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Have you ever dated an unattractive woman ?

damn...what a bad way to start a new page!! lol
 
Don't give me that look!!
 
Originally posted by jeb
I love you too. j/k
daaamnn Sapphire you don't have to be that agressive! well I don't want be a lier but I do look good for one person and that is my girlfriend that I'm with right now, she's the best person I have ever met and I have ever been with. we have been together for 5 long years I'm 27. now that we finished our careers is time to take the "big step" I have never cheated on her and never will, when I said that I have fucked ugly girls that was back then when I was a stupid little kid or teenager or what ever you want to call it, I'm just explaining to you so you understand that "we" the men we are not all the same.>>> I just want to say thank you for replying. did somebody did something bad to you, why? because the way you react to a simple answer. (offensive) I respect.
:)
No nobody has ever done anything bad to me... I just thought you were crude and sorta mean. I felt bad for the girls you f*cked and thought were ugly. I am sorry if I sounded aggressive to you. :)
 
Originally posted by Sapphire
OD

I have to tell you I have goosebumps right now after reading this post of yours. What a sensitive, intelligent, GOOD person you are! I wish we lived in a world full of people like YOU who appreciate that good looks are not only relative BUT very fleeting.

Your wife is very blessed, as are you, I am sure.

Thank you for this post, you are an amazing man.

I hope you and your wife have a son... what a great role model you would be. :thumb:

Sapphire - those are probably the kindest words anyone has ever told me. Thank you so much.
-OD
 
You are very welcome, I meant every word! :)

Cyndi
 
Originally posted by Sapphire
No nobody has ever done anything bad to me... I just thought you were crude and sorta mean. I felt bad for the girls you f*cked and thought were ugly. I am sorry if I sounded aggressive to you. :)

I'm sorry and I appoligize Cyndi if I offended you in any way, my respects straight to you. I like you, you seem like a very intelligent, attractive, and with personality person, you're cool.

take care.
;) James.
 
Originally posted by jeb
I'm sorry and I appoligize Cyndi if I offended you in any way, my respects straight to you. I like you, you seem like a very intelligent, attractive, and with personality person, you're cool.

take care.
;) James.


Thanks James.. I appreciate the apology and the compliments. ;) You're cool too! :thumb:

Cyndi
 
Jeeze, would you two go get a room and leave the rest of us to our bickering. :rolleyes:
 
I'm not quite certain which is worse, the people who say they'd never waste time with a physically ugly woman, or the ones who are full of smug pride that they have Offered The Homely Sympathy Dates. How, er, big of you. Do you get public service awards for that?

Who is judging "ugly" here? Is there only one standard? Do you all go to your friends on contemplating a date, and get an opinion to check? Do you compare your candidates to your favourite magazine vixen? "I think her mouth is prettier than Monica Brant's - add one, but her ass is flabbier - subtract three. What's the total? Acceptable material?"

I've never dated a person who was unattractive to ME. Why would I? But attractiveness is a synergy of personality, intelligence, physical characteristics (not necessarily conventional "beauty" either), and sure, even smell.
 
^ Good point. :thumb: excellent post.
 
Originally posted by gr81
my Penis does not have Xray vision! ha ha

I have to appologize for calling you a woman - I'm sorry, I should have read more before posting anything...:rolleyes: :shrug:
 
hahaha Gr81!
Now i know why you are called that!
"my Penis does not have Xray vision!"
thats just the funniest shiat ive ever heard

"i dont care who you are, thats funny!"
 
Originally posted by Vieope
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:funny:
Vieope i swear you always have just....you always post the right thing to make it perfect
 
Originally posted by Akateros
I'm not quite certain which is worse, the people who say they'd never waste time with a physically ugly woman, or the ones who are full of smug pride that they have Offered The Homely Sympathy Dates. How, er, big of you. Do you get public service awards for that?

