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Sorry for the ignorance, but what is PCT and nox3?

Thanx.
 
PCT

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=27368

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=21575

NOX3 (courtesy Google)



NOX3: The Only Triple-Action Vasodilator
Nitric oxide... The "Perpetual Pump..." Cell-signaling vasodilators... You've heard about it, now it's time to add it to your training program. What is vasodilation? In plain English, it's when blood vessels dilate or relax. When blood vessels relax, they widen. Nitric oxide (NO) is the key here. NO is an important endogenous pulmonary vasodilator. As a vasodilator, nitric oxide has the ability to increase your body's ability to delivery blood to working muscles. More blood means more oxygen and nutrients that are being pumped into skeletal muscles. All this translates into bigger, fuller pumps and better overall gains. In fact, with NO, you can expect increased muscle size, strength, endurance, and quicker recovery times.
  • The only Triple-Action NO Formula Available
  • Extended Release Vasodilator
  • Advenced Delivery System
  • Contains Arginine - KIC, Ornithine - AKG, & Arginine - AKG
  • Maximum Nitric Oxide
Unlike other formulas which only contain arginine alpha-ketoglutarate and possibly arginine ketoisocaproate, NOX3 contains the powerful third ingredient, ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate. Only NOX3 has arginine AKG, arginine KIC, and ornithine AKG. With this triple potency formula, only NOX3 can also decrease muscle catabolism and potentiate growth hormone (GH) function through the powerful ornithine-arginine combination. NOX3 is a super-charged nitric oxide supplement which you should have in your arsenal.
 
WHoa. Blast from the past.

I'm kind've glad this came up.

Now that i have *alittle more expirience. I'd like to say that after 2 M1t cycles, MDien, 1-t, and a couple others NOTHING works as good, and will make you FEEL as good as a good clean diet.

Anybody reading up on these types of supplements should take alook at themselves first.
 
PirateFromHell said:
Good choice with the 6-oxo. Best OTC for PCT. Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) is better, but you must get in from out of the country. It is a prescription drug. Glad you didn't kill yourself over the accutane ordeal. One of my friends had a shotgun in hand ready to do the deed when I showed up. Then again, being a teen can be tough without drugs that make you feel life is hopeless. That was over ten years ago. He is doing great now.
Pirate, suppose you ran a 5mg-10mg-15mg e/d m1t cycle for 3 weeks, raising the dose weekly. How much 6-oxo would you run and for how long? I've got one bottle, would I need to buy just one more or two more? I've already got my M1T, which happens to be coupled with 5-ad at 50mg per 10 mg of M1T.
 
RCfootball87 said:
Pirate, suppose you ran a 5mg-10mg-15mg e/d m1t cycle for 3 weeks, raising the dose weekly. How much 6-oxo would you run and for how long? I've got one bottle, would I need to buy just one more or two more? I've already got my M1T, which happens to be coupled with 5-ad at 50mg per 10 mg of M1T.


Dont' even think about running m1t without tamox.
 
RCfootball87 said:
Pirate, suppose you ran a 5mg-10mg-15mg e/d m1t cycle for 3 weeks, raising the dose weekly. How much 6-oxo would you run and for how long? I've got one bottle, would I need to buy just one more or two more? I've already got my M1T, which happens to be coupled with 5-ad at 50mg per 10 mg of M1T.
6-oxo is not nearly adequate enough for a harsh oral steroid like M1T. I have run M1T up to as much as 25mg's, which was way to much, so I cut it back, and just smelling the pills shuts me down big time. You need nolvadex for an anabolic steroid. 6-oxo is only good for 1-ad IMO.
 
