MICHAEL JACKSON: One of the greatest stars

[IronAddict]

Hahah.... hysterical, especially the light switch.

 

[T_man]

This is all from a UK site T-man.

A UK site doesn't mean they were made here. I could take them from this site and claim they're from an American site but that doesn't mean they're made there either

 

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A UK site doesn't mean they were made here. I could take them from this site and claim they're from an American site but that doesn't mean they're made there either

I am not really an American citizen.....I am actually the Queen of England and I am really getting a kick out of your bloody replies chap.

 

[T_man]

Personal story.

One night I caught my half sister (not from my real father) having sex with my mothers boyfriend who we were living with.
She was 13 or 14, I was 11.

He treatened to hurt me and my other sisters if I told my mother, I was scared shit. So I kept it quiet.

My mother was a heavy sleeper so she never heard them...I used to hear the bed spring noises every night until I couldn't take it no more.

I told my mother and she didn't believe me, now this made things worse...the mental abuse was too much for a kid my age, his whole inner circle knew and made fun of me.
She took the both of us to our crazy Pentecostal neighbors the nuts made us put our hands on the bible and swear on it to see who spoke the truth...I sort got nervous and they mistook that as me being the lier.... Hench my hatred for Religious idiots.

Well one day she catches them, I had the flu at the time this happened but I was happy.

Well all hell breaks loose and blah blah blah, we go to the precinct and nothing was made out of it, since my half sister denied the whole thing happened they couldn't do a thing. No case.

Her boyfriend tries to make amends with my mother instead he stabs her in the back with a knife....every one cried that day but me.
I was just tired and empty to care.

Wow min0. thats just..... unbelievable. Ofcourse you looked like you were lying. Put yourself in their position before criticising so much.

it sounds like you're transfering personal feelings of this to michael tbh and i dont blame you i would too, it's just my opinion.

 

[T_man]

I am not really an American citizen.....I am actually the Queen of England and I am really getting a kick out of your bloody replies chap.

great this discussion can go on then

 

[T_man]

That has to be the dumbest shit I ever heard, how about wishing for none.
Please don't have kids.




I have 2 friends that have this, one was an Indian guy who was all white.
He showed me his license before the skin disorder and I was completely floored.

Haters? All this started when I mentioned it's a shame that his life is tarnished from the accusations but then you and Chobby turned it into a hate crime.
I remember DI's death....a whole lot of dirty laundry was spilled.
Oh if you really want to criticize the American media perhaps you haven't read the Sun and the mirror.....

Okay that bolded statement is just BS. I'm comparing the two situations just the way MJ & Einstein's effect on the world was compared. I was just choosing the lesser of two evils. This doesn't mean I want to have my child molested, heck, I'd rather have my balls cut off. I'm just comparing rediculous comparisons just as the people were. You're taking it at face value rather than including the context.
No need for personal attacks min0, this is supposed to be a debate (not an argument )


The sun and the mirror are joke newspapers that are full of shit. Everybody knows that. If you wan't to take them as representatives of the British Media then you're not as clever as I think you are (I do actually think you're really clever). Read the guardian, telegraph or BBC or something thats actually credited.

 

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Wow min0. thats just..... unbelievable. Ofcourse you looked like you were lying.

How did I look like I was lying? Did you see my facial expression, could you tell through the tone of my voice?
If you were not there then you can't make a judgement like that?

Put yourself in their position before criticising so much.

You do know that reading is fundamentle...why is it you and Chobby can't seperate the 2. I said he was accused, why did you change this? Stop twisting things and making it worse, your just as bad. Poor Micheal...his name is going through the gutter and your helping it.

it sounds like you're transfering personal feelings of this to michael tbh and i dont blame you i would too, it's just my opinion.

If I did I would really be calling him out, he was accused. I don't know what happened.
The sad thing is that you and Chobby Idolize Micheal Jackson so much that you would take his word over a kid. I am not blaming MJ but I am also not in the position to say the kids were lying.

Your going to hell son....

The 10 Commandments - God's Revelation in the Old Testament
The 10 Commandments are found in the Bible's Old Testament at Exodus,

"And God spoke all these words, saying: 'I am the LORD your God???

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

 

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great this discussion can go on then

I am older so it finishes with me.

 

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No need for personal attacks min0, this is supposed to be a debate (not an argument )

It wasn't an attack, what you said was pretty bone headed.


