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[TrojanMan60563]

I seen that before...what a lame! That was so silly it was almost like a JOKE!

 

[MCx2]

I'm, pretty sure that's from the movie "Never Back Down."

 

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Kimbo Slice vs Ken Shamrock Elite XC main event fight October 4

By: MMAmania

Ken Shamrock (26-13-2)â?????? the 44-year-old mixed martial arts pioneer who has not won a professional fight in more than four years â?????? is the next man to challenge Elite XCâ??????s most coveted possession, Kimbo Slice (3-0), according to Sherdog.com.

The bout will serve as the main event of â?????Saturday Night Fightsâ??? on CBS from the Bank Atlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla., on October 4.

Shamrock was a among a short list of possible opponents for the Miami native that also included Sean Gannon â?????? the only man to defeat the YouTube.com sensation in underground fisticuffs â?????? and Brett Rogers.
Out of the trio Rogers was far and away the most qualified and would have likely given Slice the stiffest competition. However, that could have been the problem â?????? Elite XC matchmakers still feel the need to shamelessly build its biggest star.

And what better way then to have him wallop an over-the-hill, past-his-prime UFC veteran on national television.

Shamrock â?????? a UFC Hall of Fame inductee â?????? dropped his first and most recent bout under the ProElite banner, losing to Robert â?????Buzzâ??? Berry via first knockout at Cage Rage 25: â?????Bring it Onâ??? earlier this year.

That, too, was supposed to be a warm-up for the â?????Worldâ??????s Most Dangerous Manâ??? to groom him for a big money match down the road against either Slice, or his younger brother, Frank.

It seems like it didnâ??????t matter â?????? at least one of those fights (Slice) is going to happen. Although a win against Berry would have made this appear (to the casual fan at least) to be somewhat of a fair fight.

Shamrock has lost eight of his last 10 fights dating back to 2001 and heâ??????s on a five-fight losing skid.

The only thing in his favor going into this fight is experience and his submission game. Shamrock has won more than 80 percent of his fights via submission, which poses somewhat of a threat provided he can get close enough to Slice to take him down.

Donâ??????t count on it. But then again stranger things have happened â???¦ kind of like this match up in the first place.

This is getting silly.

 

[fufu]

I thought I'd see you post this. SOooo stupid. Looks like EXC's last gimmick to get some views before they go kablooey.

 

[AKIRA]

They HAVE TO BE hearing disappoints galore.

 

[Richie1888]

how funny would it be if Shamrock won infact im rooting for Shamrock

 

[fufu]

I see this in huge favor for Shamrock even though is coming from a 5(6?) fight losing streak. All he needs to do is take Kimbo down (easy) and then submit him (easy).

Ken by knee bar.

 

[MCx2]

Kenny boy was handpicked here for sure. One, he's never been good at takedowns, two he's giving up a ton of size, and three, he's stupid enough to stand and trade with Kimbo. Kimbo via quick KO.

 

[fufu]

A stiff breeze will make Kimbo fall on his ass. If Ken can set up a takedown with punches, even if they are shitty, I don't see Kimbo being able to avoid the takedown. That is unless he has vastly improved on his takedown defense.

 

[MCx2]

A stiff breeze will make Kimbo fall on his ass. If Ken can set up a takedown with punches, even if they are shitty, I don't see Kimbo being able to avoid the takedown. That is unless he has vastly improved on his takedown defense.

I don't know if you've seen any of Ken's last few fights, but he's semi-retarded these days. Ken has zero takedown skills and his jaw is like glass. Robert "Buzz" Berry just knocked him into next week a few months ago, a guy that was dominated by UFC reject Colin Robinson and choked out by Dan Severn not long before. I give Ken zero chance in this one.

 

[fufu]

sigh

Well I think he has to the tools. Hopefully this isn't a name for Kimbo to beat.

 

[MCx2]

Hopefully this isn't a name for Kimbo to beat.

That's exactly what this is.

 

[AKIRA]

I just find this a lose lose scenario.

If Ken wins, Ken wont be considered a "come back" person. At least, not to me. Simultaneously, everyone else will say that Kimbo has sucked from the get go.