I know that nolva is a must for M1t, for personal reasons (previously discussed) I came off cycle after 15 days @10mg ED. I am now 3 days into PCT taking 6 oxo at 600mg ED plus 4 500mg of milk thistle ED. I am still up 10lbs with less BF than when I started and my strength is still going up. Last chest w/o I bench pressed 286 lbs (130kg) to chest with 5 second delay (power lifting training) for 8 reps. Up to now no signs of gyno, will post updates. Just posting my gains with 15 days of M1T :thumb:
 
APG said:
I know that nolva is a must for M1t, for personal reasons (previously discussed) I came off cycle after 15 days @10mg ED. I am now 3 days into PCT taking 6 oxo at 600mg ED plus 4 500mg of milk thistle ED. I am still up 10lbs with less BF than when I started and my strength is still going up. Last chest w/o I bench pressed 286 lbs (130kg) to chest with 5 second delay (power lifting training) for 8 reps. Up to now no signs of gyno, will post updates. Just posting my gains with 15 days of M1T :thumb:
be careful with overtraining during PCT. Your gains may be going up now, but soon your test levels will drop to the depths of hell, so just be ready for that.
 
gococksDJS when can I expect this to happen, I thought it would be good to concentrate on compound movements as they release test is this correct :hmmm:
 
LW83 said:
Dont' even think about running m1t without tamox.
I don't want nolva shipped to my house, my parents might wonder what's goin' on. I don't even think they'd care that much actually, cause they've caught me doing worse things, but they wouldn't be happy about it that's for sure. So 6-oxo isn't ok but yet everyone who used it says it's ok? I'm fine as long as I don't get gyno right? Isn't gyno like a one in a thousand shot with M1T anyways?
 
I don't know the odds but nolva specifically targets breast tissue, most people on this board would not advise using any over the counter supp for PCT
 
any ways you are too young (under 21) so should not touch M1T regardless. Just eat quality food and train. DO NOT mess with your hormone levels you WILL regret it in later life :finger:
 
APG said:
any ways you are too young (under 21) so should not touch M1T regardless. Just eat quality food and train. DO NOT mess with your hormone levels you WILL regret it in later life :finger:
How will it effect me?
 
RCfootball87 said:
How will it effect me?
Do a google search for teen steroid use and you'll see the effects. Typically you risk closure of growth plates, loss of libido/erectile problems, and problems with your endocrine system. Just stick with solid training and diet before you start with powerful steroids.
 
I am no expert but M1T shuts down your natural test production so after you finish your cycle you will have very low test production and estrogen production will increase to compensate. Do a search, hopefully other members can provide a better answer. At your age your test levels are high any way if you require advice on your training or diet you will get help. I am just trying to advise you of the serious health consequences that could result if you take M1t
 
redspy said:
Do a google search for teen steroid use and you'll see the effects. Typically you risk closure of growth plates, loss of libido/erectile problems, and problems with your endocrine system. Just stick with solid training and diet before you start with powerful steroids.
My growth plates are already closed I think, I'm two inches taller than my dad, my mom's short. and I've used pro-hormones multiple times. They didn't really effect my libido too much, they certainly didn't come close to stopping it. I'm concerned with these "endocrine system problems" is that referring to an enlarged prostrate or something of that nature?
 
RCfootball87 said:
My growth plates are already closed I think, I'm two inches taller than my dad, my mom's short. and I've used pro-hormones multiple times. They didn't really effect my libido too much, they certainly didn't come close to stopping it. I'm concerned with these "endocrine system problems" is that referring to an enlarged prostrate or something of that nature?
bro, you are only 17. You shouldn't even consider using prohormones, let alone steroids, which is what M1T is. Go to a doctor and tell him your plans and see what he says. Doctors aren't your enemy, they are there to help. I went to a doctor and told him everything I was taking on my current cycle, and had blood work, urine analysis, scrotal examination, and an EKG and the doctor said I was in perfect shape and then told me "I can't condone it, but you are going about it the correct way". Im not trying to be an ass, but your doing some stupid stuff by having a few prohormone cycles under your belt by the age of 17, and are now considering a cycle of steroids. Just because M1T is a pill doesn't mean it isn't an anabolic steroid, because it is. Wise up kid before you do irreversible damage to your body.
 
A freind of mine who was on Animal Stak for a long, long time now cannot get an erection. He has to use Viagra everytime he wants a hard-on. Pro-hormones for teenagers is just a bad idea.

