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John H. said:
Bio:

I am not avoiding anything.

DO your own research and YOU WILL FIND the answer.

There is a lot of research regarding Marriage - a MAN-MADE institution which comes in many forms not all "deliberate" or "contractual" or rigidly created. Or "visible". Before there was "marriage" there was Man. Marriage was created later and in some instances much later. Marriage is not universal.

John H.

your a moron, u talk in circles
 
John H. said:
Marriage - a MAN-MADE institution


I swear if I read that crap again, I am going to light myself on fire.

I can't take it anymore John H., please stop saying that over and over and over and over
 
Pepper said:
I swear if I read that crap again, I am going to light myself on fire.

I can't take it anymore John H., please stop saying that over and over and over and over
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
John H. said:
Bio:

I am not avoiding anything.

DO your own research and YOU WILL FIND the answer.

There is a lot of research regarding Marriage - a MAN-MADE institution which comes in many forms not all "deliberate" or "contractual" or rigidly created. Or "visible". Before there was "marriage" there was Man. Marriage was created later and in some instances much later. Marriage is not universal.

John H.
Well, I would have to agree with that.

Sorry Pepper :grin:
 
Well than that's probably why I feel that way. :lol:

I don't believe in the bible. :shrug:
 
well john i believe marriage was instituted shortly after God created woman. it was created by God himself in marrying adam to eve. i do not consider it a man made institution i consider it a God instituted one. therefore it is sacred and should be governed under the rules God has set.

As a Christian i accept the bible as truthful as far as it is translated correctly. therefore i accept the scripture 2 Peter 1:20-21 which reads

20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

so in Christian belief if there is a Prophecy or Revelation given to us by prophets (as the writers of the bible are) then it is the same as coming directly from God's mouth. and if there be any question as to the meaning of any prophecy or revelation then it be up to a prophet to give us the true meaning. it is not up to us to twist it for our own purposes.

i believe God has not been silent about homosexuality or any other sin. He has spoken clearly and unequivically that homosexuality is a sin and not to be accepted. and john please do not respond to this unless you have something new to add to the conversation. i would hate to hear of pepper being set on fire because you could not restrain yourself from posting yet again how "GOD HIMSELF, and CHRIST HIMSELF never said blah blah blah"
 
bio-chem said:
well john i believe marriage was instituted shortly after God created woman. it was created by God himself in marrying adam to eve. i do not consider it a man made institution i consider it a God instituted one. therefore it is sacred and should be governed under the rules God has set.

As a Christian i accept the bible as truthful as far as it is translated correctly. therefore i accept the scripture 2 Peter 1:20-21 which reads

20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

so in Christian belief if there is a Prophecy or Revelation given to us by prophets (as the writers of the bible are) then it is the same as coming directly from God's mouth. and if there be any question as to the meaning of any prophecy or revelation then it be up to a prophet to give us the true meaning. it is not up to us to twist it for our own purposes.

i believe God has not been silent about homosexuality or any other sin. He has spoken clearly and unequivically that homosexuality is a sin and not to be accepted. and john please do not respond to this unless you have something new to add to the conversation. i would hate to hear of pepper being set on fire because you could not restrain yourself from posting yet again how "GOD HIMSELF, and CHRIST HIMSELF never said blah blah blah"
I swear if I read that crap again, I am going to light myself on fire.

I can't take it anymore bio-chem., please stop saying that over and over and over and over and over and over and over...............
 
kicka19 said:
your a moron, u talk in circles

Kicka,

Actually YOU can not read - nor comprehend what others say.

You need to go back to school and learn.

John H.
 
Pepper said:
I swear if I read that crap again, I am going to light myself on fire.

I can't take it anymore John H., please stop saying that over and over and over and over

Hi Pepper,

FACTS ARE FACTS that can NOT be changed no matter how much anyone might want to do that FOR THEIR own reasons. I stated WHAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

It is way past time for religions to start telling the truth for a change.

I am not into telling or spreading lies. Ya get caught eventually and it can hurt. RELIGIONS ARE RESPONSIBLE for outright lying. I see NO difference between religion and politics. I DO SEE there is a God and there is an UNENDING VOID between religions and God.

Take Care, John H.
 