Who is judging "ugly" here? Is there only one standard? Do you all go to your friends on contemplating a date, and get an opinion to check? Do you compare your candidates to your favourite magazine vixen? "I think her mouth is prettier than Monica Brant's - add one, but her ass is flabbier - subtract three. What's the total? Acceptable material?"

I've never dated a person who was unattractive to ME. Why would I? But attractiveness is a synergy of personality, intelligence, physical characteristics (not necessarily conventional "beauty" either), and sure, even smell.

Akateros, who here are you judging to be full of "smug" pride and what standard are you using? What attracted you to this discussion thread? Or are you just speaking rhetorically to make a point? What is your point?

To attempt to answer your question I would say, for most, standards change based on how they feel at a moment in their life, what they think is in it for them and how comfortable they would feel being associated with a particular person in public and with their friends. Like your own definition though and what ever it was that attracted you to this thread, it is a clearly a personal decision that may or may not relate to what others hold important. There are certainly people who look only at the physical just as certainly as there are those that look at the larger context. There are others that just love to befriend the dejected and lonly. Some would call the differences in standards a function of maturity and others would judge anything not like their own to be contemptable and others would just hold thier opinions quietly to themselves.

But I am puzzled by one of your statements. Given your definition of attractiveness would you not think it "smug" to not date a person who was not attractive to you? I mean, how else are you going to get to know if a person is intelligent, or has a wonderful personality if you don't give them a chance to get to check you out too on a date (really a bi-directional interview)? The beauty of relationships is that there is a synergy that exists in the relationship. Couples, in a good relationship end up adapting and improving for each other.

Maybe your point was that attractiveness is a two way street. But then why pre-judge a person and not give a guy a chance to date you? Even the smug have the capacity to reciprocate affection and attention when reflecting in the eyes of their opposites.

Maybe I helped answer some of your questions.

OD
 
Originally posted by OceanDude
One single time I went out of my way in my early days to be friendly to a very heavy woman who was by all contemporary standards "ugly". She was a school teacher with a heart of gold who helped poor black children with no fathers feel better about themselves and taught them basic skills. Like every other human she just wanted to be liked and appreciated. During our date, It was humanly difficult to share her emotional pain when we walked the French Quarter in New Orleans where I (and she) could hear the cruel sneers and insults from the drunk slobs partying in the streets. That one date made me understand the pain she had to suffer every day of her life from lesser individuals who felt they needed to put her down to make themselves feel important or superior. I like to think she also gained from the experience and that I helped reasure her and improve her self confidence. In fact, as I was leaving for the night she asked me 'do you think I am a good person'. I simpy said "of course why would you think differently". I had to hold back tears as I walked back to my apartment.

Now, years later in life I look back at all the opportunites I had to date or be friendly to other "average" or less attractively looking woman. And although I am now happly married to an attractive and intelligent woman (10 years this month) I still quietly regret not taking the time to have sought out these women during the intervening periods of lonliness and solidtude before I met my wife. Before then I was emersed and escaped into my career and worked many long hours - no time for women. I feel that I wasted probably 15 years of my life and did not share it with anyone to any degree beyond superficial relationships. Today, I continue to notice or meet a number of amazing young woman who are by all measures "average" in looks but amazingly gifted in intellect, social skills, compassion and descency. Such as these don't quite "fit in" by today's measure of beauty; but I never peronally followed the standards of pop-culture anyway. I now personally find women with the rare talent of being genuine and "innocent" of this world to be profoundly beautiful. If I could turn the clock back I would cherish and honor such as these as more precious than diamonds among large piles of coal.

Guys - if I could give you any advise - try to get to know some of these "average" or "plain jane" women. Treat them special and share your lives. It will enrichen you beyond all understanding. But don't be surprised if you end up falling for one - nor be offended if they reject your overtures as being too presumptious.

-OD

Best post I've read yet! Wish more people...not just men....would think this way.
:clap: :hello:
 
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