I have a older lady(tailior) take a lott of stuff in.The waist to shoulder Ratio is where i have a problem.Like a lot of guys here.It dosnt look like im wearing a tent then.She only charges 4.00 a shirt.Its way worth it.Im 54 with a 21 inch neck,and i have freaky shoulders.Pants i buy big(42-36) and where a belt!