If Kimbo wins, it will be another half ass win cuz its coming from an old man that has had consecutive losses.

To think that I actually thought Tank would be a good match up for Kimbo. Though we all know the results by now, I never knew how many losses Tank had in his record. Had I known nothing about Tank's interesting wins in the first UFCs and just knew about his record before the fight, I wouldve bet on Kimbo hands down.

 

[MCx2]

I just find this a lose lose scenario.

It's a win/win situation for EliteXC. Ken can't win this fight, he's old, he's slow, he has a glass jaw, he's never had the wrestling skills needed to shine against larger opponents, and Kimbo has a good 30lbs on Ken. They know it and so does every hardcore MMA fan. The thing is, the name Ken Shamrock holds a lot of water in the MMA community and most people will view this as a legit opponent for Kimbo.

Trust me, EliteXC has absolutely zero interest in Ken winning this fight and they don't expect him to win either. It would be a good night though if Ken got Kimbo in an ankle lock and did his crazy WWF face as he did it. WORLDS MOST DANGEROUS MAN IS BACK!!! lol.

 

[AKIRA]

I didnt think of it from Elite's angle, but its an interesting point.

 

[fufu]

yeah that is another thing that got my thinking the fight could be rigged. If they bring in a guy with consecutive losses like Ken and he beats Kimbo it would ruin Kimbo's name and I don't think EXC would want to build up Ken Shamrock in their franchise, he is old and shouldn't be fighting, it wouldn't go anywhere.

Their whole company is supported by toothpicks.

They should spend more time advertising guys like Lawler, Shields and Diaz as their top stars. Shit, they have Shields but you never hear anything about him other than mentioning his fight dates.

 

[MCx2]

They should spend more time advertising guys like Lawler, Shields and Diaz as their top stars. Shit, they have Shields but you never hear anything about him other than mentioning his fight dates.

They've been trying desperately to get KJ Noons back in the ring with Nick Diaz for the title but Noons seems to be ducking.

Poor Shields is stuck, all the good 170lb talent is in the UFC. He's so desperate to fight top guys, just a few weeks ago he was trying to get on the next Affliction card to fight Lindland @ 185 . Paul Daley is no joke though, should be a decent test for him.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Put Kimbo up against a real fighter...Ken is over the hill and like mentioned they expect him to lose. It puts Kimbo up against a name, and not someone with abilities (anymore). I would love to see Kimbo vs a real UFC fighter. IMO Brock could give Kimbo and the viewers a real show. They are both huge non skilled brawlers who like to swing for the fences. Put Kimbo in the ring with a guy that has true talent like Fedor and he isn't even going to last through the 1st round.

Kimbo is nothing but a youtube street fighter that can throw a haymaker. He has never fought anyone that has ever hit him like a real fighter. All his youtube showings are lame as fuck chumps fighting a guy way bigger and stronger with the attempt to make money....and all the fighters in his pro career have been over the hills or nobodys..... Kimbo Slice seems like a nice guy with street cred, and that is about it. He would be picked apart by any top UFC fighter. Too much hype surounding him. He is not on the level of the top UFC guys, or even Pride for that matter.

 

[Goodfella9783]

Wonder if Elite gave Ken a nice purse to take a fall?

 

[MCx2]

Wonder if Elite gave Ken a nice purse to take a fall?

Honestly, I don't think he'd need to.

 

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WEC Could Be Headed to Mexico City - MMA on Tap

WEC Could Be Headed to Mexico City

Aug 27, 2008 1:29 PM John Chandler


Leonard Garcia. Photo property of World Extreme Cagefighting.

If Urijah Faber and Leonard Garcia are victorious in their respective fights at World Extreme Cagefightingâ??????s upcoming September 10 event in Hollywood, Florida, the two could potentially meet in a featherweight title showdown in Mexico.

Garcia revealed on todayâ??????s edition of TAGG Radio that the WEC has already scheduled a press conference featuring himself and Faber for the third week of September in Mexico City, where the WEC may be planning to hold a show in the near future.

â?????Theyâ??????re flying me out six days after the (Pulver) fight to Mexico City to do a press conference and to make a huge announcement,â??? Garcia said on the radio show. â?????As I understand it, both Urijah and I are going...I think both of us just need to hold up our ends of the bargain on Sept. 10.â???

