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I was just wondering if the LDS approved of your boob swinging avatar

Yes, yes we do! that boob swinging avatar honors God's greatest creation. Woman.
 
Yes, yes we do! that boob swinging avatar honors God's greatest creation. Woman.

Somehow I don't believe the Mormon religion approves of viewing girls as sex symbols, showing nipples through clothing and swinging them around.

Hypocrites!
 
Somehow I don't believe the Mormon religion approves of viewing girls as sex symbols, showing nipples through clothing and swinging them around.

Hypocrites!

it's a drawing dude. you need to lighten up :roflmao:
 
it's a drawing dude. you need to lighten up :roflmao:

It's about the way you advertise your religion to others... It just shows that you think of women as meat and not as people. It's not a good public image to give.

Take a laptop in and show it to the LDS officials or elders or whatever you call them and ask if they think it is appropriate
 
Secular societies don't mean moral chaos , Africa is poor example

If the following stats are right
Adherents.com: Atheist Statistics | Agnostic

the countries with the most professed athiests or secularists are doing pretty well.
( Sweden,Denmark, Norway, Japan) not exactly countries swimming in anarchy and roving rapist gangs.
 
It's about the way you advertise your religion to others... It just shows that you think of women as meat and not as people. It's not a good public image to give.

Take a laptop in and show it to the LDS officials or elders or whatever you call them and ask if they think it is appropriate

you of all people are going to give me advice on how women should be treated?:roflmao:

you treated your marriage like a business deal. your divorce had nothing to do with your wifes feelings and everything to do with money. after that you say that I treat women like a piece of meat? you can kiss my white ass if you think you're going to lecture me on morality. you have no moral code and no honor.

By the way. DOMS isn't mormon.
 
you of all people are going to give me advice on how women should be treated?:roflmao:

you treated your marriage like a business deal. your divorce had nothing to do with your wifes feelings and everything to do with money. after that you say that I treat women like a piece of meat? you can kiss my white ass if you think you're going to lecture me on morality. you have no moral code and no honor.

By the way. DOMS isn't mormon.

Isn't that judgemental of you... I thought Christians weren't supposed to be judgemental.

My divorce was not over money... I ended up giving her almost all of it.

The entire marriage felt more like a business deal more than a relationship. That is why I ended it. I don't see how that is treating her like a piece of meat.

You know nothing about my moral code and whether or not I have honor. You have no idea how I treat women. I am great to women that deserve it.

I never claimed to be anything other than what I am. I never claimed to come from some moral high ground. I don't care if you treat women like a peice of meat or not. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy that exists in religion. The religious claim to believe in all these virtuous ideals but their lives don't reflect it. They are just full of shit.

I am what I am, good or bad. I don't claim to be anything else and I stand by and support my actions. I have no regrets. Because I don't believe my past actions were a sin, I am sinless. I live up to my standards perfectly. I am perfect in every way.

You don't and can't live up to your religious standards.
 
Isn't that judgemental of you... I thought Christians weren't supposed to be judgemental.

My divorce was not over money... I ended up giving her almost all of it.

The entire marriage felt more like a business deal more than a relationship. That is why I ended it. I don't see how that is treating her like a piece of meat.

You know nothing about my moral code and whether or not I have honor. You have no idea how I treat women. I am great to women that deserve it.

I never claimed to be anything other than what I am. I never claimed to come from some moral high ground. I don't care if you treat women like a peice of meat or not. I am just pointing out the hypocrisy that exists in religion. The religious claim to believe in all these virtuous ideals but their lives don't reflect it. They are just full of shit.

I am what I am, good or bad. I don't claim to be anything else and I stand by and support my actions. I have no regrets. Because I don't believe my past actions were a sin, I am sinless. I live up to my standards perfectly. I am perfect in every way.

You don't and can't live up to your religious standards.

you made a covenant to love, honor and cherish your wife till death. you took the selfish way out and didn't live to your word. I don't find much honor in that.

I'm not perfect, nor do I claim to be. It's one thing to set the bar of perfection so high that you can never reach it, but in doing so you become better and stronger as you strive for it. It's another to set the bar so low that you can have the audacity to claim to already have reached it.

mind telling me what religious standards you don't feel i'm meeting? you know nothing of me or my religious standards/ideals yet you feel like you can lecture me on morals? especially when your own life shows that you are incapable of keeping your word. If there is any hypocrisy here going on it is on your shoulders. but im sure that as long as it meets your own personally derived moral code then it is all right, and you are sinless. hitler had his own moral code too. is he sinless?
 
you made a covenant to love, honor and cherish your wife till death. you took the selfish way out and didn't live to your word. I don't find much honor in that.

