• Hello, this board in now turned off and no new posting.
    Please REGISTER at Anabolic Steroid Forums, and become a member of our NEW community!
  • Check Out IronMag Labs® KSM-66 Max - Recovery and Anabolic Growth Complex

Help me get my life back

jmorrison

Registered
Joined
Mar 19, 2009
Messages
1,624
Reaction score
262
Points
0
Age
45
Location
Alabama
Hello all, my name is Mark and I need your help. This is going to be long, so bear with me.

A little backstory: I am a former soldier, and now work in the offshore oil industry. The gym has always been a part of my life, between wrestling for 9 years, powerlifting in high school, then being in the military, I have always been in pretty darn good shape, with my peak being about 8 years ago. I was at 196lbs, 9% bodyfat, 19 1/2 in neck, 56 in chest, 19 1/2 in arms and a 315 bench. Nothing phenomenal, but the girls liked it, and that was good enough for me! :)

Two and a half years ago I was injured at work. I broke my back, lost the use of my right arm, and between the sedentary lifestyle, the booze I was guzzling, and my general feelings of uselessness, I ballooned up to 265lbs, probably 35%+ bodyfat. After numerous surgeries, I can use my arm again, and for the last couple of months I have been attempting to get back into shape.

Last week my wife of 8 years, and mother of my 4 children left me. Although I take good care of them, and there is no fighting or abuse, she simply stated that she no longer loved me. She claims differently, but I know that it is my physical condition that has at least added to the problems. I don't look like I used to, I am not attractive like I used to be, and I can't perform in the bedroom like I used to be able to. Now I want my life back, and my body back, and whether I am with her or not, I want to be attractive again.

The problem is, although years ago I was pretty knowledgeable on workouts and supplements, things have changed drastically in the last 8 years. When I was lifting, EAS was the best company out there, Andro was the greatest thing ever, and the ABCD diet was the bomb.

After reading over your forums for the last month or so, I don't think my "facts" are quite factual any more.

Ok, sob story aside, here is what I am doing, and what my lifestyle is like:

I work 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. During the 2 weeks at work, I have access to a decent gym with cardio machines, dumbells, and machines. (no barbell freeweights:( ) We have a catering crew that takes care of my dietary requirements. I can have all the fish/chicken/tuna/cottage cheese I can stand.

I did not go overboard on supplements, but I am taking creatine, hydroxycut, whey protein, a multivitamin, omega 3 and 6 oils, and MRP Myoplex. I am taking 205g of protein per day, which is my target weight. My caloric intake is around 1500-2000 per day.

I get up in the morning at 4:30 and walk/run on the treadmill for 25mins at 150ish heart rate. I drink a MRP at this point since I have trouble stomaching food first thing in the morning anyway. I then eat a snack at 9am, yogurt or cottage cheese along with some whey. At lunch I eat baked chicken/fish and some veggies. At 3pm I eat some more yogurt/cottage cheese etc and some protein, and at 6 I lift weights for an hour. (I will describe my lifting program in a minute.) After words some chicken/fish and another myoplex with it.

My lifting program is as follows:
day1: Chest triceps, 4 excercises a piece, 3-4 sets per excercise of 8-12 reps.
day2: Back/Biceps, 4 excercises a piece, 3-4 sets per excercise of 8-12 reps.
day3: Off except for my morning cardio and abdominals after work
day4: Legs, push and pull
day5: Shoulders/neck
day6: Off except for timed pushups situps, 2 mins a piece.
day7: Circuit training, 3 excercises a piece for chest, triceps, back, biceps, legs, abs, 1 minute per excercise, 30 secs rest between excercises.
day1: rest, and start again next day.

I basically follow the old anabolic burst cycling diet where when I am home, I ingest a lot more calories, drop the cardio, and lift heavier. This is much easier for me because I can relax a bit more at home, and don't have to struggle with the willpower thing as much.

Using this program I have dropped to 245 in 1.5 months, and went from a 42 waist, to a around a 36, which are pretty darned good results I think for 1.5 months work!

The problem is that I feel very weak, and I look like I am losing muscle mass as well as fat. Should I change anything, or continue like I am doing, and just bulk again at 10%? Is my program workable, or broken? Is there anything I can do differently? Is anyone here a hitman that can bury my wife somewhere? (the last one was a joke...I think).

Thank you for reading this wall of text, and any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
jmorrison - welcome, and please read the link in my sig on getting started.
 
Hey man, welcome aboard! we're all here to help and support :) feel free to drop by any boards and ask any questions.
 
Here are the answers to the newbie homework post.