The sun and the mirror are joke newspapers that are full of shit. Everybody knows that. If you wan't to take them as representatives of the British Media then you're not as clever as I think you are (I do actually think you're really clever). Read the guardian, telegraph or BBC or something thats actually credited.[/QUOTE]

Well my sources at The Onion, Star and The National Enquirer all tell me they are legit newspapers.

Point is our distant cousins are no better than us....well our dental plan must be better....

 

[T_man]

How did I look like I was lying? Did you see my facial expression, could you tell through the tone of my voice?
If you were not there then you can't make a judgement like that?

You do know that reading is fundamentle...why is it you and Chobby can't seperate the 2. I said he was accused, why did you change this? Stop twisting things and making it worse, your just as bad. Poor Micheal...his name is going through the gutter and your helping it.

If I did I would really be calling him out, he was accused. I don't know what happened.
The sad thing is that you and Chobby Idolize Micheal Jackson so much that you would take his word over a kid. I am not blaming MJ but I am also not in the position to say the kids were lying.

Your going to hell son....

The 10 Commandments - God's Revelation in the Old Testament
The 10 Commandments are found in the Bible's Old Testament at Exodus,

"And God spoke all these words, saying: 'I am the LORD your God???

ONE: 'You shall have no other gods before Me.'

You said you were nervous and from that I guessed that you had a nervous expression, shaky voice etc which is what you said made them think you were lying so

Well I'm not a Michael Jackson fan actually. I enjoy his music but I didn't even have a single MJ song. I just find it sad that his name has been tarnished for understandable yet rediculous reasons. I just enjoy a good discussion if you've noticed Im always debating with people (I don't mean it to be an argument at all )

And about the kids thing. I'm a kid so you should believe my word over yours!

How do you know they weren't just told by their parents to claim they were molested eh?? If we're going to take shots at adults lets flip the coin over

 

[T_man]

It wasn't an attack, what you said was pretty bone headed.


Well my sources at The Onion, Star and The National Enquirer all tell me they are legit newspapers.

Point is our distant cousins are no better than us....well our dental plan must be better....

Not really. Not in that context.


Hahahaha I hope that statement about your sources is a fucking joke. I've never seen anything so rediculous about those newspapers honestly. If you read the whole newspapers you'll realise it without even being told.

 

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You said you were nervous and from that I guessed that you had a nervous expression, shaky voice etc which is what you said made them think you were lying so

Think about it, a young kid going through all of that trauma, how do you think a kid will react? Trust me, the guy was a real piece of shit that to this day I have never spoken to my half sister..if she died I will throw a party.
Damn it the guy even shot at my father.

Well I'm not a Michael Jackson fan actually. I enjoy his music but I didn't even have a single MJ song. I just find it sad that his name has been tarnished for understandable yet rediculous reasons. I just enjoy a good discussion if you've noticed Im always debating with people (I don't mean it to be an argument at all )

I actually am a fan of his, I grew up with his music.
The one thing that really sort of makes me laugh is that a lot of his fans hid in the closet once the accusation came out.
Some even stopped buying his records. But now that he is gone everyone hypocrite now wants to cry...his father even said this.

And about the kids thing. I'm a kid so you should believe my word over yours!

That was a low blow.

How do you know they weren't just told by their parents to claim they were molested eh?? If we're going to take shots at adults lets flip the coin over

I was shocked at the first accusation, the second one I really thought he was being framed, only because the parents heard of his accusations. Either they are stupid or they are trying to steal from MJ.

I keep saying he was accused, why are you saying different.

 

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Not really. Not in that context.

Yes, really. Never ever wish anything thing like that or use your kids in that text.


Hahahaha I hope that statement about your sources is a fucking joke. I've never seen anything so rediculous about those newspapers honestly. If you read the whole newspapers you'll realise it without even being told.[/QUOTE]

The Onion, Star and The National Enquirer...never heard of them?
You should know me by now.

 

[maniclion]

It wasn't an attack, what you said was pretty bone headed.


The sun and the mirror are joke newspapers that are full of shit. Everybody knows that. If you wan't to take them as representatives of the British Media then you're not as clever as I think you are (I do actually think you're really clever). Read the guardian, telegraph or BBC or something thats actually credited.

Well my sources at The Onion, Star and The National Enquirer all tell me they are legit newspapers.

