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Iran "doesn't give a damn"

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Again. You just proved how ignorant you are. The Saudis and the rest of the Arab countries would dance a happy dance if Iran was bombed and prevented fromm getting nukes. They would fein outrage, they throw parties on their places. They sure add hell wouldn't drip the dollar.

I'd have to agree here. The arabs may hate us, but they sure as hell have no love for the Iranians either. The last thing they want is Iran acquiring nukes and threatening the stability or becoming a dominant power of the region. Also, with the EU economy in the shitter, there's not exactly a good substitute for the greenback right now.
 
NO arab country wants Iranians to have the bomb, Nobody in the world for that matter! Except perhaps Chavez
 
sounds like the kind of training received at the school of america's at ft benning in GA. the US has directly killed millions over the decades in unneeded wars and trained thousands of foreign soldiers that have slaughtered millions in various parts of latin america..

yes the poor old innocent US...murdering, killing and plundering all under the guise of "spreading democracy" for decades since WWII. but I guess since these people where all non-whites it's ok then..


I personally sleep better knowing the guys with the biggest stick is America,
Other option? China? ffs, might as well clone Hitler!

Im not saying the Yanks are perfect, but imagine the world today without them! We can all pretend we live in a liberal world where the UN will actually have any meaning at all!

They do bullshit alot though !!!!!!!! aahahaha jk
 
You don't have any credibility around here. Lay down. ^^^

Aww did I interrupt your little online club? I guess I'm not here long enough o get a members only jacket. I thought this was a place for open discussion not a place for a narcissist to try and belittle a newcomer for adding his obviously unliked opinion. Whatever I got what I need I can go back to working out and having a life, I'll leave the jerking off to tranny photos to you. 8===o 0^:
 
The Iran "story".....once again.

This is a Jewish issue; an Israeli issue.

Why are Americans even paying attention?

India, Pakistan, and Israel already have nukes.

This rhetoric has been going on since 2005.

It's basically to late to stop the Iranian nuke program (Khatami started it in the late 80s).

The bombers in the OP's first post missed something: the US won't be helping Israel, except for some logistics and technology. Israel will have to do it alone for the most part.

And if Israel does, it won't be 100% effective and there will be Shihab-III missles hitting population centers like Tel Aviv.

We shall see.....never a dull moment in this world.
 
And if Israel does, it won't be 100% effective and there will be Shihab-III missles hitting population centers like Tel Aviv.

And what are you basing this on? They only war that's had them on the ropes was the Yom Kippur war. Even then, they were going to nuke the towel-heads. Every other conflict has been won, often easily, by the Israelis. They also, 100% effectively, destroyed Iraq's nuclear arms program in the 80s.

Ultimately, you can beat the Israelis, but you'll never win. They'll nuke the shit out of you. They do have second strike capabilities.
 
I personally sleep better knowing the guys with the biggest stick is America,
Other option? China? ffs, might as well clone Hitler!

And this is the real question: If not the USA, then who? You've already covered China. India then? Brazil? Russia? The Brits?

There is no better contender for the only superpower.
 
The Iran "story".....once again.

This is a Jewish issue; an Israeli issue.

Why are Americans even paying attention?

India, Pakistan, and Israel already have nukes.

This rhetoric has been going on since 2005.

It's basically to late to stop the Iranian nuke program (Khatami started it in the late 80s).

The bombers in the OP's first post missed something: the US won't be helping Israel, except for some logistics and technology. Israel will have to do it alone for the most part.

And if Israel does, it won't be 100% effective and there will be Shihab-III missles hitting population centers like Tel Aviv.

We shall see.....never a dull moment in this world.

Yes, India and Pakistan have nukes. But, for the time being, they're relatively stable and aren't calling for the immediate destruction of Israel and the USA. Additionally, you wanted to know why the United States just doesn't stay out of it? I can think of one reason, Iran is calling for our destruction, too! We're the "Great Satan," remember?

If a country is calling for destruction, and they are relentless in their pursuit of nuclear weapons, I think that I'm going to have a vested interest in eliminating the threat.
 
Iran is calling for our destruction, too! We're the "Great Satan," remember?

Haven't you heard? It's just a big misunderstanding. It's just a bad translation. What they really meant is that they want to give us hugs and puppies.
 
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^ yes thier english isn't good ,what they meant to say is that we are the "Great Santa"
 
Big Smoothy: Israel's strike will not likely be 100% effective.

And what are you basing this on?

Mossad Intell, and foreign analyst intell. The former head of Mossad gave an interview 2 days ago.

Some of the nuke facilities are very deep in the ground and fortified. Bunker busters can get some, but not all (so these analysts say).

A strike will delay the program not doubt - but not stop it completely.

This means, Israel will not be 100% effective in stopping the Iranian nuclear program.

They only war that's had them on the ropes was the Yom Kippur war.

Apples and oranges. This was 1. Egypt, 2. 1973, and 3: a war.

Israel is talking of a surgical strike using technology. Armies will not engage.

has been won, often easily, by the Israelis.

Apples and oranges, again.

They also, 100% effectively, destroyed Iraq's nuclear arms program in the 80s.

The strike on Osirik in 1982 was a different scenario. Apples and oranges.

I don't like Iran. I don't like Israel.

Let them deal with each other.
 
irans last test of Shihab-III, 3 out of 5 didnt fire and one blew itself apart mid flight

they mostly rely on doctored clips for propaganda purposes

the israelis dont have a choice, iran with a bomb = no more israel, can anyone seriously blame them for nuking iran if they did?

no chance in hell of destroying the bunkers, only america has enough bunker busters to "possibly" do that, even then they arent 100%
but they can seriously mess them up, those centrifuges run to millionth of a mm accuracy, a mouse fart could wipe out a set
 
Why are Americans even paying attention?

