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"Instead of minimizing wages, we know it's a lot more profitable in the long term to minimize employee turnover and maximize employee productivity, commitment and loyalty, Jelinek said in the statement."

A smart man that knows how to manage a business beyond the MBA bean counter resource cost spreadsheet mentality that leads to customer service that sucks like you find at Wal-Mart.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/17/business/yourmoney/17costco.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

How Costco Became the Anti-Wal-Mart

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A Costco warehouse store in Tigard, Ore. The company is challenging the idea that discount retailers must pay workers poorly.

By Steve Greenhouse

Published: July 17, 2005 ISSAQUAH, Wash.

JIM SINEGAL, the chief executive of Costco Wholesale, the nation's fifth-largest retailer, had all the enthusiasm of an 8-year-old in a candy store as he tore open the container of one of his favorite new products: granola snack mix. "You got to try this; it's delicious," he said. "And just $9.99 for 38 ounces."


Defying the Analysts

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A Costco store in Issaquah, Wash.



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Costco's strategy of using plain spaces to sell products in bulk at deep discounts has won over many customers, said Jim Sinegal, Costco's chief executive.

Some 60 feet away, inside Costco's cavernous warehouse store here in the company's hometown, Mr. Sinegal became positively exuberant about the 87-inch-long Natuzzi brown leather sofas. "This is just $799.99," he said. "It's terrific quality. Most other places you'd have to pay $1,500, even $2,000."
But the piece de rsistance, the item he most wanted to crow about, was Costco's private-label pinpoint cotton dress shirts. "Look, these are just $12.99," he said, while lifting a crisp blue button-down. "At Nordstrom or Macy's, this is a $45, $50 shirt."
Combining high quality with stunningly low prices, the shirts appeal to upscale customers - and epitomize why some retail analysts say Mr. Sinegal just might be America's shrewdest merchant since Sam Walton.


But not everyone is happy with Costco's business strategy. Some Wall Street analysts assert that Mr. Sinegal is overly generous not only to Costco's customers but to its workers as well.
Costco's average pay, for example, is $17 an hour, 42 percent higher than its fiercest rival, Sam's Club. And Costco's health plan makes those at many other retailers look Scroogish. One analyst, Bill Dreher of Deutsche Bank, complained last year that at Costco "it's better to be an employee or a customer than a shareholder."


Mr. Sinegal begs to differ. He rejects Wall Street's assumption that to succeed in discount retailing, companies must pay poorly and skimp on benefits, or must ratchet up prices to meet Wall Street's profit demands.


Good wages and benefits are why Costco has extremely low rates of turnover and theft by employees, he said. And Costco's customers, who are more affluent than other warehouse store shoppers, stay loyal because they like that low prices do not come at the workers' expense. "This is not altruistic," he said. "This is good business."
He also dismisses calls to increase Costco's product markups. Mr. Sinegal, who has been in the retailing business for more than a half-century, said that heeding Wall Street's advice to raise some prices would bring Costco's downfall.

"When I started, Sears, Roebuck was the Costco of the country, but they allowed someone else to come in under them," he said. "We don't want to be one of the casualties. We don't want to turn around and say, 'We got so fancy we've raised our prices,' and all of a sudden a new competitor comes in and beats our prices."
At Costco, one of Mr. Sinegal's cardinal rules is that no branded item can be marked up by more than 14 percent, and no private-label item by more than 15 percent. In contrast, supermarkets generally mark up merchandise by 25 percent, and department stores by 50 percent or more.


"They could probably get more money for a lot of items they sell," said Ed Weller, a retailing analyst at ThinkEquity.


But Mr. Sinegal warned that if Costco increased markups to 16 or 18 percent, the company might slip down a dangerous slope and lose discipline in minimizing costs and prices.
Mr. Sinegal, whose father was a coal miner and steelworker, gave a simple explanation. "On Wall Street, they're in the business of making money between now and next Thursday," he said. "I don't say that with any bitterness, but we can't take that view. We want to build a company that will still be here 50 and 60 years from now."


