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How to rescue the housing market: Foreclosures!

The easy answer, if there is one, is to divest Wall Street of all the 'profits' it garnered from gaming the system on known poisonous mortgages. Relaxed or invisible underwriting of mortgages leading to profit for the scammers and unworkable mortgages for the victims.

And so many he-men want to put these victims on the street for being pigeons in a scam.

Well done gentlemen. You really are tough.
 
The easy answer, if there is one, is to divest Wall Street of all the 'profits' it garnered from gaming the system on known poisonous mortgages. Relaxed or invisible underwriting of mortgages leading to profit for the scammers and unworkable mortgages for the victims.

And so many he-men want to put these victims on the street for being pigeons in a scam.

Well done gentlemen. You really are tough.

there are only 2 types still spouting the rhetoric of the "free market" delusion. there are those that know how world finance operates and are evil and continue selling the lie that things will get better down the road. then there are those that are ignorant of the truth and still believe in another failed economic system.

there are also a great deal that stand somewhere in-between the two. they continue to live and believe in the "free market" lie because nobody knows what the next step is. many of them IMO are those that believe in magical thinking, that believe that things have to get better, well they don't. they still like to believe that they have some control over their lives, which they do. a very, very, very, little amount of control that only which exerts over their individual person and over their children to some extent.

all recessions are planned events. obviously not planned down to every detail and after effect but planned in that they always result in permanent transfers of wealth.
 
there are only 2 types still spouting the rhetoric of the "free market" delusion. there are those that know how world finance operates and are evil and continue selling the lie that things will get better down the road. then there are those that are ignorant of the truth and still believe in another failed economic system.

there are also a great deal that stand somewhere in-between the two. they continue to live and believe in the "free market" lie because nobody knows what the next step is. many of them IMO are those that believe in magical thinking, that believe that things have to get better, well they don't. they still like to believe that they have some control over their lives, which they do. a very, very, very, little amount of control that only which exerts over their individual person and over their children to some extent.

all recessions are planned events. obviously not planned down to every detail and after effect but planned in that they always result in permanent transfers of wealth.
Tax hikes and spending cuts lead to recessions. The last thing the economy needs is deficit reduction. On the federal level, a balanced budget is a recipe for recession. To that extent, I would agree with you that recessions are planned whenever the US gov. strives for and has a balanced budget. Clinton balanced the budget and Bush inherited the recession. Balanced budgets (spending cuts and tax hikes) take money out of the economy...literally starving it of dollars.
 
the 2001 recession had nothing to do with the budget and everything to do with over-investment in the technology sector. which mainly effected capital, labor didn't take a hit on home values only on stock share prices. the 2008 recession was the end result of 30 years of expanding household debt that reached record levels that was unsustainable, fueled by easy money out of the Fed and record low interest rates. it had nothing at all to do with taxes as they were and still are at a 60 year low on corp profits, capital and income.
 
The dark side of the issue. Some people take advantage of the situation.

Actor Tommy Lister, AKA

?Tiny? Lister, a character actor who has appeared in nearly 100 movies including ?Jackie Brown? and ?Beverly Hills Cop II,? has agreed to plead guilty to a mortgage fraud scheme that cost banks $3.8 million.
Actor Tommy Lister a San Fernando Valley accountant were charged Friday in federal court with conspiring to commit mortgage fraud in a scheme that led to $3.8 million in losses.
Lister, who is also known as ?Tiny? and ?Zeus,? a 54-year-old Chatsworth resident, was charged this afternoon in a criminal information with one count of conspiracy.

A second person involved in the scheme?Arcelia Chavez, 48, of Northridge, who is a self-employed certified tax preparer?was also charged with conspiracy.
In plea agreements that were also filed this afternoon in United States District Court, both Lister and Chavez agreed to plead guilty to the conspiracy charges.

The court documents filed today outline a scheme that ran from November 2005 through June 2007 and involved Lister, Chavez, and several other individuals, including: Sami Sager Sweiss, formerly a mortgage loan officer based in Woodland Hills; Jason Patterson, a real estate agent in Long Beach; J.R., formerly a manager of a Washington Mutual Bank branch in Woodland Hills; and Wanda Tenney, formerly an escrow officer based in the San Fernando Valley.

Lister conspired with these individuals to fraudulently acquire title to four residential properties he could not afford. With the help of these individuals and others, Lister obtained mortgages for the four properties through fraudulent means, including submitting mortgage applications that included inflated income and asset amounts; fabricating bank statements and falsifying other documents to substantiate the fraudulent statements in the loan applications; and falsifying escrow records to deceive lenders into believing Lister had made required down payments.