1. Define your short and long term physique goals. If you want to get cut AND get muscular, treat these as if they're mutually exclusive events and pick one. If you're significantly overfat, plan to cut first, then build muscle. If you're just a little soft, but not truly fat, start building first.

I am concentrating first on reaching 10-12% BF, at which point I will begin bulking. Short term I would like to reach 200lbs and 10%ish BF, long term I would like to maintain around 220lbs, 9-10%% BF muscular. This is the size I was in the Army, and was very pleased. Using the Fitday calculator, I will be able to reach 200lbs in about 6 months.



2.You will be asked "describe your diet" - what we mean is "how many calories, and how many grams of protein, carb and fat are you eating?".

I have only just began tracking this through fitday, and am not quite done with my day, so I have one more meal to go today, and an MRP to add to it, so I will continue to change this post to an average as I collect data. However, what I have eaten today is pretty standard to what I am eating on a daily basis out here. According to the Fitday calculator my daily maintenance calories are around 3437 per day, and I am currently eating around 1500-1800 calories per day. So far today with 1 more meal to go I am getting 39 grams of fat, 70 grams of carbs, and 175g of protein. I will change this as it averages out. Built, I am unsure how to figure out my maintenance caloric intake other than what Fitday is listing for me. Thank you for your response, and I will gladly answer any questions you have for me!

3. We will ask you if you are training now. Most who are overfat think they need to do a ton of cardio (you don't) and figure they'll hit the heavy weights once they've dropped the fat (bad idea).

Posted above, but reposted for clarity:

I get up in the morning at 4:30 and walk/run on the treadmill for 25mins at 150ish heart rate. I drink a MRP at this point since I have trouble stomaching food first thing in the morning anyway. I then eat a snack at 9am, yogurt or cottage cheese along with some whey. At lunch I eat baked chicken/fish and some veggies. At 3pm I eat some more yogurt/cottage cheese etc and some protein, and at 6 I lift weights for an hour. (I will describe my lifting program in a minute.) After words some chicken/fish and another myoplex with it.

Built, many of the excercises I do are on a machine with meaningless weights. Instead of a number of lbs or kgs it is listed as 1, 2, 3, etc. but I will list what I do daily. The only equipment I have access to is a treadmill, dumbell rack, flat workout bench, and a nautilus-type machine. So if any of my excercises are lacking, or should be replaced I would love any alternatives. I am not much of a fan of the weight machine! For the weights, I simply try to hit muscular failure by the last couple of reps on my last set. I am sorry for the lack of weights used, but they truly wouldn't make any sense to you guys. Also some of the names for the excersices are probably (surely) not correct, and are simply the only names I know them by. My workout is as follows:

Day1 Chest/Tri
Bench Press 4x12/10/8/6
Incl Dumbell Press 3x10
Butterflys 3x10
Cable X-overs 4x15/12/10/8
Overhead Press 3x10
Skull Crushers 3x10
Cable Pushdowns 4x15/12/10/8
Pushups To failure XXXX XXXX

Day2 Back/Bi
Dumbell Deadlift 4x12/10/8/6
Lat Pulls 4x12/10/8/6
Upright rows 3x10
Closed-grip pulls 3x10
Barbell Curls 3x10
Seated Conc curls 3x10
Hammer Curls 3x10
Cable curls 4x15/12/10/8
Abdominals To failure XXXX XXXX

Day3 OFF
XXXX Pushups/Dips To failure XXXX XXXX

Day4 Legs
Front grip barbell squat 4x12/10/8/6
Lunges 3x10
Extensions 4x12/10/8/6
Hamstrings 4x12/10/8/6
Calf raises 4x15/12/10/8

Day5 Shoulders
Barbell Cleans 3x10
Military Press 4x12/10/8/6
Upright Butterflies 3x10
Cable Shrugs 4x15/12/10/8
Side Raises 3x10
Front Raises 3x10
Abdominals To failure XXXX XXXX

Day6 OFF
XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXX

Day7 Circuit Incline/decline/cable 1/.30/1
Front squat/Lunges/Calf
Curls/Hammers/Cable
Overhead press/skulls/cable push
Military press/Stding Butterflies/Shrugs
Situps/Crunches/Leg raises

Rest 1day before beginning cycle again



I am 245lbs, 18in neck, 50in chest, 46in waist, 38in hips, 18in biceps, 26in thigh, 19in calf.

I think that is all the info I have! Any help you guys could give to tailor this a bit for me would be great.
 
Last edited:
Hi there.
Want to edit that post and list the GRAMS please? The percentages don't mean anything.

I'll come back when you have that edited in.

Oh, and please don't use the calculated estimate of your maintenance. The only way to know your maintenance is to track your intake and your weight and measure it.
 