IF shareholders mind Mr. Sinegal's philosophy, it is not obvious: Costco's stock price has risen more than 10 percent in the last 12 months, while Wal-Mart's has slipped 5 percent. Costco shares sell for almost 23 times expected earnings; at Wal-Mart the multiple is about 19.Mr. Dreher said Costco's share price was so high because so many people love the company. "It's a cult stock," he said.
Emme Kozloff, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Company, faulted Mr. Sinegal as being too generous to employees, noting that when analysts complained that Costco's workers were paying just 4 percent toward their health costs, he raised that percentage only to 8 percent, when the retail average is 25 percent.


"He has been too benevolent," she said. "He's right that a happy employee is a productive long-term employee, but he could force employees to pick up a little more of the burden."
Mr. Sinegal says he pays attention to analysts' advice because it enforces a healthy discipline, but he has largely shunned Wall Street pressure to be less generous to his workers.
"When Jim talks to us about setting wages and benefits, he doesn't want us to be better than everyone else, he wants us to be demonstrably better," said John Matthews, Costco's senior vice president for human resources.


With his ferocious attention to detail and price, Mr. Sinegal has made Costco the nation's leading warehouse retailer, with about half of the market, compared with 40 percent for the No. 2, Sam's Club. But Sam's is not a typical runner-up: it is part of the Wal-Mart empire, which, with $288 billion in sales last year, dwarfs Costco.
But it is the customer, more than the competition, that keeps Mr. Sinegal's attention. "We're very good merchants, and we offer value," he said. "The traditional retailer will say: 'I'm selling this for $10. I wonder whether I can get $10.50 or $11.' We say: 'We're selling it for $9. How do we get it down to $8?' We understand that our members don't come and shop with us because of the fancy window displays or the Santa Claus or the piano player. They come and shop with us because we offer great values."


Costco was founded with a single store in Seattle in 1983; it now has 457 stores, mostly in the United States, but also in Canada, Britain, South Korea, Taiwan and Japan. Wal-Mart, by contrast, had 642 Sam's Clubs in the United States and abroad as of Jan. 31.Costco's profit rose 22 percent last year, to $882 million, on sales of $47.1 billion. In the United States, its stores average $121 million in sales annually, far more than the $70 million for Sam's Clubs. And the average household income of Costco customers is $74,000 - with 31 percent earning over $100,000.


One reason the company has risen to the top and stayed there is that Mr. Sinegal relentlessly refines his model of the warehouse store - the bare-bones, cement-floor retailing space where shoppers pay a membership fee to choose from a limited number of products in large quantities at deep discounts. Costco has 44.6 million members, with households paying $45 a year and small businesses paying $100.
A typical Costco store stocks 4,000 types of items, including perhaps just four toothpaste brands, while a Wal-Mart typically stocks more than 100,000 types of items and may carry 60 sizes and brands of toothpastes. Narrowing the number of options increases the sales volume of each, allowing Costco to squeeze deeper and deeper bulk discounts from suppliers.


"He's a zealot on low prices," Ms. Kozloff said. "He's very reticent about finagling with his model."


Despite Costco's impressive record, Mr. Sinegal's salary is just $350,000, although he also received a $200,000 bonus last year. That puts him at less than 10 percent of many other chief executives, though Costco ranks 29th in revenue among all American companies.


"I've been very well rewarded," said Mr. Sinegal, who is worth more than $150 million thanks to his Costco stock holdings. "I just think that if you're going to try to run an organization that's very cost-conscious, then you can't have those disparities. Having an individual who is making 100 or 200 or 300 times more than the average person working on the floor is wrong."


There is little love lost between Wal-Mart and Costco. Wal-Mart, for example, boasts that its Sam's Club division has the lowest prices of any retailer. Mr. Sinegal emphatically dismissed that assertion with a one-word barnyard epithet. Sam's might make the case that its ketchup is cheaper than Costco's, he said, "but you can't compare Hunt's ketchup with Heinz ketchup."
Still, Costco is feeling the heat from Sam's Club. When Sam's began to pare prices aggressively several years ago, Costco had to shave its prices - and its already thin profit margins - ever further.
"Sam's Club has dramatically improved its operation and improved the quality of their merchandise," said Mr. Dreher, the Deutsche Bank analyst. "Using their buying power together with Wal-Mart's, it forces Costco to be very sharp on their prices."