In addition to fraudulently obtaining the mortgages, Lister and his co-conspirators concealed from lenders the fact that he would receive kickbacks from sellers after the real estate deals closed.
Relying on the fraudulent applications and documents, lenders issued mortgages totaling $5.7 million. Lister subsequently defaulted on the four mortgages, causing those lenders and their successors to lose approximately $2.6 million.

After acquiring title to the four residential properties, Lister obtained fraudulent home equity lines of credit on each of the four properties. Lister drew down a total of $1,146,000 in cash from the four HELOCs but did not pay back any of the principal.
Lister also admitted in his plea agreement that Chavez aided and abetted him in obtaining one of the fraudulent mortgages and a fraudulent HELOC by preparing a false CPA letter, as well as fabricating W-2s and a pay stub. The false CPA letter stated that Chavez had prepared Lister?s tax returns. Chavez separately admitted in her plea agreement that she prepared the false and fictitious documents, actions that caused lenders to lose approximately $1.1 million.

Lister and Chavez will be summoned to appear in federal court in Los Angeles in September.The charge of conspiracy carries a statutory maximum sentence of five years in federal prison.

On July 30, 2012, Sweiss pleaded guilty to a conspiracy count before United States District Judge Dale S. Fischer. As part of his guilty plea, Sweiss admitted that he conspired with Lister, Patterson, Tenney, and Chavez to commit mortgage fraud. Sweiss is scheduled to be sentenced on March 18, 2013.

The charges in this case are the result of an investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and IRS-Criminal Investigation.
Please remember fraud is not just a white-collar crime; it?s a people crime. People commit it, people suffer in its wake, people?s lives are ruined, people enforce it, and it?s people like you and I who can prevent it.

Mortgage Fraud is insidious; it creeps up on you. Mortgage Fraud exists because it?s able to exist. It isn?t just the industry that?s ripe for manipulation. We can?t point to any one individual and say, ?Look, over there, he?s the guy we?ve been looking for. He?s the guy who made it possible for fraud to exist??

Instead, we must look to ourselves; not as the cause, but the solution. To fight fraud, though, we must first understand it. We must stop seeing fraudsters as criminals and look at them instead for what they really are: colleagues, neighbors, cubicle mates, sometimes even our ?friends.?
 
the housing market is toast for the most part. the fraud of the dead pledge should be pretty much apparent right now. with a rapidlly shrinking "middle-class" who will be able to afford to buy those homes in 20-30 years when 60% of the country is making 1960's wages working part-time.
 
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[h=2]The Senate will finally confront one of the architects of the subprime mortgage crisis today, hauling a tax-dodging, union-busting, bank-breaking, billionaire member of the "one percent" before the Senate Commerce Committee... to consider her confirmation as Secretary of Commerce in President Barack Obama's Cabinet.[/h]In the same week that the Senate grilled the CEO of Apple, Inc. about the low taxes it pays due to maintaining large cash deposits overseas, the Senate will roll out a warm welcome to Chicago heiress Penny Pritzker, who runs what Forbes called "one of the grandest and most successful family tax-avoidance schemes ever."
Instead of being lectured about her patriotism, Pritzker is being praised to the heavens, with fellow Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) claiming that the heiress to the Hyatt hotel fortune "has broken through the glass ceiling with her extraordinary intelligence and business acumen." The enthusiasm is bipartisan; fellow Illinoisan Mark Kirk is also on board.
Pritzker has a rather dubious record of public service, most recently serving on the board of the Chicago Public Schools, which just yesterday approved plans to close forty-nine failing schools. Her most notable public "contribution" has involved raising and bundling millions of dollars for President Obama's lavish political campaigns.
Unions dislike Pritzker as well, and at least one has opposed Pritzker's nomination based on its many battles with the Hyatt hotel chain regarding working conditions and wages. The left grassroots is also visibly irritated by the choice, seeing Pritzker's nomination to Commerce as the pay-to-play, Chicago cronyism that it is.
But the fix is in. When future generations look back at this moment and wonder how Washington failed to hold Wall Street--or itself--accountable for the subprime crisis, they will understand that Washington never really cared about anything but its own political prerogatives. With the right political friends, you can get away with anything.
 
Developer builds 25 Villas on shopping mall roof - Design - ShortList Magazine

Developer builds 25 Villas on shopping mall roof


06 Aug 2013

Sticking it to the man is all well and good, but it can backfire. Spare a thought for a developer who built 25 villas on the roof of a shopping mall in Hunan province without government approval. Because who needs government approval when you're a maverick housing developer?

Turns out, he does. He will not be allowed to sell any of the properties.

The villas, which cover approximately 20,000 square meters of Wings Housing Plaza in Hengyang, have been under threat of demolition. The city government has since ruled that the villas can remain but must not be sold.

The villas were built in 2009 atop the four-story construction materials and furniture mall, according to blog posts last week by Chinese netizens on China's version of Twitter.