Also, your workout - what exercises do you do, and what weight do you lift?
 
Hey, awesome! Thanks for doing that.

First up, your workouts - you're doing front squats on a machine?

What kind of machine is that?

I'll post about your diet while I let you respond to this.
 
Your diet.

Okay, you weigh 245 now (Nice work, by the way!) and when you weighed 196 you were at 9% bodyfat, so at that time you carried about 180 lbs of lean mass. Let's pretend that's how much lean mass you have now - so try to get in at least 90g of fat and at least 180g protein, I'd argue 270g (1.5g per pound imaginary lean mass) while you're dieting would be a better idea.

Most people's maintenance is around 13 to 15 times their bodyweight, lower if you're quite overweight, higher if you're relatively lean. At the low end, that would put your maintenance at around 3000 calories a day, ballparkish, possibly higher by a few hundred. Your current cutting calories are too low under your current paradigm. You COULD do a protein sparing modifed fast if you like, to blast off 20-30 lbs within a few months before resuming "ordinary" dieting, if you like, but you'll need to reduce your training dramatically during this period if you want to go this route.

If you're going to do this with "ordinary" dieting, that is to say, a modest deficit and a reasonable amount of training, I'd suggest going with something like 270g protein, 90g fat, whatever carbs you can "afford" and perhaps try your calories at around 2500, say 270g protein, 90g fat and 150g carb, with starchy carbs before and after you train and protein and fat with fibrous veggies for all the other meals.

I appreciate you are doing your best with the equipment you have. You already know how to train, so you'll be fine until you can get to a "real" gym. I would suggest you drop your rep range down a bit, you're dieting, you don't have the recovery you do when you're eating at or above maintenance.

Are there ANY free weights in that gym? When will you be able to get to an actual gym?
 
Muscle Gelz Transdermals
IronMag Labs Prohormones
The front squat, (don't laugh) is with me holding a heavy dumbell in front of my chest and squatting. Not even close to optimal, but the machine we have has NO leg excercises other than extensions/hammy curls. The only free weights we have are dumbells, and I try to use them as much as possible. It may just be my rather old school weight training mentality, but I have a deep seated revulsion for machines:P

I will not get back to a regular gym until I am home. This work schedule is 14/14, and is permanent. Should I put my rep range more in the 5-10 range rather than the 8-12 I am doing? Also, should I be doing 4 excercises per muscle group, or 3? This has me a bit confused. I am not having trouble maintaining intensity through the first 3, but to be honest, by the 4th I am half-assing it simply because I am exhausted.

As far as diet, I could really use some advice here. I am using the old Anabolic Burst Cycling diet because it fits my work schedule, and I got good results with it in the past, but I have no idea if the science behind the diet is considered legit anymore.

Basically it is 2 weeks of low caloric intake with cardio and low rest sets, followed by 2 weeks of high caloric intake with no cardio and bulk lifting.

The theory behind this (I think the guy who started it was named Torken Akerfelt or some-such) is that by changing the eating routine every 2 weeks, the body cannot adapt, and testosterone levels remain high along with metabolism. No idea if this is science fact or fiction though, all I know is that it worked for me once!

***edit*** I just looked it up and I butchered his name, but here is an old article on the diet.
  Anabolic Burst Cycling of Diet & Exercise (ABCDE)

Following this diet allows me to be more laid back at home with my diet, and enjoy myself more.

I cannot express how grateful I am for the time you are spending with me here. I really want to get back to a better and healthier time in my life, both physically and mentally.
 
Last edited:
There are worse ideas than this, to be sure. I'd go a little higher protein and considerably higher fat (pay with carbs) for the low weeks, then switch that out when you go to the "bulk" weeks.

The squat you're doing is called a goblet squat, and they're really awesome. I use them to teach people proper squat form.

Is there a barbell in the room?

Re how to train - I'd think "movement patterns" rather than "bodyparts".

Read some stuff here for more on this: Got Built? » Open Source Fitness - Get started here

I'm not saying you must do this particular workout, but read "baby got back" for some ideas on movement patterns and rep ranges.

I'm a big fan of dumbbell work.

Pleasure chatting. :)
 
Negative on the barbell. Our rig manager thinks that freeweights are scary, and that he will end up with hurt men out here. We may have him talked into a smith machine, but I think that is as far as he will go.

Thank you very much for your advice, and I will take it to heart. Although it really hurts me to think that I will have to eat more fat!:thumb:
 
Yeah, eating fat is SO unpleasant... butter, extra virgin olive oil, avocados. Ick. ;)
 
Back
Top