Milk Sugar

[MeLo]

I recently read that the sugar(carbs) in milk is actually digested slowly, slower than oatmeal. So it's actually good as a pre-bedtime snack?

 

[Leslie]

Sugar, no matter in what food, does not digest slowly- ESP slower than oats.

I'd like to see this article

 

[Mudge]

I've never heard that.

 

[MeLo]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne2.htm under bulking tips

 

[eidolon]

Isn't the lower the number on the glycemic scale the slower it enters the bloodstream? For 1 cup of skim milk it's rated at 32 on the GI.

 

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Mudge
I've never heard that.

Here is the quote:
"Before bed is also very important. You will be going 8 hours without protein so you will want a slow digesting protein, I usually drink 4 glasses of milk because it is rich in casein (a slow digesting protein) The carbs in the milk will spare the protein while you sleep. Even though milk says all the carbs are sugar, milk sugar digests slowly, slower than oatmeal actually, so they will stay with you throughout the night."



Casein does digest slower...but milk sugar?
Drinking 4 glasses of milk before bed, or anytime will most likely add to fat gain in most indiduals.

 

[Premo55]

Casein is what digests slowly, not the lactose in dairy products...and glycemic index has nothing to do with how slowly a carb is digested, it merely indicates the kind of insulin response you can expect from the carb, so as to aid diabetics in regulating their blood sugar levels. Lactose IS low-glycemic as a carb/sugar, but it WILL cause fat gain and bloating in most individuals. Personally I am very sensitive to dairy, and the only dairy product I use is no-salt cottage cheese.

Peace.

 

[Mudge]

Now we have something sensible. Casein is roughly 7 hours, and albumin is roughly 4-4.5 (egg protein).

Lactose makes me fat in pretty short order, I grew up on milk but every time I come off it my waist goes down. I just finished up about 8 gallons of milk which was nice for awhile but will not be using it again for who knows how long, I was doing about 3/4 gallon a day.

I am the kind of person who will see an effect from a carbo within the next morning, wether it be bread, milk or what. About the only two things I have used that dont impact me greatly are old fashioned oatmeal and brown rice, I can stay lean on either of those when using moderate amounts.

 

[Yanick]

This is MO, so nobody shoot me for saying this....but i tend to agree with the article. But not because of the GI of the lactose or whatever, but mostly because as bb'ers we never eat carbs by themselves, they are usually being eaten with ample amounts of protein and fat. GI is pretty useless when talking about whole meals instead of individual foods.

 

[Mudge]

I think it does matter, because it doesn't just mean fit or fat - but slow or fast protein utilization as well.

 

[Premo55]

GI is actually a really overrated way to gauge what carbs are really 'good' for you. Wheat products, lactose and fructose are all 'low' GI, but we all know how these products affect certain individuals if used in excess.

Peace.

 

[MeLo]

Originally posted by Premo55
GI is actually a really overrated way to gauge what carbs are really 'good' for you. Wheat products, lactose and fructose are all 'low' GI, but we all know how these products affect certain individuals if used in excess.

All food (including boiled skinless chicken breast) in excess will make you fat.
and btw, isnt that if a carb has high GI, then it will cause an insulin spike, the hormone which will then THEREFORE make you store fat? If lactose is a low GI carb, if not used in excess(20-30g for most individuals, that's about 3 glasses of milk), why will it make you fat?

 

[Mudge]

GI is only the first step, it may be more usefull for diabetics. For me though it holds fairly true as for a good guideline.

 

[Downtown Guy]

Milk sugar make me fat!

MeLo, it sounds like you really want to drink milk. Since it's a good source of protein, I also wanted to drink the stuff. But the lactose was fattening me up - so I quit drinking it.

These folks are only trying to be helpful. If necessary, find out for yourself. Drink milk! If it causes you to get fat, get off the stuff. You be the judge.

 

[Mudge]

I chub up on milk pretty quickly too.

 

[Premo55]

^^ Exactly, we're only talking from personal experience. If it doesn't make you gain fat, then go ahead and enjoy.

Peace.