Each villa has a blue roof and yellow exterior paint. Most have large porches and cement yards divided by white picket fences dotted with bushes. Even after construction was completed, the developer did not apply for a construction project planning license and a sales permit from the local government.

"The houses are now dormitories for our employees. Some migrant workers who took part in the villas construction are also living in them," Wang Jianxin, the developers general manager, told the Morning Herald.

"A construction expert said that if there is any structural change to a large building, the developer must have architects survey the structure and calculate the load that could be supported by the building. If the plazas structure is proved strong enough to hold the villas, then they will not have to be demolished."

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Peter Schiff Nailed Housing Bubble Back In 2006 (at the same time Paul Krugman had no clue what was about to happen with the economy.)


 
Structural versus Demand-Side Theories of Unemployment



Paul Krugman has a new post?which Scott Sumner calls ?very good??in which he explains why the structural explanations of the recession don?t fit the facts. In contrast (you will not be surprised to hear), Krugman?s own demand-side theory comes out with flying colors. Here?s Krugman:

[O]ne strong indicator that the problem isn?t structural is that as the economy has (partially) recovered, the recovery has tended to be fastest in precisely the same regions and occupations that were initially hit hardest. Goldman Sachs (no link) looks at unemployment in the ?sand states? that had the biggest housing bubbles versus the rest of the country; it looks like this:

So the states that took the biggest hit have recovered faster than the rest of the country, which is what you?d expect if it was all cycle, not structural change.
Now this is very interesting. I recall Krugman back in December 2008 making fun of the ?structural unemployment? theorists by writing:

One striking fact, which I?ve already written about, is that the current slump is affecting some non-housing-bubble states as or more severely as the epicenters of the bubble. Here?s a convenient table from the BLS, ranking states by the rise in unemployment over the past year. Unemployment is up everywhere. And while the centers of the bubble, Florida and California, are high in the rankings, so are Georgia, Alabama, and the Carolinas.


Now even at that time, Krugman?s analysis was goofy. I pointed out that looking at year-over-year changes in unemployment at the end of 2008 was hardly the right test. If we looked at changes from the moment the housing bubble burst, then five of the six states with the biggest housing declines were also in the list of the six states with the biggest increases in unemployment.
So let?s review: Back when Krugman thought that the data showed no obvious connection between the collapse in the housing bubble and unemployment rates, he was happy to say that the structuralists were wrong, and only his generic demand-side story made sense.
Now, four and a half years later, Krugman readily admits that unemployment shot up more in the housing bubble ?sand states? than in the rest of the country when the recession first struck. But because unemployment has fallen more sharply in these states amidst the recovery, he tells us that this is just what his demand-side story would predict. The structuralists, he tells us, can?t explain it.
That seems a bit convenient to me. One almost gets the sense that Krugman first looks at the data and then decides what his demand-side story predicts.
In any event, let?s apply this new, smashing argument against the structuralists to an earlier U.S. recession. Does everyone remember the downturn in the labor market of late 2005? Let?s go to FRED to refresh our memories:
As you can see, both the national and the Louisiana unemployment rates increased in late 2005. Now some of us Austrian and Real Business Cycle theory types wanted to blame it on a supply-side, structural problem?would this count??that interfered with workers, employers, and consumers being able to interact with each other as smoothly as in 2004.
However, it?s obvious from the chart above that the state hit hardest by the shock was also the one to recover the most quickly. Thus, as Krugman and Sumner tell us, this is quite compelling evidence that people in the US in late 2005 for some reason decided to stop spending enough money, and moreover they must have been really antsy about buying things made in Louisiana.
Structural versus Demand-Side Theories of Unemployment
 
You are foolishly assuming everyone who is behind is a deadbeat. Banks aren't willing to work with homeowners. Let's apply an employment theory here. If any job/income is better than no job/income then any payment being made on the mortgage is better than no payment being made. Most people just need either a rate adjustment or modification to put the delinquent portion at the end of the mortgage. But banks aren't willing to work with the customer.


I realize this is a very old post but it was spot on in my own case.

we had a significant structure fire. we had a few hiccups. I begged our lender to put one payment (one!) at the end of our term...no beuno. I would have to get behind on four payments, and be served before they would work with us . I didn't let it get to that point. I figured...its a VA loan right? I'll call the handy 800 number that goes along with that, if the bank won't help the VA can force help..right? wrong. same story..please actually be in foreclosure and we'll intervene...


whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. this makes no fricken sense.
I can't wait to get this paid off and just deal with my town taxes and homeowners ins.
 
oh, and to add to that...no the government shouldn't be bailing out foreclosures


I just felt the need to comment on how unwilling some banks are to be a tad flexible
 
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