Point is our distant cousins are no better than us....well our dental plan must be better....[/QUOTE]
Just wait until Paulrus dies and then watch to see how much dust the Brits can blow off of the tomes of media gathered on him.......


Sometimes people need to be kept in check, MJ was just a person, he was certainly no saint and certainly not as wacko as say Charles Manson. Does he deserve recognition for his achievements, yes....but lets not forget he had help producing all of those albums and videos, Guys like Quincy Jones and Babyface two real musical geniuses in their own light. I would say Prince ranks right up next to Michael as far as musically gifted goes...... Let's see what kind of hullabaloo Prince gets when it's his time.....

 

[T_man]

Well my sources at The Onion, Star and The National Enquirer all tell me they are legit newspapers.

Point is our distant cousins are no better than us....well our dental plan must be better....
Just wait until Paulrus dies and then watch to see how much dust the Brits can blow off of the tomes of media gathered on him.......


Sometimes people need to be kept in check, MJ was just a person, he was certainly no saint and certainly not as wacko as say Charles Manson. Does he deserve recognition for his achievements, yes....but lets not forget he had help producing all of those albums and videos, Guys like Quincy Jones and Babyface two real musical geniuses in their own light. I would say Prince ranks right up next to Michael as far as musically gifted goes...... Let's see what kind of hullabaloo Prince gets when it's his time.....

Haha. The "just a person" quote comes out. Name me someone who just "wasnt a person"

Btw who is Paulrus?? He cant be that famous if I havent heard of him

 

[T_man]

Yes, really. Never ever wish anything thing like that or use your kids in that text.

See this is where you're getting it confused. I didn't say I WANT my kids to get molested.
If you honestly, had to choose between your child being molested or a whole city being nuked it would be a pretty easy one(not easy but there would be an obvious winner). And don't lie to me by saying you wouldnt choose that one.

 

[T_man]

Think about it, a young kid going through all of that trauma, how do you think a kid will react? Trust me, the guy was a real piece of shit that to this day I have never spoken to my half sister..if she died I will throw a party.
Damn it the guy even shot at my father.

What a bastard

I actually am a fan of his, I grew up with his music.
The one thing that really sort of makes me laugh is that a lot of his fans hid in the closet once the accusation came out.
Some even stopped buying his records. But now that he is gone everyone hypocrite now wants to cry...his father even said this.

Don't you think it's a bit hypocritical calling yourself a fan and then being almost on the opposing side?
If you're going to say that you can be a fan yet find him guilty, or near enough, won't that be the same for all the other "hypocrites"?

That was a low blow.


I was shocked at the first accusation, the second one I really thought he was being framed, only because the parents heard of his accusations. Either they are stupid or they are trying to steal from MJ.

I keep saying he was accused, why are you saying different.

I just think he was a kid at heart honestly. I used to think he was a paedo till I did psychology at A-level and all the stuff I learned there made me realise that people need sufficient contact and bonding with other people their age within the critical period and also a good relationship with parents and strong attachments to be a "normal" person. This is what MJ did not and he didn't become a "normal" person. I think it was innocent, but can see why some people think of him what they do.

 

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See this is where you're getting it confused. I didn't say I WANT my kids to get molested.
If you honestly, had to choose between your child being molested or a whole city being nuked it would be a pretty easy one(not easy but there would be an obvious winner). And don't lie to me by saying you wouldnt choose that one.

I don't want to even think that.
Well maybe it would be an easier decision if you were my kid.

 

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Don't you think it's a bit hypocritical calling yourself a fan and then being almost on the opposing side?
If you're going to say that you can be a fan yet find him guilty, or near enough, won't that be the same for all the other "hypocrites"?

I am a fan of his music, either you have OCD or you just want to play games I keep telling you I never said he was guilty...not that I am saying he is innocent either.

I like the music of a lot of stars, some are junkies, wife beaters, killers....

I just think he was a kid at heart honestly.

True.

 

[T_man]

I am a fan of his music, either you have OCD or you just want to play games I keep telling you I never said he was guilty...not that I am saying he is innocent either.

I like the music of a lot of stars, some are junkies, wife beaters, killers....



True.

And I keep saying that you think he's close enough to guilty. Well closer to innocent because you said you're horrified that he's even accused of it. Surely you're incinuating you think he's more guilty an innocent by this

You have OCD of not clearly reading my statements either

 

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I'm glad you finally see things my way. Good talk.