Mr. Sinegal's elbows can be sharp as well. As most suppliers well know, his gruff charm is not what lets him sell goods at rock-bottom prices - it's his fearsome toughness, which he rarely shows in public. He often warns suppliers not to offer other retailers lower prices than Costco gets.


When a frozen-food supplier mistakenly sent Costco an invoice meant for Wal-Mart, he discovered that Wal-Mart was getting a better price. "We have not brought that supplier back," Mr. Sinegal said.
He has to be flinty, he said, because the competition is so fierce. "This is not the Little Sisters of the Poor," he said. "We have to be competitive in the toughest marketplace in the world against the biggest competitor in the world. We cannot afford to be timid."


Nor can he afford to let personal relationships get in his way. Tim Rose, Costco's senior vice president for food merchandising, recalled a time when Starbucks did not pass along savings from a drop in coffee bean prices. Though he is a friend of the Starbucks chairman, Howard Schultz, Mr. Sinegal warned he would remove Starbucks coffee from his stores unless it cut its prices.
Starbucks relented.
"Howard said, 'Who do you think you are? The price police?' " Mr. Rose recalled, adding that Mr. Sinegal replied emphatically that he was.


If Mr. Sinegal feels proprietary about warehouse stores, it is for good reason. He was present at the birth of the concept, in 1954. He was 18, a student at San Diego Community College, when a friend asked him to help unload mattresses for a month-old discount store called Fed-Mart.
What he thought would be a one-day job became a career. He rose to executive vice president for merchandising and became a prot?g? of Fed-Mart's chairman, Sol Price, who is credited with inventing the idea of high-volume warehouse stores that sell a limited number of products.


Mr. Price sold Fed-Mart to a German retailer in 1975 and was fired soon after. Mr. Sinegal then left and helped Mr. Price start a new warehouse company, Price Club. Its huge success led others to enter the business: Wal-Mart started Sam's Club, Zayre's started BJ's Wholesale Club and a Seattle entrepreneur tapped Mr. Sinegal to help him found Costco.


Costco has used Mr. Price's formula: sell a limited number of items, keep costs down, rely on high volume, pay workers well, have customers buy memberships and aim for upscale shoppers, especially small-business owners. In addition, don't advertise - that saves 2 percent a year in costs. Costco and Price Club merged in 1993.
"Jim has done a very good job in balancing the interests of the shareholders, the employees, the customers and the managers," said Mr. Price, now 89 and retired. "Most companies tilt too much one way or the other."


Mr. Sinegal, who is 69 but looks a decade younger, also delights in not tilting Costco too far into cheap merchandise, even at his warehouse stores. He loves the idea of the "treasure hunt" - occasional, temporary specials on exotic cheeses, Coach bags, plasma screen televisions, Waterford crystal, French wine and $5,000 necklaces - scattered among staples like toilet paper by the case and institutional-size jars of mayonnaise.
The treasure hunts, Mr. Sinegal says, create a sense of excitement and customer loyalty.


This knack for seeing things in a new way also explains Costco's approach to retaining employees as well as shoppers. Besides paying considerably more than competitors, for example, Costco contributes generously to its workers' 401(k) plans, starting with 3 percent of salary the second year and rising to 9 percent after 25 years.
ITS insurance plans absorb most dental expenses, and part-time workers are eligible for health insurance after just six months on the job, compared with two years at Wal-Mart. Eighty-five percent of Costco's workers have health insurance, compared with less than half at Wal-Mart and Target.


