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Pirate, suppose you ran a 5mg-10mg-15mg e/d m1t cycle for 3 weeks, raising the dose weekly. How much 6-oxo would you run and for how long? I've got one bottle, would I need to buy just one more or two more? I've already got my M1T, which happens to be coupled with 5-ad at 50mg per 10 mg of M1T.PirateFromHell said:Good choice with the 6-oxo. Best OTC for PCT. Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) is better, but you must get in from out of the country. It is a prescription drug. Glad you didn't kill yourself over the accutane ordeal. One of my friends had a shotgun in hand ready to do the deed when I showed up. Then again, being a teen can be tough without drugs that make you feel life is hopeless. That was over ten years ago. He is doing great now.
RCfootball87 said:Pirate, suppose you ran a 5mg-10mg-15mg e/d m1t cycle for 3 weeks, raising the dose weekly. How much 6-oxo would you run and for how long? I've got one bottle, would I need to buy just one more or two more? I've already got my M1T, which happens to be coupled with 5-ad at 50mg per 10 mg of M1T.
6-oxo is not nearly adequate enough for a harsh oral steroid like M1T. I have run M1T up to as much as 25mg's, which was way to much, so I cut it back, and just smelling the pills shuts me down big time. You need nolvadex for an anabolic steroid. 6-oxo is only good for 1-ad IMO.RCfootball87 said:Pirate, suppose you ran a 5mg-10mg-15mg e/d m1t cycle for 3 weeks, raising the dose weekly. How much 6-oxo would you run and for how long? I've got one bottle, would I need to buy just one more or two more? I've already got my M1T, which happens to be coupled with 5-ad at 50mg per 10 mg of M1T.
be careful with overtraining during PCT. Your gains may be going up now, but soon your test levels will drop to the depths of hell, so just be ready for that.APG said:I know that nolva is a must for M1t, for personal reasons (previously discussed) I came off cycle after 15 days @10mg ED. I am now 3 days into PCT taking 6 oxo at 600mg ED plus 4 500mg of milk thistle ED. I am still up 10lbs with less BF than when I started and my strength is still going up. Last chest w/o I bench pressed 286 lbs (130kg) to chest with 5 second delay (power lifting training) for 8 reps. Up to now no signs of gyno, will post updates. Just posting my gains with 15 days of M1T![]()
I don't want nolva shipped to my house, my parents might wonder what's goin' on. I don't even think they'd care that much actually, cause they've caught me doing worse things, but they wouldn't be happy about it that's for sure. So 6-oxo isn't ok but yet everyone who used it says it's ok? I'm fine as long as I don't get gyno right? Isn't gyno like a one in a thousand shot with M1T anyways?LW83 said:Dont' even think about running m1t without tamox.
How will it effect me?APG said:any ways you are too young (under 21) so should not touch M1T regardless. Just eat quality food and train. DO NOT mess with your hormone levels you WILL regret it in later life![]()
Do a google search for teen steroid use and you'll see the effects. Typically you risk closure of growth plates, loss of libido/erectile problems, and problems with your endocrine system. Just stick with solid training and diet before you start with powerful steroids.RCfootball87 said:How will it effect me?
My growth plates are already closed I think, I'm two inches taller than my dad, my mom's short. and I've used pro-hormones multiple times. They didn't really effect my libido too much, they certainly didn't come close to stopping it. I'm concerned with these "endocrine system problems" is that referring to an enlarged prostrate or something of that nature?redspy said:Do a google search for teen steroid use and you'll see the effects. Typically you risk closure of growth plates, loss of libido/erectile problems, and problems with your endocrine system. Just stick with solid training and diet before you start with powerful steroids.