In order for the two to headline the organizationâ??????s first show outside of the United States, they must first pass their respective tests on Sept. 10. Faber is scheduled to make another defense of his WEC featherweight title against American Top Team product Mike Thomas Brown while Garcia will have his hands full against former UFC lightweight champion Jens Pulver.

I guess they're already counting Jens out?

 

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Sources: Randy Couture willing to fight in the UFC once more | MMAjunkie.com

Sources: Randy Couture willing to fight in the UFC once more

by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Aug 28, 2008 at 5:20 pm ET
Reigning UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture could return to the Ultimate Fighting Championship by year's end as part of an out-of-court settlement with the organization.

Multiple sources close to the fighter, speaking exclusively to MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com), today said that Couture is willing to fight once more for the UFC, possibly before the end of the year, as a potentia; resolution to his ongoing legal battles with the fight promotion.

However, Couture himself could not be reached for comment, and it's unknown if the UFC is even considering the offer at this point.

According to one source, as part of Couture's concession to return the octagon, the 45-year-old UFC hall-of-famer would want to walk away "clear and free" from the organization after the bout.

Couture (16-8 MMA, 13-5 UFC), who hasn't fought since a third-round TKO victory over fellow UFC heavyweight Gabriel Gonzaga in August 2007, resigned from the organization two months later over what he perceived to be a lack of respect from UFC officials, issues over his pay, and the UFC's inability to sign then-top free agent Fedor Emelianenko.

However, Zuffa LLC officials believe, per his fight contract, that Couture's next two bouts must be in the UFC. Couture had said that he wanted his resignation upheld so he could move on with his career, including a potential bout with Emelianenko outside the UFC.

Back in February, Couture signed a deal with Mark Cuban's Dallas-based HDNet Fights promotion. The organization then filed suit against the UFC in Dallas district court to get a declaratory judgment concerning the contractual status of Couture. However, earlier this month, a Texas appeals court ruled in favor of Zuffa and granted the organization's request for a stay against the motion.

In conditionally granting the stay, the court effectively deferred the case between Zuffa and Couture to arbitration to determine the fighter's contractual obligations to the UFC.

The ruling all but ensures that this case will be decided by a Nevada arbitrator and not by a Texas court, though it's likely that HDNet will appeal to the Texas Supreme Court. Arbitration between Zuffa and Couture reportedly has been under way in Las Vegas since early July.

Despite Couture's resignation, during a UFC 82 press conference in March, UFC President Dana White said that he had offered Couture a fight with now-interim UFC heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira on two different occasions. Although the fight never came to fruition, White has never ruled out the possibility of Couture returning to the organization.

In the other squabble between the UFC and Couture, the five-time champion's employment contract, which is separate from his fight contract, is the focus of a breach of contract lawsuit filed by Zuffa on Jan. 14 in Las Vegas. Zuffa contends that Couture violated the one-year non-compete clause in his contract by having his name and likeness used to promote fights outside of the UFC.

Couture's UFC employment contract expires on Oct. 11 of this year.

And rumor has it his opponent would be none other than Brock Lesnar.

 

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand.......

It's official: Randy Couture returning to UFC, fights Brock Lesnar at UFC 91

by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Sep 02, 2008 at 4:17 pm ET
After a very public split with the organization back in October, reigning UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture has agreed to return to the UFC, and he'll meet Brock Lesnar in a UFC 91 championship bout with Brock Lesnar.

UFC President Dana White today confirmed the news in a media conference call.

White also confirmed that UFC 91 will take place Nov. 15 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas -- not at the Rose Garden Arena in Portland, Ore., as first expected.

As part of Couture's return to competition, White confirmed that their ongoing legal battle has been resolved.

"I think some compromises were made on both sides," Couture said.

"All I give a [expletive] about is that he's back and fighting," White said.

White also confirmed that the winner of an upcoming fight between interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira and Frank Mir will meet the Couture vs. Lesnar winner sometime in 2009 to unify the titles.

Brock via Donkey Kong style beatdown.

