Lucid Dreaming/OBE

[Crono1000]

does anybody have any experience with these? Since my teens I've had sleep paralysis in a spurty fashion, where I would have it on a nightly basis, it would go away for a few months, and then it would come back for a few weeks at a time. So I began to investigate this and found that it can be closely linked into lucid dreaming and out of body experiences (OBE). I've approached this with an open mind and had some very real, but also frightening experiences. Does anybody have any experience with this? I'm very curious but also scared by it all, and would like to get some info first hand

 

[maniclion]

I've done mescaline a few times. Most of the time I had OTWE.

Sometimes I have very vivid dreams, sometimes I have foggy dreams alot of the time I dream and really don't remember it. I have a prescription of Ambien for nights when I'm too wound up to sleep, I dream heavily when I take that, a few times I've woken up during a dream and still saw the dream transposed over the real image of my dawn lit bedroom it was just like a mescaline trip I had in a room with the curtains drawn during the afternoon.

One night not too long ago I was sleeping during a rainstorm, I dreamed I was waiting at a bus stop and rain was pouring heavily from the roof like tea from a pitcher. It sounded so real and close. I kind of woke a little and I still heard the water pouring and thought there was a hole in the roof so I opened my eyes wider and looked next to my bed as I did the sound drifted further away and I realized it was outside the window. When I rolled my head back I realized my pillow was slightly cupped by my ear and had amplified the sound making it sound closer. Outside stimuli effect my dreams often.

 

[BigDyl]

Yes, this happened to me a while back. I had sleep paralysis. I took a nap, and when had my eyes closed, I was awake, but couldn't move. I could also see my room with my eyes closed... or something. It seemed like an OBE.

 

[Crono1000]

OBE's truly frighten me, which is the one thing you don't want if you actually want to experience one. The more I read about it the more it frightens me, I'd rather play around with myself on a cognitive level (lucid dreaming) rather than a spiritual level (OBE), and the more I read about these and experiment the more "surreal" actual life feels, making me think I should stop while I'm not claiming to be Zorthar of Planet Xan

 

[BigDyl]

OBE's truly frighten me, which is the one thing you don't want if you actually want to experience one. The more I read about it the more it frightens me, I'd rather play around with myself on a cognitive level (lucid dreaming) rather than a spiritual level (OBE), and the more I read about these and experiment the more "surreal" actual life feels, making me think I should stop while I'm not claiming to be Zorthar of Planet Xan

There is a syncronicity found with OBE and extraterestrial visitations. So you're on the right path at least with Planet Xan...

 

[Crono1000]

Most of the time I had OTWE.

what's that?

Out The Wang Experiences?

 

[Crono1000]

There is a syncronicity found with OBE and extraterestrial visitations. So you're on the right path at least with Planet Xan...

yes but from what I've read these "visits" are probably just accidental OBE's.

During my sleep paralysis there are oftentimes "visitors" which I think is labeled the "old hag" in books. These visitors could easily be mistaken for aliens

and in a book I read it said that people that claim to have been abducted claim many experiences similar to OBE's

 

[BigDyl]

http://www.exopolitics.org/collier-dsg1.pdf

Defending Sacred Ground:
The Andromedan Compendium
The Story of Alex Collier and his
lifetime personal contact with the Zenetaen
culture from Andromeda
Produced by Letters From Andromeda and Diversified Enterprises
Edited by Val Valerian, January 1997, Revised July 1998
In cooperation with Moraney and Vasais of Andromeda

