high cost cycle?

[Tribal]

I found some dbol, I'm not going to say where so don't worry. I can get 5mg or 10mg, it seems a bit high. I'm in Canada and this is just the first real source I found so I'll keep looking. Prices are as follows
5mg: $100 for 100tabs or $180 for 200tabs
10mg: $150 for 100tabs or $290 for 200tabs
this is in Canadian prices so I'm not sure but any advice will be good
What can I expect to pay for Test Cyp? I'll do an 8 week cycle so I'll need say 16-18 (2 extra incase I mess up once or twice)

 

[LAM]

is this your first cycle ? if so I would go with out the dbol...

 

[Flex]

you may find it cheaper somewhere else, but then again, you may not even find that other somewhere. since its your ONLY source, you may have to suck it up and just pay.

besides, you won't find it for THAT much cheaper...

 

[Tribal]

I hear the opposite from other people but I'll hear you out and go from there. Can you tell me the main reason why I should not use the dbol. I'll respect any answer and take it in to consideration. but I do want some HUGE size gains and somewhat fast to, I plan on doing it right and keeping them as wel, I know I'll loose lots of water but I feel that from what I have loked in to that this is going to be what will give me what I'm looking for....I hope.

 

[Flex]

bro, first of all, who DOESN'T want "huge size gains that come somewhat fast, and also being able to keep them".

with dbol you will notice the biggest, quickest gains, but you also experience the biggest, quickest losses.

personally, dbol is great. my 1st cycle was 4wks dbol, 8 sust. i put on 20+lbs in at the peak of my cycle. but like i said, dbol is mostly water, and you lose most, if not all that water weight.

if you want huge gains, whether juicing or not, you need to eat huge. size comes from upping your cals, not just the juice.

 

[Tribal]

I'm going to eat like it's going out of style, but healthy as much as I can. I know size wise I'll loose lots of water but will I not keep at least 5-6 pounds of lean mass? and with the test my size and strength will be at a high point with that alone. over all I think I can keep atleast 9-12 pounds after PCT, or close I hope

 

[Flex]

don't get me wrong, bro.

if your first cycle is an 8weeker of dbol and test, you could well put on 20+lbs, and keep at least 10.

i'm just trying to drive home the point that size comes from cals. you can take all the juice in the world, but without the cals it won't do anything......

 

[Mudge]

Yep test alone not even counting my calories (mistake) I put on 20 and kept about 17, put 65 pounds on my bench as well. For me it was a see food diet, if I wanted to eat, I ate, as long as I got my protein in first.

 

[Tribal]

any other tips I could use? like how slow to I inject, or will I know if it hurts to stop?

 

[Mudge]

Injections should not hurt, going into scar tissue can hurt a bit especially during the shooting. Until you use short esters that should not be a problem.

www.spotinjections.com

 

[Flex]

any other tips I could use? like how slow to I inject, or will I know if it hurts to stop?

well you don't wanna stab yourself haha. just go in nice and slow. make SURE you aspirate.

and if it hurts, you probably just hit a nerve. your body will convulse, then you will die. jk. they rarely ever hurt while injecting. if it does, you just hit a nerve. keep the needle as still as possible while injecting and you should be all set.

 

[Tribal]

what kind of prices can I expect for Test Cyp? the guy quoted me $65 each for 16 250mg vials. thats Canadian.....is that normal, I think that is kind of high don't you? maybe I'm just not that up to date on prices? help me out here please

 

[Mudge]

$65 "each" for 16 units of 250mg each? I am assuming you mean 16 amps, 250mg/ml (250mg per amp). Amps are usually pretty expensive, but 16ml of cypionate for $65 is not that bad, I've heard of far worse.

Thats $4 per ml, $40 for 10ml, actually thats pretty good if he is legit. Either you were juicing 10 years ago or what I dont know, but thats a good price. I've heard of people paying $300 for that VERY SAME AMOUNT and that is USD right here at the gym.

 

[JerseyDevil]

I think he meant $65 per amp. If so, then you are getting robbed.

 

[Tribal]

I'll copy and paste his price that the sent me

"I have 10 vials of Test cypionate left , 250 mg./ml 5 ml per vial.
QFS is the brand, amazing stuff, very reliable brand."