Costco also has not shut out unions, as some of its rivals have. The Teamsters union, for example, represents 14,000 of Costco's 113,000 employees. "They gave us the best agreement of any retailer in the country," said Rome Aloise, the union's chief negotiator with Costco. The contract guarantees employees at least 25 hours of work a week, he said, and requires that at least half of a store's workers be full time.
Workers seem enthusiastic. Beth Wagner, 36, used to manage a Rite Aid drugstore, where she made $24,000 a year and paid nearly $4,000 a year for health coverage. She quit five years ago to work at Costco, taking a cut in pay. She started at $10.50 an hour - $22,000 a year - but now makes $18 an hour as a receiving clerk. With annual bonuses, her income is about $40,000.
"I want to retire here," she said. "I love it here."
 
The above articles as to Costco are some of the keys as to why employees at Wal-Mart are paid so poorly and why many of them are on taxpayer funded welfare.
It's all about how a company distributes their cash.

Wall Street objects to Costco, because Costco doesn't treat their workers like working poor field hands like Wal-Mart does and doesn't distribute their cash to the upper economic class in the form of excessive owner and executive stock options grants and stock buybacks at the expense of their working poor employees and taxpayers that fund welfare for Wal-mart workers.

Costco, unlike Wal-Mart doesn't give their employees directions to welfare offices to apply for taxpayer funded welfare as they compensate them at a level that keeps them off of taxpayer funded welfare.
Costco is not going bankrupt by paying their employees a living wage and that destroys any argument as to paying employees a living wage and good benefits will bankrupt a company.

Note this:

"Despite Costco's impressive record, Mr. Sinegal's salary is just $350,000, although he also received a $200,000 bonus last year. That puts him at less than 10 percent of many other chief executives, though Costco ranks 29th in revenue among all American companies."

"I've been very well rewarded," said Mr. Sinegal, who is worth more than $150 million thanks to his Costco stock holdings. "I just think that if you're going to try to run an organization that's very cost-conscious, then you can't have those disparities. Having an individual who is making 100 or 200 or 300 times more than the average person working on the floor is wrong."
 
Costco employees are an upgrade from walmarts. you need prior experience to work there and make a good wage. Walmart will hire anyone no matter how inexperienced they are ect . the type of people Costco won't hire. look at the customer service you get at costco compared to Walmart. there's no comparison. Also look at the total bill at costco compared to Walmart. a bill at Walmart is nothing compared to Costco. At Costco people spend way more money than they do at Walmart. no comparison there either. there's no real comparison between the two companies. completely different business models.
 
Costco CEO Wants Government To Tip The Scales In His Company's Favor



By, Chris Rossini
WEDNESDAY, MARCH 6, 2013


What's more American these days than using government to tip the scales in your favor?

HuffPo reports:
On Tuesday, Costco CEO and President Craig Jelinek came out in support of the Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2013, which aims to raise the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour, then adjust it after that for inflation.
Now...Murray Rothbard smashed the minimum wage law in one succinct paragraph:
In truth, there is only one way to regard a minimum wage law: it is compulsory unemployment, period. The law says: it is illegal, and therefore criminal, for anyone to hire anyone else below the level of X dollars an hour. This means, plainly and simply, that a large number of free and voluntary wage contracts are now outlawed and hence that there will be a large amount of unemployment. Remember that the minimum wage law provides no jobs; it only outlaws them; and outlawed jobs are the inevitable result.
The Costco CEO then tells us about his company:
"We pay a starting hourly wage of $11.50 in all states where we do business, and we are still able to keep our overhead costs low."
So what?

Who cares that Costco's starting wage is $11.50/hr?

Does that change the economics of the minimum wage law? If Rothbard were still alive, would he have to retract his statement because of Costco's pay scales?

Not at all.

So, how could Costco benefit from their CEO publicly sticking his nose in on this issue? HuffPo says (my emphasis):
Costco has a reputation for paying its employees above market rate, with the typical worker earning around $45,000 in 2011, according to Fortune. Walmart-owned Sam's Club, in contrast, pays its sales associates an average of $17,486 per year, according to salary information website Glassdoor.com.
Ahaaa!!!

Stick it to the competition!

This is the same reason that Unions are traditionally in favor of minimum wage hikes. Screw the non-union individuals who are willing to work for lower wages!

