Lucid Dreaming/OBE

[Crono1000]

I had a really strong lucid dream last night. A bunch of weird things happened that don't really matter, but I got in a car with my dad and we drove away. I looked at the clock and performed my reality check- to see if the numbers stayed the same or not. Suddenly I noticed that each time I looked at the clock the time was different. Against my better judgement, I decided that what I was experiencing was a dream. And thus, I began my lucid dream. I hopped out of the car near a pond and tried to fly. So I took a leap of faith down a hill and fell face first into the pond. My dad laughed at me and I reached my hands up in the air to try to fly again. Nothing. Then I tried to change the scene, closed my eyes and when I opened them hoped to be somewhere else, but as I opened my eyes I woke up.

 

[Dale Mabry]

I realize I am dreaming in a dream all the time and just let it go on.

 

[maniclion]

I realize I am dreaming in a dream all the time and just let it go on.

Me too, I don't see what the fuss is about all this lucid dreaming. I alway's know I'm dreaming cause the environment is always a mix of different places I've been like my childhood home in Texas in the middle of a Hawaiian pineapple field, and the people are usually a hodge podge of people who have never been in the same timezone together let alone the same zipcode. Like the girl I met in Hong Kong and an old friend from Texas.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Yeah, when I see shit that doesn't happen or is illogical I just assume it is a dream.

 

[Mudge]

When I had really lucid dreams, where I knew I was dreaming and so on, was when I had too much cough syrup as a kid.

Robitrippin' is what they call it (robitussin).

I had sleep paralysis a couple years ago when I dreamed there was a ghost in the kitchen and it was moving me around the room in the air, strange.

 

[maniclion]

When I had really lucid dreams, where I knew I was dreaming and so on, was when I had too much cough syrup as a kid.

Robitrippin' is what they call it (robitussin).

DXM is a dissociative and enough of it will put you into the spirit world.

 

[Mudge]

Yep, plenty of OTC products for people to abuse and die from.

 

[Vieope]

http://www.dreamviews.com/

Awesome link.

 

[Crono1000]

http://www.dreamviews.com/

hehe, I overlooked this post. yeah that's the site where I'm learning alot of it, I started posting on the forums there as well

 

[Mudge]

Tonight I announce an experiment. Lets see if Sangria induces lucid dreaming.

...to be continued...

 

[BigDyl]

Tonight I announce an experiment. Lets see if Sangria induces lucid dreaming.

...to be continued...

 

[Mudge]

I'm still drinking man, results not finalized! Science must not be disturbed.

 

[Little Wing]

recently i started having dreams i know are dreams n there is always the same man in them. i think he is there to guide me on an inner journey a mentor. it's really cool. i can ask him things n he answers me but i haven't tried controlling the dreams. not sure i want to.

 

[Vieope]

hehe, I overlooked this post. yeah that's the site where I'm learning alot of it, I started posting on the forums there as well

I have been reading the lucid dreams site this afternoon listening to the same music, then I look to the name of the album:
"Awake is the new sleep" by Ben Lee

Wicked

 

[musclepump]

I've done mescaline a few times.

The only way to fly, as they say.

 

[Crono1000]

oh my god. I laid awake for 5 hours last night trying this stuff. AND NOTHING. GAAAAAAARGH

 

[Vieope]

I saw your thread there Crono..

Why did you stay awake for that long?

 

[Crono1000]

trying to fall into a dream. It never happened. As soon as I would realize I was dreaming I would startle awake

 

[Crono1000]

I have a few threads there. Like I said, there are some very real but frightening experiences associated with this if you allow it to. I was open minded because of my experiences with sleep paralysis

The one I really can't explain is if I concentrate long enough, my eyes will slowly open involuntarily. It's always my left eye, and when it opens my right eye begins to do it. I can't find any information on this but when my body is completely frozen my eyes will decide it's time to take a looksie. It's scary, but the point of all this is to grow accustomed to just go with the flow of whatever you body tries to do. I think it might be associated with REM

 

[Little Wing]

hehe, I overlooked this post. yeah that's the site where I'm learning alot of it, I started posting on the forums there as well

i think i'm going to look into it too. the dreams i'm having now are so cool i'm scared to chase them away if i exert too much control. last night the glass shattered out of my windows, i have big double windows beside my bed, n it became a doorway into another world a royoesque (as in luis royo's fantasy art) world....

 

[Crono1000]

i think i'm going to look into it too. the dreams i'm having now are so cool i'm scared to chase them away if i exert too much control. last night the glass shattered out of my windows, i have big double windows beside my bed, n it became a doorway into another world a royoesque (as in luis royo's fantasy art) world....

you're mocking me

just kidding. It's strange, I've never been into this "new age" stuff before. However, I've found that books on the subject are usually in the Psychology section so I feel less like a hippy when I'm researching it.

