Muscle size increase - when?

[Tryin2bBig]

I ve been workingout over 4 months. 5'8" 165lbs currently. Doing M-Chest, W-Biceps/Triceps, F-Shoulders/Back. T/TH-Cardio. Chest gain is around 1 inch, while bicepts/tricepts gain is < 1 inch. I get 100gm of protien from shake/bar and the rest from food (total=200gm) I am not looking to be arnold type, but just wanna get a bit bigger/muscular. Can you guys comment what am I doing wrong here? What time frame targests do you guys set around and go about achieving it?
Thanx again.

 

[P-funk]

train your legs....maybe you will grow,.

eat more, maybe you will grow.

stop doing cardio,..mayb you will grow.

change your program....maybe you will grow

educate yourself.....maybe you will grow.

 

[Vieope]

I am not looking to be arnold type

Good you figured that out.



Well it takes time to find out the best program to you.

 

[ihateschoolmt]

Post your diet in the diet section and maybe you will grow.

 

[SlimShady]

Eat a lot more food. Period.

 

[ZAGLOBA]

take some steroids maybe you'll grow

 

[King Silverback]

100% agree with P-Funk!!!

 

[Tryin2bBig]

train your legs....maybe you will grow,.

I wanna get a bigger upper body. For the legs--- dats why I do cardio.

eat more, maybe you will grow.

I will try to eat wisely. Jut NOT more.

stop doing cardio,..mayb you will grow.

Hmm...not even twice or once a week?

change your program....maybe you will grow

Sorry mate, prgm is fine, I ll post in the diet threads.

educate yourself.....maybe you will grow.

Thats why I m here! "Maybe" other members will better educate me

Thanks and no thanks for your maybes

 

[King Silverback]

Do legs and your upper body WILL grow. Thats his point!!!

 

[P-funk]

I wanna get a bigger upper body. For the legs- dats why I do cardio.


I will try to eat wisely. Jut NOT more.


Hmm...not even twice or once a week?


Sorry mate, prgm is fine, I ll post in the diet threads.


Thats why I m here! "Myabe" other members will better educate me

Thanks and no thanks for your maybes

you do carido for legs???


you want to eat wisely just not more? how do you expect to gain muscle?

why are you doing so much cardio if you are trying to gain size?


ah, program is fine.



Well, sounds like you got it all figured out there chap. Really hope things work out for you. Maybe other will help you out. I put up the maybes as somethings to think about, not to be an asshole. I try and help people here. Since you are a know it all prick then tell me this.....why the fuck are you asking questions?

 

[Tryin2bBig]

Wow...really? Will definately involve weights and legs, and reduce the cardio. Thanks!

 

[P-funk]

oh, and legs will make your upper body grow to.....but I bet you already knew that.

 

[Tryin2bBig]

I said program is fine as a certified guy has made that up. Now I know you might not agree with the prgm, but I guess different people might fit in different programs.

 

[P-funk]

I said program is fine as a certified guy has made that up. Now I know you might not agree with the prgm, but I guess different people might fit in different programs.

yes, those certified guys are usually pretty smart when it comes to this stuff.

 

[P-funk]

amazing that he doesn't have you training legs. bet he really knows what he is talking about.

 

[Tryin2bBig]

oh, and legs will make your upper body grow to.....but I bet you already knew that.

No I didnt. The person who made the prgm did include working the legs, it was the "uneducated" me that made the descision to take out weights and legs. Now I know my mistake. Thanks

 

[P-funk]

No I didnt. The person who made the prgm did include working the legs, it was the "uneducated" me that made the descision to take out weights and legs. Now I know my mistake. Thanks

ah, so you do have something to learn.


welcome to IM.

 

[King Silverback]

Hey P, aren't you certified???

 

[P-funk]

Hey P, aren't you certified???

sssssssshhhhh........don't tell anyone. it is not something i am proud of.

 

[King Silverback]

sssssssshhhhh........don't tell anyone. it is not something i am proud of.

Secrets safe with me!!!

 

[ihateschoolmt]

I said program is fine as a certified guy has made that up. Now I know you might not agree with the prgm, but I guess different people might fit in different programs.

Changing your program is a way to shock your body. Your body adapts to a program every couple months. When it adapts it makes it harder to gain muscle. You have to change your program to keep your body guessing. Post your training program, you never know if someone knows what there talking about or not.

 

[CowPimp]

You don't necessarily have to cut out your cardio. I would just limit your session to 20 minutes or less to reduce the chance of your body turning to muscle for an energy source. I typically do cardio 1-3 days a week year round, but I usually make the sessions in the 15-20 minute range at a higher level of intensity.

Training your legs is very important. If you don't train your legs, then you're missing out on the massive release of HGH (Human Growth Hormone) that the core lifts like squats and deadlifts can stimulate.

Eating food is paramount. If you are not eating in a caloric excess, then your body does not have the extra energy and "materials" to devote to building muscle. It has to use all it's resources just to keep you going throughout the day.

 

[LAM]

Your body adapts to a program every couple weeks.

wrong

 

[vegman]

wrong

how is that wrong? I'm not saying it's right; I just want to know.

 

[Mudge]

How is it wrong? I've proved it to myself many times over. I occasionally make small changes to my program, but to say every couple weeks is crazy.

Some people change their program every 4, or 12 weeks - but every couple? Never heard of it myself.

Increased CALORIC intake = increased size. Quality of the food, and controlling total calories helps determine where that size goes.

 

[CowPimp]

how is that wrong? I'm not saying it's right; I just want to know.

As long as your are progressing in terms of resistance, your body will not be able to fully adapt. For example, Duncans Donuts typically maintains the same routine for months at a time. The reason he continues to get bigger and stronger is because of progressive resistance.

 

[Digger]

wow i learned something new today didnt know working your legs helped your upper body grow, im glad i read this thread im gona hit my legs alot harder

 

[min0 lee]

Training your legs is very important. If you don't train your legs, then you're missing out on the massive release of HGH (Human Growth Hormone) that the core lifts like squats and deadlifts can stimulate.

I agree 100% that comment. I had to stop doing legs for a while, don't get me wrong I excel in legs but they seem to outgrow all of my body parts.
The funny thing is when I stopped doing legs I also felt like I stopped growing, my lifts just stagnated.
Long story short, I started doing legs (Squats, leg press) again and now it's crazy the way I am growing.
I also noticed it increased my sex drive.....strange isn't it.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

For example, Duncans Donuts typically maintains the same routine for months at a time

Indeed, I did that for a long time, but now I'm adjusting nearly everything every 3-4 weeks while maintaining HIT - just not consolidated HIT (ala Mike Mentzer). In fact, I occasionally incorporate greater volume (greater by my standards), frequency, intensity, etc. - I now more capably understand CNS function and how to dodge "negative" effects of it, and have since been able to progress hypertrophy-wise wherein before I had stagnated for a while.

Sadly, my equation of progressive overload = size + progress was only partially accurate, and as all intelligent people should do, when my understanding evolved so did my application of it..

 

[ihateschoolmt]

How is it wrong? I've proved it to myself many times over. I occasionally make small changes to my program, but to say every couple weeks is crazy.

Some people change their program every 4, or 12 weeks - but every couple? Never heard of it myself.

Increased CALORIC intake = increased size. Quality of the food, and controlling total calories helps determine where that size goes.

Sorry I ment months.