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machines or free weights?

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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
1. I'm not ignorant. I am tried and tested and wanting money back. I am also read up and decided and going a "better route".

2. I'm not unwilling to learn, i just don't need to hear a wrong answer to a question i already know the right answer to.

3. I'm not close-minded. see points 1 & 2.

4. yes, post a sample routine. I'd like to see.

I was not saying that stuff about you Chicken, just in general.
 
That was a funny response TCD...however...

I do not feel you are ignorant. In fact, you are quite intelligent.

I have no idea whether you are willing to learn...I know you think you've learned plenty from Paul and Chris...too bad you aren't willing to learn from me :)

You are not necessarily close minded, but you are wrong about this issue...my track record is one that nobody HAS EVER asked for their money back! In fact, they ask me why I don't charge more?

Sample chest 4 week cycle...

Week 1 :
-bench press...4 x 2-4
-incline press...3 x 4-6
-weighted dips...2-3 x 6-8

Week 2 :
-incline dumbell press...2 x 6-8
-smith press to neck...2 x 8-12
-flyes...2 x 12-15
-cable crossover...2 x 15-20

Week 3 :
-superset...machine flye/flat dumbell bench press...2 x 6-10 each
-superset...cable crossover/smith incline press...2 x 6-10 each
-dropset...bench press...triple drop of 6-8/6-8/6-8

Week 4 :
-cable flye...3 x 10-12
-hammer incline press...3 x 10-12
-vertical machine press...2 x 12-15
-bottom cable crossover...1-2 x 12-15

*no sets to failure in week 4

Thats just a sample cycle. Anyone besides TCD that wants a massive chest...try it! :thumb:
 
heeeey thanks for making this my 1st 4 pages thread
 
Originally posted by KANE_VICIOUS
heeeey thanks for making this my 1st 4 pages thread

Give Chicken Daddy the credit he deserves!
 
gotta love those drop sets. they are a killer. i particularly like doing drop sets with fly exercises, between DB flies, cable crossovers & peck deck your killing yourself, but heh that's why we lift!
 
Actually i never got most of this from paul and chris. Paul just makes sense and chris has good experience and talks sense.

I like Paul cause he's a no-shit kinda person and gets straight to the point: worry about getting big before trying to add detail. Makes perfect sense to me.
 
i know exactly what you are saying. in the first 4 years i strictly concentrated on building as much mass as possible. i got up to about 225 but felt at only 5'11" i was carrying to much weight.

i started my first cut cycle and got down to 195 with 8%BF. that is when i started doing more and more defining movements.

in reality it is all what you are looking for. if you want to put on a lot of mass stick to the basic movements. every once in a while it is good to switch things up and give the muscles a shocking.
 
lol, wtf is a "defining movement"?!
 
targeting certain areas of the chest that needed more development than others. in the beginning my upper chest was lagging behind in development and really didn't concern me until i was in the sport for a longer period of time.
 
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So you believe that things like concentration curls build more lower bicep?
 
actually i would have to say that concentration curls are a exercise to develop a better peak in the bi's. preacher curls are the ones that target the lower portion of the bicep.
 
lol.

Oh shit.

And will hanging leg raises build more lower abs?
 
No, really.

How about supsinated grip rows to build lower upper back and pronated for upper upper back?

haha.
 
Are you yawning or crying, prince?
 
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Are you yawning or crying, prince?

You have to excuse Prince...he gets sleepy when people act dopey....
 
Yeah, so pack it in Gopro!
 
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Yeah, so pack it in Gopro!


Funny Chicken! Go back to the WBB and play with the boys over there. Maybe they will make you a mod in the Gonna Do What I Want No Matter Whether I Grow Or Not Forum....
 
hehe.

I turned down mod opportunity months ago dude. I got no desire to be one.

And how did you know about that forum?
 
Originally posted by gopro



Funny Chicken! Go back to the WBB and play with the boys over there. Maybe they will make you a mod in the Gonna Do What I Want No Matter Whether I Grow Or Not Forum....

*** What's that supposed to mean?
 
Originally posted by gopro



Funny Chicken! Go back to the WBB and play with the boys over there. Maybe they will make you a mod in the Gonna Do What I Want No Matter Whether I Grow Or Not Forum....

HaHa LMFAO!!!!!
:D
 
Originally posted by Maki Riddington


*** What's that supposed to mean?

Hey Maki...how are you? I was not picking on WBB if thats what you are thinking. I was picking on our good friend Chicken Daddy. We have been having a little debate...that I am right about, but I digress...and I was basically telling him to go back where he came from...WBB. All in good fun Maki...all in good fun.

Hey, originally I was supposed to be made a mod at WBB, until Paul and Chris freaked out. I could have been having this argument over there, but TCD came into MY HOUSE, LOL.

Be good Maki. Good to see you over here!
 
haha you had this argument over there. And that's why you're here.
 
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
haha you had this argument over there. And that's why you're here.

True..I did have that argument over there and got sick of trying to teach old dogs new tricks. However, I got SO MANY emails and PMs from members asking me to go back to WBB that now I spend a little down time over there.
 
Who asked you back?
 
Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Who asked you back?

Many guys did. They all said they miss my perspective, and all of the knowledge I offered. I guess they wanted the other side of training than Paul or Chris might give.
 
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