Or as Bob Wenzel has said to me, "Well then, if the Costco chief wants to pay currently unemployed people more than the minimum wage, he should start doing so now. Let Costco hire them. What's that? He doesn't have jobs for them? Oh."

So the Costco CEO is just playing the game. The government billy club is there...why not pick it up and beat your competition over the head with it?
EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Costco CEO Wants Government To Tip The Scales In His Company's Favor



 
Get Dumbass out of office and eventualy our country will start to get better
 
Costco CEO Supports Minimum Wage Hike - Business Insider

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Costco Is The Perfect Example Of Why The Minimum Wage Should Be Higher

Ashley Lutz
Mar. 6, 2013, 10:45 AM

Big-box warehouse store Costco is often compared with Walmart's Sam's Club. Both stores are places where people go to buy in bulk and save money. But while Walmart employees are striking for higher wages and health care, Costco has some of the happiest employees in the business.
Costco pays its employees an average hourly wage of $11.50 to start. After five years, they make $19.50 an hour and get an "extra check," a bonus of more than $2,000 every six months, according to Slate.


While Wal-Mart's Sam's Club starts employees at $10 an hour, they make $12.50 after about five years, Slate reported.
Costco workers pay a 12 percent out of pocket premium for benefits, while Wal-Mart workers pay 40 percent.
This results in lower turnover and more skilled workers, Costco CEO Craig Jelinek said, according to the Puget Sound Business Journal.


He told advocacy group Business for a Fair Minimum Wage that he supports a national minimum wage increase.
The bill just introduced in Congress would increase the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour from $7.25 an hour over time.

Instead of minimizing wages, we know it's a lot more profitable in the long term to minimize employee turnover and maximize employee productivity, commitment and loyalty, Jelinek said in the statement.

Having more knowledgeable employees results in better sales, according to David Worrell at AllBusiness.com.
Costco averages $814 in sales per square foot, while Sam's Club makes just $586 per square foot.


In a recent earnings announcement, Wal-Mart Stores revealed that sales at Sam's Club were down.
Investing in employees creates loyalty and better customer service that trickles down to the consumer.

"Look at people as an investment and hire the best you can possibly afford," Worrell said. "Stretch to your limit to keep them excited about coming to work ... then watch as they actually perform."


Costco is a very good operator...they have found processes and such to be much more efficient the Same Club/Wal-Mart...and there wiping there ass with Wal-Mart everywhere they go...

By Costco paying a higher wage it proves that having good people will make you a better company and more profitable....

The wage difference is a little deceiving thou comparing Costco and Sam's per location....Sam's club has three times the employees then Costco does...and there mostly ground level employees....so it brings there average wage down a good bit....
 
there's a lot of people in your party that share your views on profits. it's disturbing to say the least.

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They are entitled to a profit.
What they are not entitled to, is to have a resource compensation wage and benefit model that consists in part of giving their low paid and benefit employees many who are temp at well under 40 hours a week that they will not give full time hours to in order to maintain wall street quarterly EPS forecasts, directions to the nearest welfare office so that the American taxpayers can subsidize Wal-Mart or any other corporation with taxpayer corporate welfare.
So that they can maintain enough cash flow after operating expenses to allow allocation of cash to fund huge levels of stock buybacks and high owner and executive compensation levels.

The social damage this employee low wage and benefit model is doing is huge.
It is causing a huge increase in the number of people in taxpayer funded socialist programs.

It is going to magnify the retirement funding problem as most of these employees are not going to be able to accumulate enough retirement account money due to this maximize profits low wage and benefit model and the resultant disposable income percentages they can apply to funding a retirement account.

Many of these low wage employees do not work 40 hours.
They are part time at under 30 hours a week and that is not all due to the ACA 30 hour a week trigger for health care benefits.
 
They are entitled to a profit.
What they are not entitled to, is to have a resource compensation wage and benefit model that consists in part of giving their low paid and benefit employees many who are temp at well under 40 hours a week that they will not give full time hours to in order to maintain wall street quarterly EPS forecasts, directions to the nearest welfare office so that the American taxpayers can subsidize Wal-Mart or any other corporation with taxpayer corporate welfare.
So that they can maintain enough cash flow after operating expenses to allow allocation of cash to fund huge levels of stock buybacks and high owner and executive compensation levels.