"For all 10 vials I can do $65 each. If you want 6-8 more I can get them fast and can drop the price to $62 per vial."

let me know because that does seem real high. thats like over$1100 CDN.

 

[Mudge]

Vials, not amps - $65 each is overpriced yes.

 

[JerseyDevil]

I'll copy and paste his price that the sent me

"I have 10 vials of Test cypionate left , 250 mg./ml 5 ml per vial.
QFS is the brand, amazing stuff, very reliable brand."

"For all 10 vials I can do $65 each. If you want 6-8 more I can get them fast and can drop the price to $62 per vial."

let me know because that does seem real high. thats like over$1100 CDN.

I don't know the CDN to US dollar conversion. BUT you're confused in how much you need. For a 8 week cycle at 500mg a week, you need a total of at least 4000mg (8 x 500). He is telling you each 5 ml vial of 250mg/ml, which is 1250mg, costs $65. Soooo.... you need 4 vials @ $65 a piece for $260. Still sounds high to me. In US dollars, the same amount of test enanthate runs around $95.

I would be a bit leary of this deal. 5ml vials seem a bit odd. 10ml and 20ml are the norm, and I have never heard of QFS.

 

[Mudge]

Ttokkyo put out sustanon in 5ml vials, I have seen them for $45 which I thought was a pretty bad price, but even worse than that - is prett stiff.

You pay those kind of prices in a gym.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

That seems very expensive for test, and the dbol. I would either keep looking for a better source there in canada, or you'll have to suck it up and spend the loot. If its a reliable source then it may be worth it to pay more then to try someone new.

 

[Supermans Daddy]

"For all 10 vials I can do $65 each. If you want 6-8 more I can get them fast and can drop the price to $62 per vial."

You ever heard tha term "get'n ganked" Peace n Love

 

[Tribal]

I dod not buy anything yet, I'll have to keep looking but I just wanted to ask first. thanks for the help

 

[Tribal]

I may be even more hard pressed to find a better local source. On the news today they did a spot on a good sized Steroid bust, over $100,000 in injections and tabs....it went on to say that it was all in milk jugs and they had vials and counterfit labels to make it look like actual RX steroids, it imported from China. They asked anyone to come forward who may have purchased any because they said it was improperly dosed and may cause serious harm and they wil not be in any trouble if they come in on their own. $100,000 sounds like alot to me!

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Thats some BS if I ever heard it....Tribal the police are going to throw the book at whoever steps forward. Buying steroids is the same crime as buying heroin. If the cops were really worried about your health they would have recommended people who have taken these drugs to go to the hospital...not admit to buying illegal drugs. Besides that most people that buy from that source wouldn't even know it was their source that was busted.

 

[deeno]

as a canadian, shits more relaxed here IMO

i can smoke a doobie on the side of the street, and if i get caught i'll be told to put it away and go home.....wait 10 mins for the cops to leave and blaze another one...you get caught with a couple 20-bags and they confiscate it and tell you to have a good nite...im not sure how it is in the states..

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Deeno I've always had a good time in Canada. I don't recall ever seeing police while visiting. Canada is a great country. It seems to be more free then the good ol' US of A

 

[Tribal]

in canada it's not against the law to have them in your possession, but it is to sell them. nothing will clear customs but you can't get in much shit at all if you get caught with them in small personal use only ammounts. they even said that on the news

 

[Pirate!]

nothing will clear customs

That is unfortunate, because you could shop at international pharmacies otherwise. I can get anything lighter than 5 lbs through customs in the U.S. They only do random searches unless the item is suspicious.

 

[deeno]

canadian customs are a bitch

i ordered some soccer jerseys offa ebay lil while ago...package was from thailand..they ripped open the package and tacked on some duty...i would think that every package coming from abroad will have some sort of check...whether it be visual or machine...who knows, my insight on the subject is limited

as an aside, there was a shop in vancouver that sold hemp items..needless to say they were openly selling marijuana under the table. I mean you could go there and ask for the stuff and u'd b handed a bag without any questions...i think the guys were marijuana activists...this went on for like 5 months and finally after some political pressure the police raided the place and shut it down...the cops, policiticians, everyone knew...i know its not relevant to anabolics but its interesting...