bro, you are only 17. You shouldn't even consider using prohormones, let alone steroids, which is what M1T is. Go to a doctor and tell him your plans and see what he says. Doctors aren't your enemy, they are there to help. I went to a doctor and told him everything I was taking on my current cycle, and had blood work, urine analysis, scrotal examination, and an EKG and the doctor said I was in perfect shape and then told me "I can't condone it, but you are going about it the correct way". Im not trying to be an ass, but your doing some stupid stuff by having a few prohormone cycles under your belt by the age of 17, and are now considering a cycle of steroids. Just because M1T is a pill doesn't mean it isn't an anabolic steroid, because it is. Wise up kid before you do irreversible damage to your body.RCfootball87 said:My growth plates are already closed I think, I'm two inches taller than my dad, my mom's short. and I've used pro-hormones multiple times. They didn't really effect my libido too much, they certainly didn't come close to stopping it. I'm concerned with these "endocrine system problems" is that referring to an enlarged prostrate or something of that nature?
Maybe I won't run the M1T. I'm still debating. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do, I'm definetly gonna run it when I'm 21 if I don't run it now, but I'm not sure.gococksDJS said:bro, you are only 17. You shouldn't even consider using prohormones, let alone steroids, which is what M1T is. Go to a doctor and tell him your plans and see what he says. Doctors aren't your enemy, they are there to help. I went to a doctor and told him everything I was taking on my current cycle, and had blood work, urine analysis, scrotal examination, and an EKG and the doctor said I was in perfect shape and then told me "I can't condone it, but you are going about it the correct way". Im not trying to be an ass, but your doing some stupid stuff by having a few prohormone cycles under your belt by the age of 17, and are now considering a cycle of steroids. Just because M1T is a pill doesn't mean it isn't an anabolic steroid, because it is. Wise up kid before you do irreversible damage to your body.
Animal Stak is shit. I've taken 1-AD, 4-AD, and 19-nor-4-diol and 19-nordione. Aside from pro-hormones I've taken trib, saw palmetto, and chrysin while on cycles.soxmuscle said:A freind of mine who was on Animal Stak for a long, long time now cannot get an erection. He has to use Viagra everytime he wants a hard-on. Pro-hormones for teenagers is just a bad idea.
What kind of prohormones have you taken?
RCfootball87 said:Animal Stak is shit. I've taken 1-AD, 4-AD, and 19-nor-4-diol and 19-nordione. Aside from pro-hormones I've taken trib, saw palmetto, and chrysin while on cycles.
Yeah, but it costs money to go to a doctor and have all that shit checked out. Lot's of cash if you an uninsured teenager.gococksDJS said:bro, you are only 17. You shouldn't even consider using prohormones, let alone steroids, which is what M1T is. Go to a doctor and tell him your plans and see what he says. Doctors aren't your enemy, they are there to help. I went to a doctor and told him everything I was taking on my current cycle, and had blood work, urine analysis, scrotal examination, and an EKG and the doctor said I was in perfect shape and then told me "I can't condone it, but you are going about it the correct way". Im not trying to be an ass, but your doing some stupid stuff by having a few prohormone cycles under your belt by the age of 17, and are now considering a cycle of steroids. Just because M1T is a pill doesn't mean it isn't an anabolic steroid, because it is. Wise up kid before you do irreversible damage to your body.
If your parents have a family plan, it covers you as well, and all you have to pay is a $20 fee. IMO if your not willing to pay to make sure you are healthy, you should not risk running anabolics. No anabolic cycle is worth you own well-being.RCfootball87 said:Yeah, but it costs money to go to a doctor and have all that shit checked out. Lot's of cash if you an uninsured teenager.
LW83 said:Read up on your diet. Right now, i am growing FASTER and stronger than I did on ANY cycle.
You think they'd give my parents a call?gococksDJS said:If your parents have a family plan, it covers you as well, and all you have to pay is a $20 fee. IMO if your not willing to pay to make sure you are healthy, you should not risk running anabolics. No anabolic cycle is worth you own well-being.
everything between you and your doctor is confidential by law, but he will tell you what we are telling you. You are way to young to be doing this shit. Im not sure which is worse, the fact that you want to use an anabolic steroid or the fact that you have already done several pro-hormone cycles at the age of 17. If you gave a shit about yourself you would put down the AAS and PH's until you were at least 22.RCfootball87 said:You think they'd give my parents a call?