India, Pakistan, and Israel already have nukes.

This rhetoric has been going on since 2005.

much longer need to go back to the 50's. the CIA lead coup removed the elected leader Mohammad Mossadegh from power. he would not play ball with the US and also nationalized Iran's oil which the British were not happy about.

American's take tv to be reality and have forgotten or never really followed world history. the US has been fucking up the middle-east (and most of the world) for half a century now removing leaders via the CIA and installing their own puppets to open up those markets and get at those resources. lol at spreading democracy.....:roflmao:

and they wonder why Ahmadinejad says the things he does...the innocent US never does anything to anybody, just sitting here minding our own business...yeah fucking right
 
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much longer need to go back to the 50's. the CIA lead coup removed the elected leader Mohammad Mossadegh from power. he would not play ball with the US and also nationalized Iran's oil which the British were not happy about.

American's take tv to be reality and have forgotten or never really followed world history. the US has been fucking up the middle-east (and most of the world) for half a century now removing leaders via the CIA and installing their own puppets to open up those markets and get at those resources. lol at spreading democracy.....:roflmao:

Yes, LAM.

I've researched into Opertaion Ajax to remove Mossadegh.

Very few Americans know about it, including people in the military deployed in the Middle East.
 
installing US/UK puppets or removing allies no longer playing ball has been the main goal of the CIA for some 5-6 decades now. sometimes it sickens me when I think of what this country has become when you actually remove all the layers.

it's pretty much why I call shenanigans on the whole thing and tell everyone that wants to here it what I know.

If I ever come up missing Smoothy it's been nice knowing you and many of the others..
 
You don't have any credibility around here. Lay down. ^^^

He actually owned everything you've ever said on this subject. God damn, if you can't see what he is saying you are too far gone.
 
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I'd have to agree here. The arabs may hate us, but they sure as hell have no love for the Iranians either. The last thing they want is Iran acquiring nukes and threatening the stability or becoming a dominant power of the region. Also, with the EU economy in the shitter, there's not exactly a good substitute for the greenback right now.

nobody in the EU needs the USD it only costs more to purchase oil from OPEC due to having to pay exchange rates, etc. and opens up the exposure of other economy's to what happens in the US. this is exactly why the IMF and World Bank went to the SDR with the basket of currency's.

the dollar hedge-money is nothing but a scam. when foreign nations purchase USD for use on the world market by default that money by law has to be deposited into the accounts of capital holders. they get free capital. the main difference is that no other country has a central bank that prints money like the one in the US. that's why the EU got so fucked up from the banking collapse. all those country's just can't print their own money, they have to go to the ECB.

the US doesn't trade for shit...check the stats and records at any gov website, etc. 80% of personal consumption in the US comes from US company's, 3% from China and the rest from a variety of sources. one of the many reasons why US large firms bitching and complaining about corp tax rates compared to other country's is bullshit. it makes no difference what the tax rate is in 2 country's if they don't trade with each other, only when the individual travels to and from.
 
Again. You just proved how ignorant you are. The Saudis and the rest of the Arab countries would dance a happy dance if Iran was bombed and prevented from getting nukes. They would fein outrage, then throw parties in their places. They sure as hell wouldn't drop the dollar.

nobody needs the dollar anymore and after the last fiasco that the US financial sector pulled with defrauding US states, public and private investors and plenty of foreign nations which then turned into a global recession that killed millions...not a lot of fans of the USD out there.

it's why the IMF started using the SDR with a weighted basket of currencys

the Empire is on it's way down and it wasn't the unions or welfare or the poor people that didn't it, it was the capitalists and bankers at the top that have the lobbyists that write the legislation that titled the tables in their favor decades ago.

the only thing keeping the USD alive right now is OPEC once they dump the dollar, it's a wrap..
 
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The Iranian Ambassador to the UN had just finished giving a speech and walked out into the lobby of the convention center where he met U.S. General Patraeus. They shook hands. As they walked the Iranian said: "You know, I have just one question about what I have seen in America ."

The General said, "Well, anything I can do to help you, I will."

The Iranian whispered, "My son watches this show called Star Trek and in it there is Chekhov who is Russian, Scotty who is Scottish, Uhura who is black, and Sulu who is Japanese, but no Muslims. My son is very upset and doesn't understand why there aren't any Iranians, Iraqis, Afghans, Syrians or Pakistanis on Star Trek."

The General laughed, leaned toward the Iranian ambassador, and whispered back, "That's because it takes place in the future".

:roflmao:
 
I'm pretty sure they are the ones laughing right now. according to world bank records in 2002 the total debt of the 57 Muslim nations was only 635B.
 
I think we should stop ignoring the 800lb gorilla and cut ties with Israel. Our unwavering support of Israel and their many attrocities has caused that whole area of the world to hate us. Let's be smart about this if Iran got a nuke they would never bomb Israel with it, that would mean destroying their most sacred religious sites too.

Someone here gets it.
 
Either we are all going to die because of the Mayan calendar crap or some massive nuclear fallout.

Guess its time to enjoy the next 9 months...

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for the most part I'm pretty sure that the powers that be don't really care. they all have their nuclear bunkers to fall back on that are jam packed stores with seeds to grow everything known to man. the world is terrible overcrowded and these guys that run the IMF/World Bank, etc. are constantly talking about it. it's why the US gov designed and spread the AIDS virus and why you can legally purchase known carcinogen on every corner and why guns are so readily available in the US. the more people that die now the better off the world will be in the future.
 
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