Chapter 1 - The Extraterrestrial Global Connection
The Draconians and the Paa Tal
Humans Have the Ability to Create Without
Technology
The Hierarchy in Our Galaxy
Time Travel Permits Altering Consciousness of a Race
The Abduction of Humans
The Rest of the Galactic Hierarchy
The Andromedan Council
The Negative Hierarchy: 932 to 3,700 Years Ahead
Forbidden Planet: U.S. Military, Montauk and Altair
Earth Humans: The Race That Kills Itself
To Believe or Not to Believe: That Is The Question
Space is the Place to Really See Your Face
History: More of a Circle Than a Spiral
Things Change, But They Remain the Same
The NSA: Black Monks, Alpha 1&2 and MJ-12
Project Blue Moon, Alpha 1 and Alpha 2
Our Moon's Forbidden History
Mars: Cultural Propaganda vs. Reality
Tetrahedronal Geometry and Magnetic Frequency
Generation
Holographic Image Technology
Life in the Cosmos: Bullets
The UN Global Biosphere Program
Flights Among the Stars: Spirit Journeys
Intention, Following Instinct and Frequency Shift
Effects
Hale-Bopp: The Blue Star and the Empire Strikes
Back
The Future, Self-Responsibility and Self-Determinism
The Andromedan Perspective on Human Biblical
Matters
The Andromedan Perspective: The Next Nine Years
More on the In-Human UN Biodiversity Treaty
Free-Thinking Humans Appear to Be the Enemy
Humans Shackled By Lack of Vision
If We Are Eternal, Then What's All the Fear About?
Belief Systems and the Creation of Physical Reality
Earth Evolution in Progress
Planetary Oxygen Level Near Critical Level
Who's The Real Power Here?
Sirius B Humanoids
Our Solar System At Fifth Density: Transforms in
Progress
About the Space of Fear
Withholding Love Creates Perpetual Disintegration
Reincarnational Souls of Influential Planetary
Personages
About the Subject of Walk-ins
The Concept of the Second Coming and Related
Topics
Nazi Scientists and Time-Traveling Greys in 1931
The Paa-Tal Redoux
Our Ancient Heritage in the Lyraen System
The Draconians: A Beginning Dialogue
On the Subject of Intention
Intent as the Primal Force of Creation
Questions and Answers

 

[Vieope]

I had sleep paralysis once, a few lucid dreams and no out of body experience so far.

The theory behind out of body experience is that it is just a dream. Coma patients and people being operated usually have out of body experiences because doctors usualy describe the room and it gets locked in their subconscious. But I remember watching a program where they wrote something in a piece of paper and placed it over the fluorescent light in the ceiling, some patients described exactly what was written. Read about the effects of dissociatives as well, the reports are even more fascinating.

Btw there are a lot of techniques to increase lucid dreaming or you could just experiment with the supplement melatonin.

 

[Crono1000]

I had sleep paralysis once, a few lucid dreams and no out of body experience so far.

The theory behind out of body experience is that it is just a dream. Coma patients and people being operated usually have out of body experiences because doctors usualy describe the room and it gets locked in their subconscious. But I remember watching a program where they wrote something in a piece of paper and placed it over the fluorescent light in the ceiling, some patients described exactly what was written. Read about the effects of dissociatives as well, the reports are even more fascinating.

Btw there are a lot of techiniques to increase lucid dreaming or you could just experiment with the supplement melatonin.

i remember you posting about a lucid dream once

from what I read there are some studies where a person can pick out a image of an object if you present it in the room during an OBE, but on the most part it either doesn't work or it's very distorted. For example, the closest replication I read of was a person described a little box in a bigger box with some stripes, which turned out to be the US flag, but overall the best we have are distorted images, which makes sense. Even in a supposed OBE everything is distorted in a dream like state.

 

[P-funk]

I have had out of body experiences a few times. It is defenitly a freaky thing and can get scarey. Especially when you can't move your body if you wake up in the middle of it and find yourself paralyzed for a moment. That feeling freaks me out. Defenitly a cool subject though. I did my psychology final paper in college on the subject.

 

[Crono1000]

I have had out of body experiences a few times. It is defenitly a freaky thing and can get scarey. Especially when you can't move your body if you wake up in the middle of it and find yourself paralyzed for a moment. That feeling freaks me out. Defenitly a cool subject though. I did my psychology final paper in college on the subject.

I'm psych major, that's a good idea. It's funny though cuz my least favorite topic in pscyh is existentialism, and I think this is very much related to it

 

[maniclion]

what's that?

Out The Wang Experiences?

Out of This World, jogging along the tread-mill rings of Saturn, sipping silver nectar from the tidal pools on Venus.

Sometimes if I drink early in the day, quit in the evening and go to bed by the time the buzz wears off I have the trippiest dreams ever. I think it's a very minor delirium tremens effect.

 

[Vieope]

i remember you posting about a lucid dream once

I posted once about how scared I was when sleep paralysis happened and a thread about changes in the ambient you are sleeping and how it affected dreams.

 

[Vieope]

I have had out of body experiences a few times.

It is kinda easy for you.

 

[P-funk]

It is kinda easy for you.

??

 

[maniclion]

??

Shortness joke again, less body, easier to slip out of. We have no clue how tall Vieope is though most rabbits I've seen don't get too very tall.

