most supplements are nonsense and a waste

[btex34n88]

that is for those who rely on steroids and other hormonal junk: you know that pros spend thousand of dollars each month on medical assistance and they are backed up by doctors etc... and still they die young...and unfortunately our youth going to the gym are taking more crap than pros with no medical assistance, without knowing the source of the junk they are taking, and with no medical examinations, they are encouraged by some older idiot who could care less and who prescribes to them tons of shit that he took from some site on the internet that promotes steroid use. by the way the internet is a dangerous thing, i know for a fact about articles released on internet that have to do with my expertise (biomedical engineering) and that are total crap : internet does not mean it is true.

This is a bodybuilding forum, not a sympathy forum. If you would have properly pct'd you wouldnt have gotten so emotional from the estrogen rebound. Your little discussion on adults advising kids to take gear is rediculous. Kids will take whatever they want, drink whatever, smoke whatever without any concern for health. You live, you learn and deal with the mistakes you've made. Apparently you know alot of steroid abusers who have died young, sorry to say i dont know any personally.

 

[squigader]

that is for those who rely on steroids and other hormonal junk: you know that pros spend thousand of dollars each month on medical assistance and they are backed up by doctors etc... and still they die young...and unfortunately our youth going to the gym are taking more crap than pros with no medical assistance, without knowing the source of the junk they are taking, and with no medical examinations, they are encouraged by some older idiot who could care less and who prescribes to them tons of shit that he took from some site on the internet that promotes steroid use. by the way the internet is a dangerous thing, i know for a fact about articles released on internet that have to do with my expertise (biomedical engineering) and that are total crap : internet does not mean it is true.

There is a difference between 500mg of test a week and the doses the pros use ( http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/55960-dorian-yatess-s-cycle.html - this was from the 80s btw! ). Also, there is nothing wrong with creatine, it has been proven to be safe, and it is good for vegans, the old, and bodybuilders.

I agree with you about the supplement industry being too big and the amount of crap being pushed out these days like jacked and that crap.

 

[bjg]

i would destroy your son with his black girly belt. I knew a few "judo blackbelts", they always seemed to cry during fights

dude this is not the subject but before talking about a martial art i recommend searching about it.

 

[bjg]

There is a difference between 500mg of test a week and the doses the pros use ( http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/55960-dorian-yatess-s-cycle.html - this was from the 80s btw! ). Also, there is nothing wrong with creatine, it has been proven to be safe, and it is good for vegans, the old, and bodybuilders.

I agree with you about the supplement industry being too big and the amount of crap being pushed out these days like jacked and that crap.

supplements are like those creams women waste on their faces ,,they are backed by scientific research but do they ever work?

 

[bjg]

This is a bodybuilding forum, not a sympathy forum. If you would have properly pct'd you wouldnt have gotten so emotional from the estrogen rebound. Your little discussion on adults advising kids to take gear is rediculous. Kids will take whatever they want, drink whatever, smoke whatever without any concern for health. You live, you learn and deal with the mistakes you've made. Apparently you know alot of steroid abusers who have died young, sorry to say i dont know any personally.

sorry man but i do know people who got messed up with steroidsd especially with that new junk called synthol which is absolutely the biggest ridiculous bullshit in bodybuilding history .....killing you is not going to happen in a month, it is a slow process until you find out it is too late.. trust me i lost a good friend..that is not the story ..kids taking whatever they want is a bullshit comment ..kids must be taught the right thing it is my responsibility as an older bodybuilder. i do respect the efforts people like big olympia champions put into their workouts but i do not respect probodybuilding as a sport. i think mr. olympia and competitions like that should be banned. why? it is because it is only there to make money and for false advertising, misleading the young bodybuilders and encouraging them to go the wrong path..it is the responsibility of any famous athlete to be a role model because he is admired by many young people. ask any famous pro if he would let his son take roids etc... and yet he does it...
most bodybuilders (so called) might disagree because they might want to build muscles at any price but still deep you know it is cheating.