 

[MyK]

trying to fall into a dream. It never happened. As soon as I would realize I was dreaming I would startle awake

thats what happens to me too! one way to avoid id is too keep a log of your dreams so when you are dreaming you realize that you our due to certain familiar circumstances!!

hope that helps

 

[Vieope]

i think i'm going to look into it too.

I will start writing a dream journal and I am doing the basic techniques. I tell you tomorrow if something happens tonight.

you're mocking me

Some people there are bored with it already and now they discuss what should they do with their dreams, like what places they should go tonight. Cities or out of space?

 

[maniclion]

Forcing dreams is not very shamanistic, you should let them come to you from the deepest subliminal realm, attempts at trying to supress any part of it could end up possibly supressing something you need to let from under there and you could slip into depression or something, I think dreams are when your brain is doing a defrag on your memory circuits thats why you always have people from the far past mixed with people of yesterday in places you haven't been for years. If you want to play mind paint then do it during the day through meditation, but this is my final warning don't continue trying to be the director of your dreams for too long.

Now speaking on dreams have you ever had a false awakening? I had one just recently. My alarm went off and I guess I hit snooze, then I got up and went to the shower as I was staring at the water falling around my feet I heard a buzzing sound I thought, Oh NO the smoke alarm. I jumped out of the tub and went to open the bathroom door right as I threw it open an orange glow blinded me and I awoke for real to hear the alarm going of again and the sun beaming through a slot in the blinds right on my face. My body felt numb and I wasn't sure if I had fallen getting out of the tub and was knocked out and dreaming, complete confusion. Then my girlfriend hit me and told me to turn off the alarm thats when I realized I had a false awakening

 

[Vieope]

Forcing dreams is not very shamanistic, you should let them come to you from the deepest subliminal realm, attempts at trying to supress any part of it could end up possibly supressing something you need to let from under there and you could slip into depression or something, I think dreams are when your brain is doing a defrag on your memory circuits thats why you always have people from the far past mixed with people of yesterday in places you haven't been for years. If you want to play mind paint then do it during the day through meditation, but this is my final warning don't continue trying to be the director of your dreams for too long.

"Misconceptions
Dreams contain messages that are lost with lucid dreaming

Finally, many people take an intransigent stance against lucid dreaming based on their belief that our dreams are trying to tell us something, and we lose those messages by trying to alter our dreams. That’s a reasonable position to take, however, that idea is not entirely valid. First of all, most people that endeavour to have lucid dreams only have them occasionally—perhaps a few times a month. Some obviously will have them more often (perhaps several times a week or even in a night) but again for the most part, on average, those who attempt lucid dreaming still have more non-lucid dreams than lucid ones. Perhaps even more valid a point is that becoming proficient at lucid dreaming demands excellent dream recall. Thus, while practicing to become lucid in dreams you are also increasing your ability to remember your dreams, which as a by-product will provide you with more memorable dreams to sift through in search of hidden insight. Therefore one can practice lucid dreaming and still attain enough “regular” dreams so that he or she need not worry about losing something important."

Source: Dreamviews

 

[Crono1000]

"Misconceptions
Dreams contain messages that are lost with lucid dreaming

Finally, many people take an intransigent stance against lucid dreaming based on their belief that our dreams are trying to tell us something, and we lose those messages by trying to alter our dreams. That???s a reasonable position to take, however, that idea is not entirely valid. First of all, most people that endeavour to have lucid dreams only have them occasionally???perhaps a few times a month. Some obviously will have them more often (perhaps several times a week or even in a night) but again for the most part, on average, those who attempt lucid dreaming still have more non-lucid dreams than lucid ones. Perhaps even more valid a point is that becoming proficient at lucid dreaming demands excellent dream recall. Thus, while practicing to become lucid in dreams you are also increasing your ability to remember your dreams, which as a by-product will provide you with more memorable dreams to sift through in search of hidden insight. Therefore one can practice lucid dreaming and still attain enough ???regular??? dreams so that he or she need not worry about losing something important."

Source: Dreamviews

Face!

 

[Crono1000]

I actually agree with Manic on this one. I know that I lost an entire night's sleep trying to do this. My body was asleep, it was no longer under my control, but my mind was wide awake, staring at the hynogenic (sp?) images and sounds that my mind produced. But it didn't take me anywhere, and I didn't get to do anything. The whole time I was still in my body, even if I did drift off into senseless images and scenarios here and there. So at the end of it all, for 5 straight hours I did nothing. It's still a form of meditation so it was relaxing and felt like a very short amount of time, but I still got nothing accomplished and lost a whole night's sleep.

and even when I tried to stop, and decided fuck it I'm going to sleep for real, my mind still startled me awake every time I did actually drift into a dream

 

[Little Wing]

i think if i let the dreams flow naturally i'll learn something important. if i mess w them i could break the magic spell.

 

[BigDyl]

What you really seek is englightenment through Blaintology.

 

[Platinum]

I have plenty of crazy shit happen in my head while tripping on acid. That's abuot it though.