homebrew powder

[dillz2006]

so powders in the basement, brewed in the fridge?

 

[brundel]

A safe in your basement isnt a bad idea.

 

[probuilder]

Mixed hormones

Brundel, the winny receipe worked great you posted here. Has been tested and has good outcoming results. Thanks so much !

I would ike to brew Sustanon 250, from test dec, test iso, test phenyl, test p and test dec.
These hormones have different melting points.
How do I have to do it ? Mix them seperately with the BA, BA, filter to the vial ?

I want to make some more type of mixed hormones like this Sustanon 250. Boldenone & Testosterone, Nandrolone & Testosterone, Trenbolone & Boldenone, etc...

One method should work for all, right ?

Thanks for the info !

 

[brundel]

How much Var do you guys usually need to take daily to get what your looking for?? A pretty reliable authority of mine said it can do some pretty incredible things if you use like 100mg daily.

Var at 100+mg = tren without sides.

 

[brundel]

Brundel, the winny receipe worked great you posted here. Has been tested and has good outcoming results. Thanks so much !

I would ike to brew Sustanon 250, from test dec, test iso, test phenyl, test p and test dec.
These hormones have different melting points.
How do I have to do it ? Mix them seperately with the BA, BA, filter to the vial ?

I want to make some more type of mixed hormones like this Sustanon 250. Boldenone & Testosterone, Nandrolone & Testosterone, Trenbolone & Boldenone, etc...

One method should work for all, right ?

Thanks for the info !

The sust will work fine with 2% BA 20% BB.
It will be even better with 2% BA 20% BB + EO for oil.

Keep in mind some people have allergic reactions to EO but for most its fine. EO(ethyl oleate) makes for water thin injections and helps keep things in solution.

One method will not work for mixing everything.

 

[probuilder]

OK, I will try it with EO too.
And how do I have to brew this Sustanon 250 ?

Weigh out the powders, mix them together and after add the BA and BB to it ? Heat it up to the highest melting point, or how ? I think it wouldn't be good because there are lower and higher melting points, and the high temp would damage the lower ones. So I am stuck...

Please advice ! Thanks !

 

[brundel]

Mix BA, BB, OIL, Powders in a bomex beaker.
Heat on low stirring frequently until everything is Dissolved and the solution is clear.
DO NOT BOIL>
Allow to cool until it is hot but tolerable if you hold the beaker in your hand.
Filter.

 

[probuilder]

OK, and isn't it a problem that the testo prop and pp has about the double melting point than the testo deca and iso ?

 

[brundel]

OK, and isn't it a problem that the testo prop and pp has about the double melting point than the testo deca and iso ?

No.
You will not be melting it.
In fact you will not likely have it anywhere near the melting point of TP.
You are heating it just enough for everything to easily become soluble in the oil and solvent combo.
This can be done at about the temp of the water coming out of your sink.

 

[brundel]

The best way to heat it is a hotplate but if you do not have one then use a pan with about an inch of water in it. PLace the beaker in the water and turn the heat on low.
When everything dissolves turn the heat off.

 

[probuilder]

So it is not necessary to reach the "official" melting point points when I brew hormones ?
As you wrote " just enough for everything to easily become soluble in the oil and solvent combo ? "

Cause when I was brewing the winny I went up till the 235 Celsius melting point every time, but below this degree it has been clear already. So I can stop at this point the heating ?

 

[brundel]

With win it is a water based suspension.
SO in that case you will be melting it.
You will melt it in the PEG in order to filter it.
This is a "suspension" though.
For oil based "solutions" melting the compound is not necessary.

 

[probuilder]

All right, clear.

Thanks again for your help !

 

[anxious1]

I just use a rice cooker to heat up some water with a beaker settled into it. It heats up quite quickly, cost me $10, and has worked wonders so far.

It took maybe 3 minutes from plugging it in to having a dissolved hormone solution. Then added the oil, and two minutes later I was ready to rock and roll into the filter.

 

[Aaron S.]

trying to down dose some winni 50 caps. I was thinking of making 50 25's from 25 50's i was going to weigh out 25 50's and subtract capsule weight. I already know what 25 caps of glutamine weighs so i'll add that to the mix and blend it really well. A friend of mine said i should just match table spoon for table spoon glutamine and the 50mg stan/glutamine powder since i have a bunch of thats not been capped.

 

[TREMBO]

Does anybody have used ou heared about the use of soybean oil instead of cottonseed or GSO?

I've read a article that Brundel have posted...

Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of injectable testosterone undecanoate in castrated cynomolgus monkeys (Macaca fascicularis) are independent ofdifferent oil vehicles
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
WISTUBA Joachim ; LUETJENS C. Marc ; KAMISCHKE Axel ; GU Yi-Qun ; SCHLATT Stefan ; SIMONI Manuela ; NIESCHLAG Eberhard ;
Résumé / Abstract
Testosterone undecanoate (TU) dissolved in soybean oil was developed in China to improve the pharmacokinetics of this testosterone ester in comparison with TU in castor or tea seed oil. As a pre-clinical primate model, three groups of five castrated cynomolgus macaques received either a single intramuscular injection of 10 mg/kg bodyweight TU in soybean oil, in tea seed oil, or in castor oil (equals 6.3 mg pure T/kg bodyweight for all preparations). Testosterone, estradiol, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone as well as prostate volume, body weight and ejaculate weight were evaluated. After injection supraphysiological testosterone levels were induced. There were no significant differences in the pharmacokinetics of the three TU preparations for testosterone and estradiol. The gonadotropin levels showed a high individual variation. Prostate volumes increased equally in all groups after administration and declined to castrate level afterwards. The results suggest that TU in soybean oil produces similar effects as TU in the other vehicles. This study in non-human primates provides no objection to testing of this new preparation in humans.
Revue / Journal Title
Journal of medical primatology ISSN 0047-2565 CODEN JMPMAO
Source / Source
2005, vol. 34, no4, pp. 178-187 [10 page(s) (article)]
Langue / Language
Anglais
Editeur / Publisher
Blackwell, Oxford, ROYAUME-UNI (1972) (Revue)
Mots-clés d'auteur / Author Keywords
castor oil ; macaque ; pharmacokinetics ; soybean oil ; tea seed oil ; testosterone undecanoate ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 15665, 35400013816336.0030

 

[pieguy]

Soybean oil is a key oil used in vegetable oil which somebody in the homebrew thread said they brewed with. It worked, but he didn't comment on how easy/difficult it was to shoot.

 

[Greg_the_ripp]

hey guys i'm new to the site and been interested in this area for a while. Have been following the thread for a while now keep the info coming, great stuff

 

[keith1569]

soybean oil works fine..i have used it for many compounds..i prefer safflower oil though, but soybean goes through 28g slin pin, 25g, 23g no issues..28g slin does take some time though ha

 

[dwmer]

With win it is a water based suspension.
SO in that case you will be melting it.
You will melt it in the PEG in order to filter it.
This is a "suspension" though.
For oil based "solutions" melting the compound is not necessary.

What temperature do you aim for when you prepare your oil based solutions?

 

[SloppyJ]

What temperature do you aim for when you prepare your oil based solutions?

Depends on the compound. I just keep the heat low and make sure that all of the materials have combined into a clear uniform mixture.

I also use the pot on top of the stove with water in it. Works good for me!

 

[SloppyJ]

The explorer? Yeah she's on nickeloden I think.

 

[Greg_the_ripp]

well thats good to hear

 

[SloppyJ]

No soruce talk broski. Might wanna edit those.

 

[brundel]

What temperature do you aim for when you prepare your oil based solutions?

Yah low heat on a stove top with water works well.
Remember we are not melting we are just heating to assist the dissolving of the compounds in solution.
You will know its done when it turns clear.
Never boil the oil based solution.
If the water boils a bit its ok so long as your there to remove the solution as soon as it clears.

 

[Aaron S.]

A

soybean oil works fine..i have used it for many compounds..i prefer safflower oil though, but soybean goes through 28g slin pin, 25g, 23g no issues..28g slin does take some time though ha

I do my tren and test in safflower. I do everything else in GO. Safflower is so clear (the stuff that i get) it's almost colorless. Is there a relationship between the type of oil used and the degree the test is released.?

 

[Aaron S.]

I have a question about choosing a test. I never use Cyp because it requires BB to prepare it. Test Deca & Test E. Require nothing but a little heat. Isn't it better to use as little solvent as possible and therefore, if one has a choice, shouldn't one of these two be used instead of Cyp?

 

[keith1569]

check the sponsor section...

 

[James Wilcox]

sorry about asking for source... i had no idea it was against the rules, just thought it was against the rules to openly discuss them. now that i know it will never happen again
again, i sincerely apologize

 

[tyzero89]

I plan on brewing some TNE using the following...

100mg/ml
100% EO
20% GU
2% BA

My question is do i just mix all the powder and oils together and then apply heat then filter or is there certain steps i need to take....like adding things in at certain times.