My 4th cycle

[Psycho Dad]

I'm 33 and this is my fourth cycle in the last 3 years....any advice will be apreciated.

1-12 2000mg test E
1-12 1800mg Deca
1-4 300mg ED Anadrol
6-12 100mg D-bol
13-14 300mg test prop ED

PCT Nolvadex 60/40/40/20

 

[LAM]

I'm 33 and this is my fourth cycle in the last 3 years....any advice will be apreciated.

1-12 2000mg test E
1-12 1800mg Deca
1-4 300mg ED Anadrol
6-12 100mg D-bol
13-14 300mg test prop ED

PCT Nolvadex 60/40/40/20

WAY too much gear unless you happen to be around 275 lbs @ 10% bf. more gear doesn't equal more gains just more sides

 

[Psycho Dad]

I'm 5'11 and 255 at 11% body fat right now.

 

[Tough Old Man]

Hell i have a friend that does twice your cycle. I think you are both fucking crazy.

Tough

 

[Mudge]

Thats a crazy ass cycle, my liver wouldn't handle it unfortunately. Do you get insomnia with that much juice?

 

[Psycho Dad]

Its less than my last cycle, so it should be fine.

 

[Tough Old Man]

Hope he doesn't as I'm going to do half that cycle. Hope i don't get half his insomnia

Thats a crazy ass cycle, my liver wouldn't handle it unfortunately. Do you get insomnia with that much juice?

 

[Mudge]

WAY too much gear unless you happen to be around 275 lbs @ 10% bf. more gear doesn't equal more gains just more sides

One NPC guy was close to there cruising, 1200 TE 1200 EQ, 270@10% 5'10".

 

[musclepump]

I'm 33 and this is my fourth cycle in the last 3 years....any advice will be apreciated.

1-12 2000mg test E
1-12 1800mg Deca
1-4 300mg ED Anadrol
6-12 100mg D-bol
13-14 300mg test prop ED

PCT Nolvadex 60/40/40/20

HOLY SHIT. You've got to be kidding with that many orals

 

[Psycho Dad]

HOLY SHIT. You've got to be kidding with that many orals

No, why would you say that?

 

[Mudge]

I have heard of oral doses exactly mirroring that, one guy didn't do too well though. The other one hasn't been heard from in awhile but he has 21 inchers, lean.

I loved anadrol @ 200mg a day, just can't do it for long. Never tried big doses on the dbol myself but someday I imagine I might. I like orals but I am not as big a fan of the organ strain.

 

[Psycho Dad]

If you want to get big you need to take big cycles.

 

[Mudge]

To a point I agree, I just think thats a bit more on the huge side, not big

I'm not here to judge though, thats just my observation.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

I think the first cycle you posted is insane amounts of drugs, and the oral doses are way high. I would get your liver checked every two weeks.

The revised cycle is better but still big doses.....and I feel one oral should be plenty at those doses.

 

[ZECH]

I'm 5'11 and 255 at 11% body fat right now.

Still too much. I know guys bigger than that and do half as much as that and get good gains.
As for the do more get bigger comment, that is absolutely false.

 

[gococksDJS]

Are you planning on wearing your suit of armor during this cycle?

 

[Psycho Dad]

Are you planning on wearing your suit of armor during this cycle?

thats funny i was just fooling with the armor thing
but i might now do over the cycle people think it too much so i work on it today

 

[gococksDJS]

this one might be better

1-6 D-bol 75 ED
1-12 Test cyp 1000mg
1-12 test E 1000mg
1-14 EQ 1000mg
1-14 Deca 900mg
7-12 Anadrol 200mg ED
1-14 t-3...25/50/75/100/125/150....stay at 150 week 3-12/100/75/50/25
1-16 GH 18 IU's 6 days a week

PCT 17-19 20 mg Nolva

why test cyp and enanthate at the same time?

 

[Psycho Dad]

why test cyp and enanthate at the same time?

hits more receptor sites that way......every hormone has its own receptor cite in the cells

 

[Stu]

test cyp and test enan are the same hormone

 

[Psycho Dad]

test cyp and test enan are the same hormone

variations of the same hormone

 

[ZECH]

hits more receptor sites that way......every hormone has its own receptor cite in the cells

Cyp and Enth are almost identical.
The molecular weight of Enth has 7 carbons. Cyp's weight has 8 carbons.
Just slightly different half lives. Not enough to be concerned with though. They can be interchanged for each other. So no need to do both. Pick one.

 

[JerseyDevil]

I think PD is yanking your chain guys

 

[TrojanMan60563]

this one might be better

1-6 D-bol 75 ED
1-12 Test cyp 1000mg
1-12 test E 1000mg
1-14 EQ 1000mg
1-14 Deca 900mg
7-12 Anadrol 200mg ED
1-14 t-3...25/50/75/100/125/150....stay at 150 week 3-12/100/75/50/25
1-16 GH 18 IU's 6 days a week

PCT 17-19 20 mg Nolva

I think your cycle ideas have gone from crazy to just plain stupid. This cycle is more shit then your original plan of attack. I disagree with the following-

a. No need for two orals
b. No need for using two different esters of test
c. No reason to take EQ and Deca at the time time
c. I think you love T3 way too much...the doses are on the high side and you are running it a longer time then most people feel safe.

 

[Psycho Dad]

I think your cycle ideas have gone from crazy to just plain stupid. This cycle is more shit then your original plan of attack. I disagree with the following-

a. No need for two orals
b. No need for using two different esters of test
c. No reason to take EQ and Deca at the time time
c. I think you love T3 way too much...the doses are on the high side and you are running it a longer time then most people feel safe.

well I have never used t-3 so I was hoping for some advise on its doses...
as far as the mix of steroids I find that they workl better if you use several types at once

 

[TrojanMan60563]

well I have never used t-3 so I was hoping for some advise on its doses...
as far as the mix of steroids I find that they workl better if you use several types at once

I don't think many people go over 100mcg T3 on their first time around. Its going to depend on the side effects you get from it as to how high you go. Most of what I read doesn't recommend using for more then 4-6 weeks. The ramp up and down is personal preference. Some say it does nothing. I could say ramping up is good to see how the dose effects you.

The idea behind using multiple steroids for better gains seems to hold true...but the benefits of using multiple drugs is that you don't have to use as much since you are on multiple drugs. You are going to be doing 4+ grams a week...that is crazy bro.

 

[Psycho Dad]

some changes


1-14 test cyp 1200mg
1-6 anadrol 100mg
1-12 deca 900mg
1-14 GH 12 IU ED
4-10 t-3 25/50/75.....5-9/50/25

 

[tommyboy11]

can i ask you one question pd, why do ur stats keep changing, age, weight, etc?