Pepper said:
It's man-made if you don't beleive the Bible.:shrug:

Hi Pepper,

AGAIN, the Bible WAS WRITTEN BY MEN - OVER 40 and over a long period of time and EACH AUTHOR has their own interpretation and "bent" on and reasons for what they say as with any other Human Being. Religions and politics are strange bedfellows because they truly are both strange. Truthfully speaking.

I am not against God in any way - I AM against MAN-MADE religion. Their history past and present proves why.

Take Care, John H.
 
bio-chem said:
well john i believe marriage was instituted shortly after God created woman. it was created by God himself in marrying adam to eve. i do not consider it a man made institution i consider it a God instituted one. therefore it is sacred and should be governed under the rules God has set.

As a Christian i accept the bible as truthful as far as it is translated correctly. therefore i accept the scripture 2 Peter 1:20-21 which reads

20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

so in Christian belief if there is a Prophecy or Revelation given to us by prophets (as the writers of the bible are) then it is the same as coming directly from God's mouth. and if there be any question as to the meaning of any prophecy or revelation then it be up to a prophet to give us the true meaning. it is not up to us to twist it for our own purposes.

i believe God has not been silent about homosexuality or any other sin. He has spoken clearly and unequivically that homosexuality is a sin and not to be accepted. and john please do not respond to this unless you have something new to add to the conversation. i would hate to hear of pepper being set on fire because you could not restrain yourself from posting yet again how "GOD HIMSELF, and CHRIST HIMSELF never said blah blah blah"

Bio:

There are many more books and sources you can read and learn from besides the Bible.

Get your head OUT of the Bible and start SEEING the world - there is an unlimited amount of information available to anyone where someone that HONESTLY wants to learn can. Start doing that. YOU DO - YOUR WORD - YOUR RESEARCH ON YOUR OWN OBJECTIVELY!!!

I say this respectfully to you: you need to get out from behind the "shell" you have created for yourself. You are causing yourself real harm by your self-imposed lack of any objectivity on any subject. HOW can you truly attend college and learn anything which such a narrow mind?

You are beating around a "bush" YOU CREATE to hide from the truth. Stop asking the same question over and over again - DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH OBJECTIVELY AND SEE THE TRUTH FOR YOURSELF!

John H.
 
ForemanRules said:

Hi Foreman,


These type people remind me of a child that asks over and over and over again for "more cookies" after you told them NO!

Take Care, John H.
 
bio-chem said:
well john i believe marriage was instituted shortly after God created woman. it was created by God himself in marrying adam to eve. i do not consider it a man made institution i consider it a God instituted one. therefore it is sacred and should be governed under the rules God has set.

As a Christian i accept the bible as truthful as far as it is translated correctly. therefore i accept the scripture 2 Peter 1:20-21 which reads

20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

so in Christian belief if there is a Prophecy or Revelation given to us by prophets (as the writers of the bible are) then it is the same as coming directly from God's mouth. and if there be any question as to the meaning of any prophecy or revelation then it be up to a prophet to give us the true meaning. it is not up to us to twist it for our own purposes.

i believe God has not been silent about homosexuality or any other sin. He has spoken clearly and unequivically that homosexuality is a sin and not to be accepted. and john please do not respond to this unless you have something new to add to the conversation. i would hate to hear of pepper being set on fire because you could not restrain yourself from posting yet again how "GOD HIMSELF, and CHRIST HIMSELF never said blah blah blah"

Bio:

When IN FACT They BOTH NEVER DID you nor anyone else CAN NEVER change the FACTS - THEY NEVER DID!! It's pretty simple - THEY NEVER - THEMSELVES - DID! PERIOD! That is the long and the short of the whole subject. I am not into creating but religious types certain are when it comes to the truth.

What was that about silence you just stated above? NOW are you taking back what YOU SAID? Religious types double-talk all the time.

John H.
 
John H. said:
Bio:

When IN FACT They BOTH NEVER DID you nor anyone else CAN NEVER change the FACTS - THEY NEVER DID!! It's pretty simple - THEY NEVER - THEMSELVES - DID! PERIOD! That is the long and the short of the whole subject. I am not into creating but religious types certain are when it comes to the truth.

What was that about silence you just stated above? NOW are you taking back what YOU SAID? Religious types double-talk all the time.

John H.

Keep saying this John H, maybe it will magically become true.

