flat is tough.

 

[slip]

Yep. I have done it. Dont go too heavy on the weights (risk of injury). Was at my leanest in years by doing it.

 

[Arnold]

absolutely, cardio definitely helps but it's not necessary.

 

[assassin]

if you are eating below your maintanance you'll lose weight by watching the tv and sleeping all day, cardio just makes you increase your maintanance and your fat burning efficiency.

 

[juggernaut]

follow the anabolic diet; i did and it worked for me. But majority speaking, you'll probably not see any abs until you start incorporating both diet and cardio. Problem with that is usually strength goes down when you try to lower bodyfat.

 

[Dynghetti]

absolutely, cardio definitely helps but it's not necessary.

wow thats koo

 

[juggernaut2005]

Thanks for the response guys!

 

[r0dxx]

Haven't done cardio at all, and I got down to where I am now (7.5%)

 

[edubz]

I have to say there is alot to do with this..

I think age, and other factors come into play...

when I was 18-21, I could eat pure crap fast food, work out 3 days a week, and still have no gut, and be nice.

now, at 28 cardio helps out.

 

[ShapeUP]

follow the anabolic diet; i did and it worked for me. But majority speaking, you'll probably not see any abs until you start incorporating both diet and cardio. Problem with that is usually strength goes down when you try to lower bodyfat.

? I've not experienced this. I do alot of cardio, weight is down, muscle is up, and I'm stronger than I was 4 months ago.

Bodyfat has nothing to do with strength.

Just curious, is the anabolic diet low carb.

If so this explains loss in strength. JW>

 

[juggernaut]

anabolic diet gets by with 50g of carbs a day (higher fats and protein), with a refeed of spanning at least 24 hours of high-ass carb intake with medium protein and close to no fats, except for EFAs.

Also, when you go low carb, it doesnt necessarily mean you lose strength. You lose glycogen in your muscle stores temporarily, but they are rebuilt after every refeed. My example is that my quads are done on the day of my 1 day refeed. I have been gaining so much strength in my legs alone lately, the last time I did leg presses, I plowed through 7 reps with 1000 lbs. I dont think I'm missing out on any type of strength loss.

Lastly, when you lose bf, the majority of the time there will be some type of strength loss, but usually it does come back to you when you start on a regular diet again. This is also the case when I am back in the gym after my contest. Gains go through the roof after my body has been depleted for so long.

 

[ShapeUP]

anabolic diet gets by with 50g of carbs a day (higher fats and protein), with a refeed of spanning at least 24 hours of high-ass carb intake with medium protein and close to no fats, except for EFAs.

Also, when you go low carb, it doesnt necessarily mean you lose strength. You lose glycogen in your muscle stores temporarily, but they are rebuilt after every refeed. My example is that my quads are done on the day of my 1 day refeed. I have been gaining so much strength in my legs alone lately, the last time I did leg presses, I plowed through 7 reps with 1000 lbs. I dont think I'm missing out on any type of strength loss.

Lastly, when you lose bf, the majority of the time there will be some type of strength loss, but usually it does come back to you when you start on a regular diet again. This is also the case when I am back in the gym after my contest. Gains go through the roof after my body has been depleted for so long.

Losing BF has not given me a loss in strength.

I too refeed myself, but I still average a high deficit, no loss in strength. I cycle almost all my macros. I think you'd be better off just eating the right amount of carbs every day. Still high calories and I bet your strength and pumps would even better.

 

[juggernaut]

Losing BF has not given me a loss in strength.

I too refeed myself, but I still average a high deficit, no loss in strength. I cycle almost all my macros. I think you'd be better off just eating the right amount of carbs every day. Still high calories and I bet your strength and pumps would even better.

I tried that, but the lbs continued to creep on. I have found that either the anab diet or carb cycling work well for me. I have had no problems with strength gains and/pumps-this is what works for me.

 

[tucker01]

I tried that, but the lbs continued to creep on. I have found that either the anab diet or carb cycling work well for me. I have had no problems with strength gains and/pumps-this is what works for me.

Exactly different strokes for different folks.

If we were all the same, then we would have this diet thing mastered a long time ago.

 

[ShapeUP]

I tried that, but the lbs continued to creep on. I have found that either the anab diet or carb cycling work well for me. I have had no problems with strength gains and/pumps-this is what works for me.

I understand that for sure man, I tried some low carb diets before and just crashed on energy, so we are all different.

I am curious though, have you ever found what you calorie burn is like, maybe even your BMR so you can estimate with workouts?

And when you were gaining weight was the amount of your surplus/deficit the SAME as it has been since you are cycling carbs.

When you eat 50g carbs is your total calories the same as when you eat a high carb day...?

 

[juggernaut]

I understand that for sure man, I tried some low carb diets before and just crashed on energy, so we are all different.

I am curious though, have you ever found what you calorie burn is like, maybe even your BMR so you can estimate with workouts?

And when you were gaining weight was the amount of your surplus/deficit the SAME as it has been since you are cycling carbs.

When you eat 50g carbs is your total calories the same as when you eat a high carb day...?

I dont count calories; never have. It's just not soemthing I want to do. When I'm in maintenance, I usually do carb cycling. Ordinarily, my weight will go up only 1-2 lbs every 2 weeks or so. I go by a monthly photo that my wife takes of front and back and go by that also.
During precontest, calories dont mean anything either. I go by my 50g a day with 1.5g of protein and about 60g of fats with a refeed on Saturday.

On dieting, I drop a lb to 1.5 a week, no more. It's all in tweaking what you have.

My body does very well on low carbs-I dont get as gassy and feel like I have an endless supply of positive energy.

 

[Nicky Carts]

juggernaut - im assuming that if i were to try this diet that you do that i would have to cut out drinking on the weekends?

 

[juggernaut]

juggernaut - im assuming that if i were to try this diet that you do that i would have to cut out drinking on the weekends?

you can do A beer or two. The alcohol is the empty calorie problem. Within reason, I dont think it will hurt-just dont get shitfaced.

 

[fufu]

I never do cardio specifically and I have no trouble losing weight if I wish too. I think it is over rated. As long as your diet is in order, you don't really need. Now getting below 8-6% may require it, but I don't know. It would probably help but I don't think you would neeed it.

 

[juggernaut]

I never do cardio specifically and I have no trouble losing weight if I wish too. I think it is over rated. As long as your diet is in order, you don't really need. Now getting below 8-6% may require it, but I don't know. It would probably help but I don't think you would neeed it.

I need cardio if I'm trying to gain as well. I have problem keeping it on, and gaining; however, losing is another sort of beast.

 

[juggernaut2005]

This friday I'm gonna do some drinking No beers, just hard liquor.. I'm thinking a few shots of vodka (straight up) or maybe rum, shouldn't hinder my progress much!! Right?

 

[musclepump]

For all my contest I do the majority of my fat loss without any cardio at all

 

[slip]

link to anabolic diet? sounds interesting

 

[juggernaut]

google
it's really simple-I told you what to do above.

 

[ShapeUP]

I have the complete e-book, if you want it, pm me.

 

[ShapeUP]

For all my contest I do the majority of my fat loss without any cardio at all

I think it's important for people to understand that. I am now lessening my cardio upping my strength training and still losing. bottom line is calories burned and calories taken in . But you can't just cut cals obviously you have to UP your output.

I still think for people just getting started that cardio should be a major staple in losing weight, however under 15 percent it seems to lose alot of effect, I mean i had to do more and more to get the same burn, and once I had the stamina to lift hard for an hour that became much more effective.