 

[Vieope]

 

[P-funk]

I can't believe that you got that! haha...damn, I was thinking he would hit me with some other bull shit but I can't believe you knew were he was going.

 

[Mudge]

I brought up lucid dreaming machines here once in a thread, I thought about getting one for toying with the mind (kinda like women do, but in a positive way).

 

[silencer]

does anybody have any experience with these? Since my teens I've had sleep paralysis in a spurty fashion, where I would have it on a nightly basis, it would go away for a few months, and then it would come back for a few weeks at a time. So I began to investigate this and found that it can be closely linked into lucid dreaming and out of body experiences (OBE). I've approached this with an open mind and had some very real, but also frightening experiences. Does anybody have any experience with this? I'm very curious but also scared by it all, and would like to get some info first hand

Yep, Well I don't think I have ever had an Actual OBE, but I've been paralysed so many times I can't count. At one point it was getting so bad that I was scared of falling asleep unless I was Extremely tired or drunk so I wouldn't go into a deep uncontious sleep as fast as possible. Scary as Fuck every fucking time I would have to say. I read a book that you have to pull on some pretend rope or something to get out of your body, I tried that one time...and I could see the room and I was asleep but it didn't work..I just eventually woke up scared as shit like usual It really sucks.

 

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

I have some very very vivid dreams alot. my doc says b-6 i think can cause this. but i do not kow. i have dreams that carry for weeks. like i will wake up and then when i got back to bed that night i will start where i left off. and i wake up and think i am awake but i am really still dreaming.

i was dreaming one time i was jogging and a car tried to hit me, i ran and ran accross a field and then hid, then ran into a house and it was mine then someone was comming for the door and i slammed it and went ot bed. then i woke and thought i was good then i went downstairs to check the mail , and a guy was htere with a knife telling me to leave. then i really woke up in my bed. then i grabbed my bat and went to the door just in case. lol. i hate this shit.

 

[CowPimp]

I've had lucid dreams before, but I've only ever had an OBE as a result of drugs. Actually, only one time from salvia divinorum extract (It's actually legal). Everyone I know has had an OBE with it if done properly. Really weird shit.

 

[NEW_IN_THE_GAME]

you can buy it here, my friends say you need alot tho. like quarter oz to get anything dont really know, maybe i will try.

 

[MyK]

I'm psych major, that's a good idea. It's funny though cuz my least favorite topic in pscyh is existentialism, and I think this is very much related to it

ha you need any papers let me know, I have a psych degree!

 

[MyK]

from what I understand about lucid dreams, its that you become consciously aware that your dreaming, in your dream. well apparently the test is to try and read a book or look at a watch, as you will see scrambled text in the book or the hands of a watch spinning or not telling time.

as fro me, I have become consious only a couple of the times during a dream, I performed the tests and immediately became so excited that I woke up!!!!! oh well!

 

[Little Wing]

http://www.dreamviews.com/

 

[Flex]

Sleep paralysis has happened to me more than a few times. It would almost always happen when i was taking a nap in the middle of the day and got little sleep from the night before.

My mind would wake up, and i'd just barely be able to see out of my still mostly shut eyelids. I'd start wondering why the hell i couldn't move, and i'd start getting scared. Then i'd try breathing in real heavy and trying to wake myself up, but it'd never work. For some reason i thought that if i fell back asleep, I'd die. But i'd always end up falling back asleep and waking and being fine.


Stupid peyote.

 

[BigDyl]

Sleep paralysis has happened to me more than a few times. It would almost always happen when i was taking a nap in the middle of the day and got little sleep from the night before.

My mind would wake up, and i'd just barely be able to see out of my still mostly shut eyelids. I'd start wondering why the hell i couldn't move, and i'd start getting scared. Then i'd try breathing in real heavy and trying to wake myself up, but it'd never work. For some reason i thought that if i fell back asleep, I'd die. But i'd always end up falling back asleep and waking and being fine.


Stupid peyote.

Sorry, I chloroformed you. Next time you won't wake up.

 

[Little Wing]

when i was a teen the 1st time i experienced sleep paralysis i was sleeping in a room where someone had been shot n killed not long before. i opened my eyes n couldn't move. i thought his ghost was holding me down. it lasted long enough to quite freak me out. it happened maybe 6 times during the next maybe 5 yrs n i realized it was at times i got totally exhausted before sleeping. once it happened while falling asleep n it felt like the bed was moving. i'd always try to concentrate n move an arm a leg n never could.