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I have never gotten a package (and i have gotten pretty many) be it raw or amps that wasn't discretely. Everyone selling that kind of thing, including huge factory "legit" raw suppliers, know what time it is.
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If i hadn't used in 6mos. it would be 5 mos since i could say i was in the gym. I'm sure any of the 2000mg/week guys would say the same.
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UA knows what he is talking about, he wouldn't have mentioned it if it wasn't worth while. Get some detail though cause he is probably saying if your gonna do 200+ml. I sometimes make small 50ml batches of things like tren. ace./dbol/test. ace. to double filter 50 ml would be too time consuming i think. I have filtered oil alone (>350mls) into a sterile container to use at a later time for bigger jobs.
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This is not the place to look for sources or information regarding sources.
Please refrain from looking here for this information.
This thread is about the theoretical mechanics of compounding AAS at home.
We need to keep it to that so we dont make this into a cop troll thread.
Not that any of you have made/used test. ace. before but FYI, u need guiaicol to process even at only 100mg/ml and it's more painful than prop or tren. I can tell within a few hrs after use that i have taken it so it is a quick one, and within 36 hrs i can tell my levels are quickly diminishing so it's probably exactly what anyone would expect.
My first shot at homebrew.
You made those labels look nice, I'm a fan of the clear look.
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Your so right, i'm gonna make a solid effort not to mention anything outside of home brew. And, i'm not gonna answer any more PM's about anything outside of homebrew. Speaking of homebrew, i saw the Win in EO post and i was wondering if anyone has had any success with Win in Oil. I tried about 6 variations and decided to quit burning through raw when im not getting any where. Basskilleronline has some info but i followed it to the letter and it still kept crashing. I have been away for a while so if this is a re-run let me know what page i can find out.
brundel
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There is a reason people make it in water.
And the EO recipe doesnt even contain any oil at all.....its 100% solvent.
I guess Ethyl Oleate is the Oil? Ethyl oleate doesnt act the same as GSO for example.
Its cheaper and easier to just make it in water.
And the EO recipe doesnt even contain any oil at all.....its 100% solvent.
I guess Ethyl Oleate is the Oil? Ethyl oleate doesnt act the same as GSO for example.
Its cheaper and easier to just make it in water.
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Propylene Glycol is the only medium, besides oil and water, that i have ever used and didn't like it...to painful. I have read the info on EO with regard to anesthetic qualities and high suspension/ml but that shit is pretty extreme and i would need to use pretty much. The only reason i'm not into using a water base is because of what Brundel said about contaminants. I know he is right to because water is a much easier medium for bacteria to breed in than oil. I'm not even asking this for myself any way its for my partner. From now on Im only using oral only for Win. since the amount of damage to the liver is the same. I understand that you have to use a higher mg/day with orals but that doesn't concern me.
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The Win in EO was posted in response to one of my questions. I asked if anyone has any experience with making injectable Var and UA IRON (I believe) posted that combinnation saying that it might work to make the Var. I have yet to try but as soon as I can get around to it I will be sure to post the results.
You do not need to prefilter. I simply stated what I like to do. It especially doesn't make sense with small batches.
I have had luck with the winny in EO/guaiacol/BA/BB, its holding. I haven't used it yet though. Usually you see it crash when you start poking holes in the septum, but I think this is still a good recipe.
EO is the carrier, there is no oil carrying solution.
To me its essentially the same as making any oil based injectable - I've never made a water based suspension though.
I have had luck with the winny in EO/guaiacol/BA/BB, its holding. I haven't used it yet though. Usually you see it crash when you start poking holes in the septum, but I think this is still a good recipe.
EO is the carrier, there is no oil carrying solution.
To me its essentially the same as making any oil based injectable - I've never made a water based suspension though.
Water based is too easy:
1 g Winstrol powder
4 cc PEG 300/400
2 pieces of 0.45 um syringe filter
0.6 ml polysorbate 80
0.4 ml benzyl alcohol
14.25 ml distilled water
Mixing vial (or your prefered breaker)
20 ml vial
20 gauge needles
Syringe 5 ml
Syringe 10 ml
1. Mix 14.25 ml of distilled water with 0.4 ml benzyl alcohol.
2. Pass through syringe filter into 20ml vial.
3. Put 2 ml PEG300/400 into breaker and add 0.6 ml of Polysorbate 80.
4. Add 1 g of stanozolol powder to PEG/Polysorbate 80 mix.
5. Swril and heat until solution is completely homogeneous and clear. Make sure do it until no hormone swirls, crystal or visible separation left. PEG may smoke, but it is okay, it happens every time i have done this so don't worry about the smoke.
6. Let Stanozolol liquid to cool down but not too much you want it very warm when you filter it, a PVDF filter can handle the heat.
7. Draw it into 5 ml syringe, run it through the second new syringe into the 20 ml vial containing sterile water.
8. You can still use the same syringe filter as long as the filter is completely dry, But I wouldn't use the same filter if i didn't have to.
9. Filter the PEG/Polysorbate80/Stanozol mix through the filter into the water. It will titrate back into micronized form into the water.
10. Shake it vigerously.
11. Run 2 more ml of PEG300/400 through filter to purge.
If your doing more than 20 mls you have to remember that step 11 isn't just to purge you need it cause PEG with Poly 80 really helps prevent clumping
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hey this might be a dumb question but do you guys sterilize your beakers before mixing?? I was thinking about just swishing some iso alchohol around and letting it dry. Should i bake it in the oven or something too? Im planning on my first brew tomorrow and never really read anything about sterilizing the beakers.
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I put em in the dishwasher.
I also rinse them with benzyl alcohol before use.
Everything your going to put into the beaker will be filtered.
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I wash with a non-residue soap, rinse with ISO-alcohol, then bake at 225 for 15 or more minutes and use as soon as it cools enough and I don't use anything i haven't cleaned right when i'm gonna use it.
This is what I do also. Works well.
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brundel
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Looks tasty.
Evil Eagle
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Me wants.
I just did a test acetate, tren acetate, D-Bol blend (50,50,50) as far as cleaning utensils goes, i wash and heat dry everything before i bag it. So i clean everything directly before use and right after use. I just don't use the ISO when i do the post cleaning. As i said in the post before the blend turned an ugly brown color cause of the yellow tren.
do you add heat when you make the tren? That'll oxidize the tren and make it turn kind of rusty looking. When mixed with the green that'll turn brown.
yea, i heat it but only enough to melt it, and (i have ended up with amber before from overheating) i let it sit in the mix for a while. Also i put it in last since i don't use any guiaicol with the tren i put it in after i do the dbol and test acetate so the guiaicol i used for them chemically breaks it down some before i add heat. I only heat the tren at 190 and i do it in the oven. The microwave REALLY turns it brown. The majority of the problem came from using such a dark green GSO i think...I may have used too much heat though. I'll be more careful with the heat next time but i'm definitely not using this brand of GSO when doing anything tren. I somehow knew i should have used safflower oil for this blend.