I'm not perfect, nor do I claim to be. It's one thing to set the bar of perfection so high that you can never reach it, but in doing so you become better and stronger as you strive for it. It's another to set the bar so low that you can have the audacity to claim to already have reached it.

mind telling me what religious standards you don't feel i'm meeting? you know nothing of me or my religious standards/ideals yet you feel like you can lecture me on morals? especially when your own life shows that you are incapable of keeping your word. If there is any hypocrisy here going on it is on your shoulders. but im sure that as long as it meets your own personally derived moral code then it is all right, and you are sinless. hitler had his own moral code too. is he sinless?

I lived by my word of marriage for ten years. The marriage wasn't serving either of us very well so I ended it. We are both better off now. Why is it honorable to stay in an unsatisfying marriage? That sounds like stupidity really... I would highly recommend divorce for people that no longer are in love. Dragging it out to the bitter end is just a waste of two lives.

I don't really know what religious standards you are failing to meet. I don't know you really and internet gibberish on this board is very different than what people are really like. I'm not judging you. It really doesn't matter to me.
 
...and religion worked real well for the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition and more recently all of the middle east and the terrorist accounts linked to religion.

Link shit that Christians did as far back as a 1000 years ago to what Muslims are doing today is pretty fucking stupid.

Places are messed up in this world. For every non-religious messed up place out there, there is a religious messed up place too. There is no corelation

Bullshit. The absolute worst place on the planet is the one most devoid of religion. The best places on this planet? Founded by religious people.

Suck it.
 
yeah well, whatever he is...

While DOMS isn't LDS he says he likes the LDS faith because the people actually live what they preach. :thinking:

thats the thing i absolutely love in this scenario. You made a covenant with a woman to love her till death. broke it, and now have the balls to claim that DOMS isn't living the LDS standards (which he isn't) because he has a cartoon avatar of a woman?

Hi pot, how are you?
Good kettle, how about yourself?
I'm doing really well kettle, but you have some black all over you that offends me.

there are times neil that i can read your posts and i like them even if I don't agree with them. it's interesting to see another perspective. But in this you are so far off base and so obviously looking for a fight that i have no respect for what you are trying to pull
 
I was just wondering if the LDS approved of your boob swinging avatar

I don't remember asking.

Even if they didn't like it, it doesn't change the fact that I think that people that push religion out of everything, and then bitch about how self-respect and morality is fading, are dumb shits.
 
yeah well, whatever he is...

A non-denominational Christian.

I like Mormons because of what I've seen them actually do good. They do more good than most (all?) other Christians groups that I've seen. Although, the really good Christians (Mormon and non) do good and don't tell anyone about it. So it's likely there are other Christian groups just like them.

Almost every group out there that does good in an organized way has a religious component to it. That might make you ass hurt to know that, but it's true.
 
I lived by my word of marriage for ten years. The marriage wasn't serving either of us very well so I ended it. We are both better off now. Why is it honorable to stay in an unsatisfying marriage? That sounds like stupidity really... I would highly recommend divorce for people that no longer are in love. Dragging it out to the bitter end is just a waste of two lives.

I don't really know what religious standards you are failing to meet. I don't know you really and internet gibberish on this board is very different than what people are really like. I'm not judging you. It really doesn't matter to me.

you are calling me a hypocrite. sounds a bit judgmental to me.

you need to stop coming after religion as a ridiculous way of somehow justifying your actions.
 
mind telling me what religious standards you don't feel i'm meeting? you know nothing of me or my religious standards/ideals yet you feel like you can lecture me on morals?

I think it's hilarious that non-religious people will talk shit about religious people, and then get all butt hurt when the religious people talk back.
 
I think it's hilarious that non-religious people will talk shit about religious people, and then get all butt hurt when the religious people talk back.

well said
 
You made a covenant with a woman to love her till death.

Covenant usually implies a religious covenant in this situation which it wasn't.

There was no "as long as you both shall live" in my vows.

It was a legal contract. I ended it legally. What's the problem?
 
Covenant usually implies a religious covenant in this situation which it wasn't.

There was no "as long as you both shall live" in my vows.

It was a legal contract. I ended it legally. What's the problem?

Bio, I'm going to have to side with Neil on this. Sometimes, marriages fall apart. Often it's mutual, but I've seen far too many people get married (especially young) and watch as one of them changes for the worst.