 

[gearin up]

that is for those who rely on steroids and other hormonal junk: you know that pros spend thousand of dollars each month on medical assistance and they are backed up by doctors etc... and still they die young...and unfortunately our youth going to the gym are taking more crap than pros with no medical assistance, without knowing the source of the junk they are taking, and with no medical examinations, they are encouraged by some older idiot who could care less and who prescribes to them tons of shit that he took from some site on the internet that promotes steroid use. by the way the internet is a dangerous thing, i know for a fact about articles released on internet that have to do with my expertise (biomedical engineering) and that are total crap : internet does not mean it is true.

so you are a bio medical engineer and dont know the difference between site enhancing oil and anabolic androgenic steroids. Where the hell did you get your degree??

 

[gearin up]

ok Ive read back through all of your replies, you have flip flopped on the use of creatine, you have agreed that there are bodybuilders older than you but then say they all die young, you dont know the difference between synthol and aas but insist you have a medical degree, you tell everyone that your son can kick their fat asses but then say this is not the topic and you say that Franco has had many surgeries but dont offer any proof. You have back pedaled, lied, proved that you lack reading comprehension. Are you even a real person??

 

[chucky1]

your on the wrong form buddy

Again for all who do not believe me ...i have pro bodybuliders as friends and most of them if not all of my age (50 years old) where substance abusers, and supplements etc.... guess what: at 50 they have no chance against me...and by the way for those who can only respond by insults blah blah blah...i am a university professor and i know how research is done and how articles are published .... and by the way my son is 18 and never lifted weights and probably can kick your fat asses anytime it will take him few seconds (black belt judo ) so am i. .
so back to our subject: all my friends who used substances like steroids and all kinds of hormones and even mild things like creatine , they all regret it ..when did they realize their stupidity? when it was a bit late. For those psychotics who use steroids etc... look at arnold he looks now as if he never lifted weights, my dad who is 82 looks much much better than him.

 

[btex34n88]

what about the nfl and baseball? do we ban those as well since the majority use steroids? Bodybuilding is a sport and if you dont like what goes into it then dont participate. Your opinion isnt going to change anyone's mind. Perhaps i will die when im 60, but so will the fatass overweight people who dont take care of themselves. No one can determine how long they will live, this is what i enjoy doing and negative stats on steroids will not change my mind.

 

[btex34n88]

sorry man but i do know people who got messed up with steroidsd especially with that new junk called synthol which is absolutely the biggest ridiculous bullshit in bodybuilding history .....killing you is not going to happen in a month, it is a slow process until you find out it is too late.. trust me i lost a good friend..that is not the story ..kids taking whatever they want is a bullshit comment ..kids must be taught the right thing it is my responsibility as an older bodybuilder. i do respect the efforts people like big olympia champions put into their workouts but i do not respect probodybuilding as a sport. i think mr. olympia and competitions like that should be banned. why? it is because it is only there to make money and for false advertising, misleading the young bodybuilders and encouraging them to go the wrong path..it is the responsibility of any famous athlete to be a role model because he is admired by many young people. ask any famous pro if he would let his son take roids etc... and yet he does it...
most bodybuilders (so called) might disagree because they might want to build muscles at any price but still deep you know it is cheating.

your idea of leading kids in the right direction is a fairytale you have put in your head. I knew the side effects of taking steroids, was warned along with other friends. At that age you just dont understand how to listen to good advice. Steroids at a young age are bad, but as an adult its your decision on what you take. There are kids that might listen out of fear, but i dont recall understanding fear or giving a flying f' at that time

 

[bjg]

who said i don't know the difference between synthol and steroids....learn how to read

 

[gearin up]

sorry man but i do know people who got messed up with steroidsd especially with that new junk called synthol

This was pretty clear in context. If its not what you meant then you should learn how to write. All you had to do to show the distinction was add in an,"also" or an, "and", In the place of "especially". An educated man, Which you are not, Would know that.

 

[banker23]

Also post a pic of your dad. I want to see this 82 yo who looks better than Arnie.

x2, arnold still looks like a tank all things considered.