 

[fufu]

finally some verdict to this Couture bs.

 

[BoneCrusher]

Hello everyone. Good to see all the usual suspects lingering around here still. Makes it all homey like.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaand.......

Brock via Donkey Kong style beatdown.

The imagery of Brock and Randy you just created had me lmfao


But seriously ... do we know if Brock can take a punch yet? I would think Mir would've provided him with a chin-check, but I don't recall that happening. There was a lot of hand flailing and attempts to run away as Brock chased Mir around, but I just can't remember if Mir actually got to tag that 1959 Cadillac bumper sized chin on Brock. With Randy, he'll get his chin examined within the first 20 seconds.

Since Sapp still insists on trying to fight in MMA, can we get a Brock vs Sapp on the schedule? It would be a fast and comical extinction of Sapp, but hey ... the UFC is all about the entertainment and I really like to see Sapp get beat up.

And finally, who wins in a Brock vs Fedor match up?

 

[MCx2]

Hello everyone. Good to see all the usual suspects lingering around here still. Makes it all homey like.



The imagery of Brock and Randy you just created had me lmfao


But seriously ... do we know if Brock can take a punch yet? I would think Mir would've provided him with a chin-check, but I don't recall that happening. There was a lot of hand flailing and attempts to run away as Brock chased Mir around, but I just can't remember if Mir actually got to tag that 1959 Cadillac bumper sized chin on Brock. With Randy, he'll get his chin examined within the first 20 seconds.

Since Sapp still insists on trying to fight in MMA, can we get a Brock vs Sapp on the schedule? It would be a fast and comical extinction of Sapp, but hey ... the UFC is all about the entertainment and I really like to see Sapp get beat up.

And finally, who wins in a Brock vs Fedor match up?

There he is! I was starting to wonder if you went on walkabout again on us.

Honestly? I think Randy is in real trouble here. I don't know if it experience matters considering Brock outweighs Randy by ohhh 60 pounds come fight time. He's obviously bigger and stronger than Randy, but the thing Brock has going for him is he's probably faster than Randy too. That's a crazy thing to say about a 290lb man comparing him to a man that will come in fight time at 225lbs. Not to mention wrestling won't be saving Randy this time.

As for Brock vs. Fedor? As of right now I'd have to say Fedor survives the initial onslaught and takes a Lesnar limb home for a souvenir. But... If Brock proves to be patient enough in his attacks to get through Couture, and more importantly Big Nog? I got Brock all day. He's just too big, fast and strong.

 

[MCx2]

Man, this thing is already starting to gain steam:

Couture And Lesnar Set For UFC 91 Showdown - ESPN Video

 

[AKIRA]

Yeah I saw that on this morning. Pretty excited to see ESPN taking this shit seriously now.

 

[MCx2]

Yeah I saw that on this morning. Pretty excited to see ESPN taking this shit seriously now.

Yeah, it's pretty exciting. I have a feeling his fight will put MMA on the map for good in the USA. This match is huge.

 

[BoneCrusher]

There he is! I was starting to wonder if you went on walkabout again on us.

Honestly? I think Randy is in real trouble here. I don't know if it experience matters considering Brock outweighs Randy by ohhh 60 pounds come fight time. He's obviously bigger and stronger than Randy, but the thing Brock has going for him is he's probably faster than Randy too. That's a crazy thing to say about a 290lb man comparing him to a man that will come in fight time at 225lbs. Not to mention wrestling won't be saving Randy this time.

As for Brock vs. Fedor? As of right now I'd have to say Fedor survives the initial onslaught and takes a Lesnar limb home for a souvenir. But... If Brock proves to be patient enough in his attacks to get through Couture, and more importantly Big Nog? I got Brock all day. He's just too big, fast and strong.

Nah I'm still here.

I did get my ass handed to me from above for my log though which totally sux ass, but steel is my friend again .

I'm busier than a one legged man in an ass kickin' contest right now so posting is not high on the todo list, buuuuuut I do very much like the balanced opinion and and behavior here in this thread so I read it even when I have no time to post. I figure that if ReproBro didn't post on it, it ain't worth hearing about.

I'm not tracking with you on that speed theory you have between Brock and Randy ...