The social damage this employee low wage and benefit model is doing is huge.
It is causing a huge increase in the number of people in taxpayer funded socialist programs.

It is going to magnify the retirement funding problem as most of these employees are not going to be able to accumulate enough retirement account money due to this maximize profits low wage and benefit model and the resultant disposable income percentages they can apply to funding a retirement account.

Many of these low wage employees do not work 40 hours.
They are part time at under 30 hours a week and that is not all due to the ACA 30 hour a week trigger for health care benefits.

they can run their business anyway they want. don't like it, don't shop there or be don't be employed by them. simple as that and then the market will decide if they are a viable business or not.
 
Costco employees are an upgrade from walmarts. you need prior experience to work there and make a good wage. Walmart will hire anyone no matter how inexperienced they are ect . the type of people Costco won't hire. look at the customer service you get at costco compared to Walmart. there's no comparison. Also look at the total bill at costco compared to Walmart. a bill at Walmart is nothing compared to Costco. At Costco people spend way more money than they do at Walmart. no comparison there either. there's no real comparison between the two companies. completely different business models.

One puts people on government assistance, which you and I pay for, the other doesn't.
 
One puts people on government assistance, which you and I pay for, the other doesn't.

people put themselves on govt assistance because they have no viable skills for the current economy.
 
Costco is a very good operator...they have found processes and such to be much more efficient the Same Club/Wal-Mart...and there wiping there ass with Wal-Mart everywhere they go...

By Costco paying a higher wage it proves that having good people will make you a better company and more profitable....

The wage difference is a little deceiving thou comparing Costco and Sam's per location....Sam's club has three times the employees then Costco does...and there mostly ground level employees....so it brings there average wage down a good bit....

What Sam's Club pays brings their average wages down.
 
people put themselves on govt assistance because they have no viable skills for the current economy.

When there aren't any decent paying jobs people have no choice but to go on government assistance. Skills or no skills.
 
Being in business or investing in a business is not an automatic guarantee of profits. It never was, and it should stay that way.

no one said it was. why do you keep saying that foolish statement? profits are made by a successful business model.
 
they can run their business anyway they want. don't like it, don't shop there or be don't be employed by them. simple as that and then the market will decide if they are a viable business or not.

What you are advocating is socialism.
 
When there aren't any decent paying jobs people have no choice but to go on government assistance. Skills or no skills.

and you have govt to blame for it. your anger is direct at the wrong people.
 
no one said it was. why do you keep saying that foolish statement? profits are made by a successful business model.

The only reason for Walmart's success is that they depend on corporate welfare. That's not a business model, that's a scam.
 
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and you have govt to blame for it. your anger is direct at the wrong people.

Government is only part of the problem. A small part. Corporate greed is the bulk of the problem.
 
Lmao! no one can reason with a crazy leftist thinker like you. you'll never understand business. it's too bad.......

What is crazy and leftist about ending corporate welfare? If a company like Walmart cannot make a profit without forcing its employees to go on government assistance it has no business being in business. It deserves to fail.
 
What is crazy and leftist about ending corporate welfare? If a company like Walmart cannot make a profit without forcing its employees to go on government assistance it has no business being in business. It deserves to fail.

so you're ok with a $3.71 raise to all of walmarts employees with no expansion which means no more jobs created? And that's including no extra benefits
 
you have it all backwards, greed is good.

Just a brief head's up for you: Gordon Gekko is a fictional character from a movie.
 
so you're ok with a $3.71 raise to all of walmarts employees with no expansion which means no more jobs created? And that's including no extra benefits

If it gets them, and Walmart, off government assistance how can anyone say it's bad?
 
If it gets them, and Walmart, off government assistance how can anyone say it's bad?

ya think maybe the shareholders would care? lol. if Walmarts business model was never to make a profit there would be no Walmart. get it?
 
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