You have to be the most frustrating poster on IM. You post crap over and over again that simply isn't true. As I said in another thread, do like Jodi did and just say you don't believe the Bible. That is a respectable position.

Just misrepresenting what it says over and over again just makes you look like an ignorant jackass.
 
John H. said:
Bio:

When IN FACT They BOTH NEVER DID you nor anyone else CAN NEVER change the FACTS - THEY NEVER DID!! It's pretty simple - THEY NEVER - THEMSELVES - DID! PERIOD! That is the long and the short of the whole subject. I am not into creating but religious types certain are when it comes to the truth.

What was that about silence you just stated above? NOW are you taking back what YOU SAID? Religious types double-talk all the time.

John H.
BAN HIM, REASON:BIGOT
 
John H. said:
I see NO difference between religion and politics.

And I see no difference between you and those pull-string dolls. You say the same thing over and over and over again no matter how stupid it sounds.

I wish I had the discipline to just ignore you but I can't. I am weak.
 
Pepper said:
Keep saying this John H, maybe it will magically become true.

You have to be the most frustrating poster on IM. You post crap over and over again that simply isn't true. As I said in another thread, do like Jodi did and just say you don't believe the Bible. That is a respectable position.

Just misrepresenting what it says over and over again just makes you look like an ignorant jackass.

Hi Pepper,

I am not into "magic".

I stand COMPLETELY by what I have said because it is ABSOLUTELY TRUE - AND ACCURATE. You - and others - can try to change THE FACTS but THE FACTS are STILL what they are - FACTS. What YOU - and others as yourself are trying to do is to BEND facts and change what can not be changed - at least not honestly and accurately. It is not my intention to upset you or anyone else but YOU and others as yourself NEED to FACE THE FACTS AS THEY TRULY ARE and NOT create something that is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE.

As for misrepresenting, the Bible does that itself - even contradicts itself - because it is written by more than 40 human beings over a long period of time each with their own viewpoint and biases. And that comes out in that book which is really nothing more than a collection of literature.

ANY MAN I know of - REAL MAN - and I would categorize God and Christ in this area, WOULD SAY WHAT THEY - THEY - had to say - THEMSELVES - NEVER leaving anything important to others to "say" for Them!!!!!!.

God, Who we are told is the Creator, CERTAINLY KNOWS the strengths and and weaknesses of Human Beings since He created them. There is NO WAY God - or CHrist - would EVER allow a Human Being to SPEAK FOR THEM. THEY would DO IT THEMSELVES AND DIRECTLY!!!! Especially about things important. Simply put, as far as BiSexuality and Homosexuality goes, THEY BOTH NEVER SAID ONE WORD - EVER. Certainly They did NOT forget.

And remember too, the word "Homosexuality" is a Man-made word created, if I remember correctly about 1889. And if you look at Webster's New International Dictionary (big books), the older editions, at a large library you will NOT find the word "Homosexuality" in that dictionary until around 1930 or so.

Some religions have been printing in their Bibles recently the term "homosexuality" in their editions - THAT IS LYING, PURE and OUTRIGHT! Religions and religious people will do that to try to persuade others to "their thinking"....

Take Care, John H.
 
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Pepper said:
And I see no difference between you and those pull-string dolls. You say the same thing over and over and over again no matter how stupid it sounds.

I wish I had the discipline to just ignore you but I can't. I am weak.

Hi Pepper,

Really being truthful there is not much difference between religion and politics - they have always been strange bedfellows.

As for being "weak" (on a "lighter" note) that is why you are into Bodybuilding - to become strong. GO FOR IT Pepper - BE YOUR VERY BEST!!!

Take Care, John H.
 
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Rich46yo said:
Whos this cunt? And why did I feel we could have a rational discussion here............. :hmmm:

You are what you eat...:lick: Ya weiner...
 
bio-chem said:
i believe God has not been silent about homosexuality or any other sin. He has spoken clearly and unequivically that homosexuality is a sin and not to be accepted.


Really? Where was he speaking at? I guess the liberal media dropped the ball and didn't bother covering it.
 
Dale Mabry said:
Really? Where was he speaking at? I guess the liberal media dropped the ball and didn't bother covering it.
He only speaks to those who chose to listen. You didn't hear because you were too busy having a gay threeway with me and Topolo, remember? But you kept calling me God, so...
 
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