What kind of prohormones have you taken?
 
gococksDJS said:
bro, you are only 17. You shouldn't even consider using prohormones, let alone steroids, which is what M1T is. Go to a doctor and tell him your plans and see what he says. Doctors aren't your enemy, they are there to help. I went to a doctor and told him everything I was taking on my current cycle, and had blood work, urine analysis, scrotal examination, and an EKG and the doctor said I was in perfect shape and then told me "I can't condone it, but you are going about it the correct way". Im not trying to be an ass, but your doing some stupid stuff by having a few prohormone cycles under your belt by the age of 17, and are now considering a cycle of steroids. Just because M1T is a pill doesn't mean it isn't an anabolic steroid, because it is. Wise up kid before you do irreversible damage to your body.
Maybe I won't run the M1T. I'm still debating. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do, I'm definetly gonna run it when I'm 21 if I don't run it now, but I'm not sure.
 
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soxmuscle said:
A freind of mine who was on Animal Stak for a long, long time now cannot get an erection. He has to use Viagra everytime he wants a hard-on. Pro-hormones for teenagers is just a bad idea.

What kind of prohormones have you taken?
Animal Stak is shit. I've taken 1-AD, 4-AD, and 19-nor-4-diol and 19-nordione. Aside from pro-hormones I've taken trib, saw palmetto, and chrysin while on cycles.
 
RCfootball87 said:
Animal Stak is shit. I've taken 1-AD, 4-AD, and 19-nor-4-diol and 19-nordione. Aside from pro-hormones I've taken trib, saw palmetto, and chrysin while on cycles.


Read up on your diet. Right now, i am growing FASTER and stronger than I did on ANY cycle.
 
gococksDJS said:
bro, you are only 17. You shouldn't even consider using prohormones, let alone steroids, which is what M1T is. Go to a doctor and tell him your plans and see what he says. Doctors aren't your enemy, they are there to help. I went to a doctor and told him everything I was taking on my current cycle, and had blood work, urine analysis, scrotal examination, and an EKG and the doctor said I was in perfect shape and then told me "I can't condone it, but you are going about it the correct way". Im not trying to be an ass, but your doing some stupid stuff by having a few prohormone cycles under your belt by the age of 17, and are now considering a cycle of steroids. Just because M1T is a pill doesn't mean it isn't an anabolic steroid, because it is. Wise up kid before you do irreversible damage to your body.
Yeah, but it costs money to go to a doctor and have all that shit checked out. Lot's of cash if you an uninsured teenager.
 
RCfootball87 said:
Yeah, but it costs money to go to a doctor and have all that shit checked out. Lot's of cash if you an uninsured teenager.
If your parents have a family plan, it covers you as well, and all you have to pay is a $20 fee. IMO if your not willing to pay to make sure you are healthy, you should not risk running anabolics. No anabolic cycle is worth you own well-being.
 
LW83 said:
Read up on your diet. Right now, i am growing FASTER and stronger than I did on ANY cycle.


maybe you should have gotten your diet in check before you ran all those cycles ;)
 
gococksDJS said:
If your parents have a family plan, it covers you as well, and all you have to pay is a $20 fee. IMO if your not willing to pay to make sure you are healthy, you should not risk running anabolics. No anabolic cycle is worth you own well-being.
You think they'd give my parents a call?
 
M1T will completely hault your testosterone production within a few days of use. Your body is using testosterone to guide your growth, and just because you are tall does not mean that your body is done maturing. If your body quits making testosterone during this critical phase of your maturation...ah shit man, everyone on this board has been telling you the same damn thing for months. You keep making posts hoping someone will help you justify using M1T at age 17 or tell you the secrets to avoid these potential health problems. You do what you want, but you will spend the rest of your life dealing with it. Your call. There is no safe or healthy way for a teenager to use steroids (except where special medical conditions come into play).
 
RCfootball87 said:
You think they'd give my parents a call?
everything between you and your doctor is confidential by law, but he will tell you what we are telling you. You are way to young to be doing this shit. Im not sure which is worse, the fact that you want to use an anabolic steroid or the fact that you have already done several pro-hormone cycles at the age of 17. If you gave a shit about yourself you would put down the AAS and PH's until you were at least 22.
 
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