Homebrew set up and discussion

[booze]

As the last thread was locked, thought id start a new one as the previous was quite helpful. No source talk or else this will get locked too.

Now, with a vacuum filtration system are people using plastic or glass vacuum receivers? I have been told under vacuum the plastic units are subject to cracking and failure as the benzyl softens the plastic? Any input would be great thanks.

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[keith1569]

I use the stericup setup which is one plastic unit. Also keep your psi around 5 to avoid cracking.

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[TREMBO]

Good initiative...

Some newbies just fucked up with our previous topic. I think it's easier to BAN them in order closing the topic and creating another one :/

 

[SloppyJ]

Damn yall have the vaccum deals? Fucking serious up in here. I plan on doing 300ml by hand....forearm pump here I come.

 

[SwoleZilla]

Damn yall have the vaccum deals? Fucking serious up in here. I plan on doing 300ml by hand....forearm pump here I come.

no jokin there

 

[Bigbully100678]

As the last thread was locked, thought id start a new one as the previous was quite helpful. No source talk or else this will get locked too.

Now, with a vacuum filtration system are people using plastic or glass vacuum receivers? I have been told under vacuum the plastic units are subject to cracking and failure as the benzyl softens the plastic? Any input would be great thanks.

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I can validate that claim. One time (and I don't know why) I tried to clean the plastic over the instrument cluster in my car with some break cleaner. It started to melt and smear the plastic, because of the benzene in it.

I havent used one of the stericups yet, but I read that as long as you keep it between 5-10 psi it will be ok and SHOULDN'T crack.

 

[SloppyJ]

I can validate that claim. One time (and I don't know why) I tried to clean the plastic over the instrument cluster in my car with some break cleaner. It started to melt and smear the plastic, because of the benzene in it.

I havent used one of the stericups yet, but I read that as long as you keep it between 5-10 psi it will be ok and SHOULDN'T crack.

Brake Fluid will fuck most shit up bro. It eats paint, and ate some rhino lining out of my jeep. Brake Fluid = Srs Bsns.

 

[keith1569]

Sloppy u are gonna be sorry if you brew all 300ml at once with a syringe filter.
Anything over 150ml my fingers start getting real tired

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[SloppyJ]

Sloppy u are gonna be sorry if you brew all 300ml at once with a syringe filter.
Anything over 150ml my fingers start getting real tired

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I'll bust out the whip and put the GF to work. This will be my first time brewing so I guess I'll take it slow. But I see no reason not to brew a big batch. Just seems like more work if I have to clean everything multiple times and start all over.

 

[Bigbully100678]

I'll bust out the whip and put the GF to work. This will be my first time brewing so I guess I'll take it slow. But I see no reason not to brew a big batch. Just seems like more work if I have to clean everything multiple times and start all over.

I brewed 200 ml recently. I used the 60ml syringe, syringe filter, and caulk gun. Took me about 4 hours!!! I will never do that again. Of course I used the .2 um filter. I have read differing stories in regards to the filter size. I have read that .2 isn't necessary, I have also read that it will filter out the bacteria, and anything that gets through, the ba will kill. I liked the sound of that which is why I went with the .2um.

 

[brundel]

if you have to use a syringe filter for 300ml (not recommended), alter a caulking gun so that it can be used for the squeeze in stead of your forearms. Youll thank me later.

A hand pump used for bleeding brakes and a stericup filtration system is far superior.
I dont go over 5psi. Just be patient. You could be spending 4 times as long and doing it by hand so be thankful it goes as fast as it does. If you cant wait 30 min for the shit to filter properly perhaps homebrewing isnt for you.

 

[TREMBO]

How many times does a sericup could be utilized?

Like if you got a cup that supports 150ml and you got 300ml, could you use it twice?

 

[brundel]

The filter could likely be used twice concurrently (one right after the other), however, once the receiver has been removed the unit is no longer sterile.
For this reason alone I would say to just purchase the 500ml one for a couple bucks more.
Otherwise if you must push 300 through a 150ml:
run the 300 through but attach a .45 syringe filter for vial filling. It will go through easily.