I've seen this scenario play out at least three times: The couple gets married. As the woman ages, she lets herself go and gets fat. Then, because she's no longer attractive and enjoys the perks thereof, she becomes bitter. Then she starts to take it out on the husband. There's no fixing that, the woman is set in her new ways and the only option (all three times) was for the man to leave.

I've also seen a guy get so super-possessive that the woman, if she wants any sort of freedom, has to leave.

So yeah, some divorces do have to happen.
 
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That article is shit.

"And you guessed it, several of the least religious countries have the highest living standards, including Hong Kong, Japan"

Japan? Least religious? :roflmao: Nearly every person there is Buddhist and Shintoist.

:funny::funny::funny:

Nearly every person there huh?

from wikipedia:

Religion in Japan is mainly associated with Shintō and Buddhism. Most Japanese people generally do not exclusively identify themselves as adherents of only one religion, but rather incorporate various elements in a syncretic fashion.[1] Japanese streets are decorated on Tanabata, Obon and Christmas. Japan grants full religious freedom allowing minority religions like Christianity, Islam and Sikhism to be practiced. High figures of 84% to 96% adhering to Shinto and Buddhism are not based on self-identification, but rather come primarily from birth records, following a longstanding practice of family lines being officially associated with a local Buddhist temple or Shinto shrine.[2][3][4][5]. 70 percent of Japanese profess no religious membership[6] and possibly only one in five Japanese claim a belief in God[7]. However, polls generally show that two-thirds of Japanese profess no religion[8] and according to Demerath (2001:138), 64% do not believe in God and 55% do not believe in Buddha
 
Link shit that Christians did as far back as a 1000 years ago to what Muslims are doing today is pretty fucking stupid.



Bullshit. The absolute worst place on the planet is the one most devoid of religion. The best places on this planet? Founded by religious people.

Suck it.

Is that a nice way for a religious person to talk?
 
Bio, I'm going to have to side with Neil on this. Sometimes, marriages fall apart. Often it's mutual, but I've seen far too many people get married (especially young) and watch as one of them changes for the worst.

I've seen this scenario play out at least three times: The couple gets married. As the woman ages, she lets herself go and gets fat. Then, because she's no longer attractive and enjoys the perks thereof, she becomes better. Then she starts to take it out on the husband. There's no fixing that, the woman is set in her new ways and the only option (all three times) was for the man to leave.

I've also seen a guy get so super-possessive that the woman, if she wants any sort of freedom, has to leave.

So yeah, some divorces do have to happen.

Thank you!

And I appreciate your swinging boobs too
 
Nearly every person there huh?

from wikipedia:

Religion in Japan is mainly associated with Shintō and Buddhism. Most Japanese people generally do not exclusively identify themselves as adherents of only one religion, but rather incorporate various elements in a syncretic fashion.[1] Japanese streets are decorated on Tanabata, Obon and Christmas. Japan grants full religious freedom allowing minority religions like Christianity, Islam and Sikhism to be practiced. High figures of 84% to 96% adhering to Shinto and Buddhism are not based on self-identification, but rather come primarily from birth records, following a longstanding practice of family lines being officially associated with a local Buddhist temple or Shinto shrine.[2][3][4][5]. 70 percent of Japanese profess no religious membership[6] and possibly only one in five Japanese claim a belief in God[7]. However, polls generally show that two-thirds of Japanese profess no religion[8] and according to Demerath (2001:138), 64% do not believe in God and 55% do not believe in Buddha

Also from wikipedia:

"The highest estimates for the number of Buddhists and Shintoists in Japan is 84–96%, representing a large number of believers in a syncretism of both religions.[10][129] However, these estimates are based on people with an association with a temple, rather than the number of people truly following the religion.[130] Professor Robert Kisala (Nanzan University) suggests that only 30 percent of the population identify themselves as belonging to a religion.[130]"

Nevermind what the people actually say, it's what a professor thinks that matters.
 
Also from wikipedia:

"The highest estimates for the number of Buddhists and Shintoists in Japan is 84???96%, representing a large number of believers in a syncretism of both religions.[10][129] However, these estimates are based on people with an association with a temple, rather than the number of people truly following the religion.[130] Professor Robert Kisala (Nanzan University) suggests that only 30 percent of the population identify themselves as belonging to a religion.[130]"

Nevermind what the people actually say, it's what a professor thinks that matters.

So if you take the highest estimate that is based on people with an association with a temple then I guess it would be higher... I'm actually surprised its not 100%. Why be associated with a temple if you weren't
 
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