good evening i am putting together products for my first test e cycle i am 5-6 157 ..apx 18% bodyfat 53 yrs of age have been working out steady for about 3 yrs now .have gained 12 lbs in 8 months from 2 prohormone cycle and ready to move to test for other benifits along with muscle mass .. i have read here to kick start with dbol for 4 wks .my question being what would be better dbol or beastdrol for the kick start .. rest of cycle will be 12 wks test e starting at 300mg a wk pinning twice a wk probably moving up to 500mg for wks 6 through 12 . hcg 500mg a wk pinning twice arimidex .5 eod .any advice or imput on this cycle will be much appreciated .nothing written in stone yet .. pct will be tamox 4 wks( dosage not determined yet) probably daa 3 grams per day, erase after a couple of wks .. thanks for imput or recomendations
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kickstart for test e cycle dbol or beastdrol
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Roaddkingg
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I'm 55 sp perhaps I can help shed some light to you'r idea.
First off you'r body fat is a bit high and with it being that you stand a better chance of having side effects from you'r planned cycle. I would work on that a bit first while you are getting you'r idea's down pat. You are correct with the fact of doing two pins per wk to keep you'r plasma levels stable. But I would start at 500mgs per wk split in two pins and then in six to twelve go to 600 or even 700mgs per wk. Thats still not to much and you'll see better gains rather than starting @300. On the kick start I would use d-bol but you wont have to take much if you get quality d-bols. 30mgs per day should do it for a decent jump start. You'r HCG is resonable and so is you'r idea on the arimadex. But for PCT you need clomidaphene citrate & aromasin. Forget the nolvadex but have it on hand just in case you have any gyno symptoms.
Since you are older you'r PCT should be a bit longer than the younger guys. Try for 6wks PCT. Clomid for that cycle could be something like this. 100,75, 50, 50 ,50, 50.
For the aromasin it could be 25mgs, 25mgs, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5,12.5. The reason for the aromasin is that it is suicidal to estrrogen and you dont want a estro re-bound after cycle.
Run you'r arimadex right up until you start you'r PCT and dont forget to wait two weeks for the test to clear you'r systom before you begin PCT.
That should be a real sweet cycle for you, simple and to the point.
Make sure you get quality items and I always prefer pharm grade ai's over research chems.
If you need any further help just let me know.
Oh....always have a bit extra of everything on hand and dont begin you'r cycle until all the stuff is in you'r posession. Keep a note book of all things so there's no mistakes.
Digitalash
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Bro have you ever considered getting on, or self administering TRT? You will have a harder time recovering and maintaining gains at this point, and it will bring numerous benefits to your life outside of the gym.
As for your cycle I honestly believe 300mg is not worth it, and there is no reason to "pyramid" up like they did in the old days. Run it @ 500mg from day one and make the shutdown worth it. If I recall correctly beastdrol used to be phera but is now superdrol? So really it's a matter of how much water retention is ok with you, what kind of effects are you looking for from this cycle etc. Sides from 500mg of test will be minimal at best as long as an AI is used properly.
Your pct looks ok IMO, nolva will work fine and has less sides than clomid. Many will argue that and that's fine, they're very similar ability to stimulate the hpta so I think this is mostly personal choice. Add aromasin also if you like as it will help recovery.
As for your cycle I honestly believe 300mg is not worth it, and there is no reason to "pyramid" up like they did in the old days. Run it @ 500mg from day one and make the shutdown worth it. If I recall correctly beastdrol used to be phera but is now superdrol? So really it's a matter of how much water retention is ok with you, what kind of effects are you looking for from this cycle etc. Sides from 500mg of test will be minimal at best as long as an AI is used properly.
Your pct looks ok IMO, nolva will work fine and has less sides than clomid. Many will argue that and that's fine, they're very similar ability to stimulate the hpta so I think this is mostly personal choice. Add aromasin also if you like as it will help recovery.
beastdrol makes me super super strong cut and dry no bloat why people talk about superdrol bloating you idk best steriod in the world tren comes close.only neg is you can on ly run it short periods of times because it is ruff on the liver why anybody runs dbol and abombs when you can by beastdrol easy and cheap and legall is beyond me if you can not get stroung on the beast just give up on life really.
Supa Diesel G33k
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Beastdrol is def my favorite. I think its way better than dbol. Def my first choice.
Grozny
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From my point of view I think testosterone cypionate/enanthate at 200-400 mg per week is the most rational place for someone to start (and stay, really). This offers perhaps the highest benefit to risk ratio of any AAS program. Simple, effective, and safe.
All long acting testosterone esters are pretty equal. Even at 200-400 mg per week, testosterone is a strong AAS and should impart something noticeable.
Superdrol makes me feel like shit, I have tried twice. First time I made it 6 days on only 10mg a day the second I made it 5 days at 10mg then a couple at 15mg before I said fuck it. Feeling like shit is not worth it to me. Test Prop all the way for a jumpstart!
Digitalash
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superdrol makes me angsty and irritable, like a dark cloud over my head. But it makes you strong and dry, bodyfat melts away and muscle grows quickly. Stacked with test I never had any bad sides except mild headaches @ 30mg ed and some cramping, awesome pumps and hardness etc. I love it really and will definitely give it a few more runs, I'd rather stay lean and look good on cycle than puff up with water like with dbol etc. Dbol does make you feel much better and the gains were great but I got pretty bad lethargy towards the end.
Supa Diesel G33k
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Hell,
Did you run a test base with it?
Did you run a test base with it?
Digitalash
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I'm assuming he did but who knows. I agree I think most of the shitty feeling people associate with superdrol is because they didn't run test with it and it's very suppressive
Supa Diesel G33k
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Thats why im asking. I dont know why anyone would do Oral only cycles without running test or a test base. Just plain retarded is you ask me.
Yes, I was running test. Lethargy just got to be too much and just feeling ehhh, just not worth it to me. Ill stick with Prop for a kickstart and NPP/Tren/Test/EQ for everything else. Orals and I just dont get along.
dbol makes you feel better .. why is that ..thanks for everyones imput