 

[TREMBO]

You mean filtering first at the stericup .22 and after running throught a .45 to the vial?

Why do I need that? Maybe because when you open the stericup for taking out the liquid it's not sterile anymore?

 

[tyzero89]

So if i am only doing 50-100ml at a time i can get away with using a 20ml syringe and a .22 filter? I dont really mind waiting. How much can i get threw one filter before having to replace it??

 

[SloppyJ]

I've heard caulk guns can be used so you don't get too tired. I've also heard, the smaller the syringe, the easier it is to get through the filter. Seems like a double edge sword.

 

[TREMBO]

So if i am only doing 50-100ml at a time i can get away with using a 20ml syringe and a .22 filter? I dont really mind waiting. How much can i get threw one filter before having to replace it??

Good question

I've heard caulk guns can be used so you don't get too tired. I've also heard, the smaller the syringe, the easier it is to get through the filter. Seems like a double edge sword.

I think the problem is that if you put too much strength the filter could break!

 

[booze]

if you have to use a syringe filter for 300ml (not recommended), alter a caulking gun so that it can be used for the squeeze in stead of your forearms. Youll thank me later.

A hand pump used for bleeding brakes and a stericup filtration system is far superior.
I dont go over 5psi. Just be patient. You could be spending 4 times as long and doing it by hand so be thankful it goes as fast as it does. If you cant wait 30 min for the shit to filter properly perhaps homebrewing isnt for you.

Are you using a plastic or metal hand pump?! Or anyone else for that matter. Thanks.

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[keith1569]

So if i am only doing 50-100ml at a time i can get away with using a 20ml syringe and a .22 filter? I dont really mind waiting. How much can i get threw one filter before having to replace it??

For me I have trouble getting 50ml through a .22 filter with a 5cc syringe. On the otherhand I can crank 100ml through a .45 with no problem..Both have never given me issues.

 

[keith1569]

Are you using a plastic or metal hand pump?! Or anyone else for that matter. Thanks.

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it really doesnt matter man..long as you can keep it at around 5psi. mine is metal though.

 

[booze]

it really doesnt matter man..long as you can keep it at around 5psi. mine is metal though.

Thanks mate, I have the metal variety on order. Also a glass filtration set up with membrane filter!

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[booze]

Furthermore, I haven't been able to get an answer on my unfiltered gear? I didn't have time to filter all, so I just baked the unfiltered stuff and will filter when I next get a chance. Is there a problem with this? Thanks.

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[keith1569]

just keep it in your vials until you can filter it..then filter into a sterile vial..

 

[Bigbully100678]

just keep it in your vials until you can filter it..then filter into a sterile vial..

I agree. I think you'll be ok so long as you don't forget to filter it.

 

[brundel]

Furthermore, I haven't been able to get an answer on my unfiltered gear? I didn't have time to filter all, so I just baked the unfiltered stuff and will filter when I next get a chance. Is there a problem with this? Thanks.

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Do not EVER use unfiltered gear.
Ever.

 

[brundel]

You mean filtering first at the stericup .22 and after running throught a .45 to the vial?

Why do I need that? Maybe because when you open the stericup for taking out the liquid it's not sterile anymore?

Once you open the filter to the environment it is no longer sterile.
So, you open it, potentially infecting the sterile portion and then intend to run the rest of your gear through it. THis means that your gear will have no particulates but a reasonable potential for bacterial infection.

The filters are only a few bucks. Spring for a second or buy the bigger one for 1$ more.

 

[booze]

just keep it in your vials until you can filter it..then filter into a sterile vial..

Thanks. Wasn't going to use it unfiltered, was wondering if it would be gtg if I filtered it at a later date. Seeks it is!! Cheers. Can't rep from phone sorry.

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[Pork Chop]

I want to set up a vacuum filtration system with a hand pump.
Could someone give me an exact list of everything i need to buy?
I have been looking at the famous research website everyone gets there syuff from but all the options confuse me, lol

 

[booze]

Have a look at the Homebrew discussion thread below. Lots of good info and pics.

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[brundel]

Millipore stericup filter + receiver combo
Hand pump
45mm septa top
45mm silicons septa