thats at least believable. i knew kids in h.s. that could get bench in the 4's and DEF were not on juice. they were naturally BIG boys.
but there's 15 yr old kids saying they dead 600 for reps. that i don't believe.
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thats at least believable. i knew kids in h.s. that could get bench in the 4's and DEF were not on juice. they were naturally BIG boys.
but there's 15 yr old kids saying they dead 600 for reps. that i don't believe.
why?
i already told you my friend squatted 500 at age 15 last year...198lbs
no supps except protein
If he could do that
then guys that way like 235 and take creatine and all that stuff could do 600 lb deads...
Any lifting number thrown on the net is an average exageration of 43%. Fact.
Hmm regarding Kevin Rice, I remembered a few months back when I first visited he had a statement saying that along the lines of "although mentioned frequently, I have never used steroids"....looking through the site again, I can't seem to find it anymore....
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You also have to consider what a "good rep" is. Bouncing the bar off your chest while your partner deadlifts it for you doesnt count in my book.
that is the way the teach bench in college I think or at least that is the way it seemed to me. I could never ask someone for a spot besides my lifting buddy b/c no one had any clue how to spot someone the right way. And as anyone who is anyone knows a good spot can make or break a lift
creatine??? hahaha, seriously bro.
well, i dont believe it. 15 yr 160lb kids doing 600lb deadlifts for reps is bullshit in my book
If I ask someone for a spot, I always tell them not to touch the bar unless they see it starting to go down. It's amazing how many people will still grap the bar on the first sign of struggle. Damn I hate that!
i know, even some guys who you think would know better. If I needed that much help I would have taken some weight off, spotting is not suppose to be an exercise
Interesting point here. I guess I am a little anal, but to me a bench des not count if:
A)It is not done with free weights
B)You do not touch your chest and lock out at the top
C)Your ass even remotely comes up off of the bench.
D)Your spotter even just brushes the bottom of the bar.
When I was in high school there was a 15 year old benching 500 something, but he weighed like 390 (tall and very overweight). At my school I dont know of anyone benching over 330 for sure, although a couple of the non-football playing juicers I wouldn't doubt were over that but they didn't work out at school but once in a blue moon.
i do that some of the time now. Even on lighter weight. My form seems to come and go as my pecs do. I dont know whats going on but I hope it goes away again
benching 450 lb with a 3-ply shirt is no big deal at all at 200 lbs.
If it's not raw it's bullshit !
If it's not raw it's bullshit !
so what.,.. u dont believe me... i'll video tape it.
i never said that i was using Perfect form... if i had to do it for a "national record" i would get red flagged... but i HAVE brang 415lbs of weight on the bench press to my chest and put it back up... my butt was off the bench and my form was horrible.... but u know what... i still did it. If i had to do it for a record i would not get above 375.... No way and hell i could do 415 in record standards.... Oh but thats right.... maddog KNOWS everything. U gotta try to point me out dont u maddog? U are a pussy my friend... u just mad because u AINT SHIT. Fuck this board... im out. I'll post my 415 UGly form bench... and my 375 PERFECT bench when i get it... PEACE
Honestly I don't see what the big deal is. I haven't seen you do it so I can't say for sure you did, but I see no reason for you to lie to me.
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This thread should probably be closed up. I never have seen the guy, so I cant say. If he can bench 375 even, thats more than I can do and Im 23, so props on that at least.
Yeah I believe that. I have a friend who's a junior, weighs like 185, can bench an even 300, I'm not sure about his squat. Nobody in the school fucks with him either, he's really into martial arts and ground fighting and that shit. I'm not bullshitting either, you can read my stats. But anyways, this dude has been known to get together with a friend or two, pick up small cars by their back ends, and move them around parking lots randomly. It's very doable.
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hey x-
I'd say, the easiest way to improve form is to back off the weight a bit and get the form down proper.
Where do you place your feet when you bench?
I used to push w/ my legs,and my back would bow a bit. Now I tuck my legs under the bench. (feet together) that takes my legs out of it, no more bowing of the back. (I still have stablility)
Just a thought.
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If I need a spot, I try and find one of the guys I kow give good spots, and still instruct them how I want to be spotted.
hands on / hands off. no help unless weight stops, only enough to get the weight moving again.
is ur back supopse to be complety flat when benching...i mean wats best for just development not wats best to push more weight with....
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my shoulder blades and butt are on the bench. There may be a slirch in my back, but always in contact w/ bench
Thanks Burner, Yeah I think I need to play with my feet. I am comfortable and am not feeling like my form is such that it will lead to injury but it should be better. If my form does get bad I get to distracted by it and have to rack the bar anyway. I am going lighter in that I havent 1 or 2 rep maxed in a while (well no lower than 4)
you should have a "natural" arch in the back when benching...
the idiots in the gym that you see fuking air when they are benching heavy obviously have no idea how a lever works...lol
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