hey guys i just wanted to share something with yall. OK ive got this buddy of mine who is an absolute best. He's 19 6 ft 245 lbs of pure fuckin muscle. No steriods no special diet. I was asking him a bunch of questions one day about his training and nutrition. I have to say from what i gathered he doesnt have a clue about traing and diet but yet hes a freakin moster, he grown so damn fast at all times. Hes got stretch marks on his lats, bis, tris and chest. I just dont understand how this mother fucker does it. Oh and by the way he presses 430 lbs. Just something to ponder about fellas.
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Its called steroids and genetics.
Your friend is lying to you.
Your friend is lying to you.
A lot of people have wives that dont even know the truth, but either way, a 430 press is certainly respectable.
The only guys I have known to be true mesomorphs, were short, 5'8" 205ish.
The only guys I have known to be true mesomorphs, were short, 5'8" 205ish.
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430 press for reps at 19 on no anabolics is pretty damn ridiculous.
Impossible, no. Unlikely, yes.
Impossible, no. Unlikely, yes.
the right person can easily keep strength gains from steroid cycles. I also don't believe many people who look like they are on gear and claim not to be. I've had childhood friends of 20 + years lie right to my face and say there were clean when the roid dealer told me other wize...
if it looks like a duck...
if it looks like a duck...
this chick that cuts my hair, her hubby is a bb. he is 6' and a ripped 230. i have never met him personally but i have seen many pics of him. to my knowledge he doesnt juice but i could be wrong. maybe he uses and she doesnt even know it. i know he has been a bb for about 15 years now. she (the woman that cuts my hair) has recently got into bb as well. he wont go to the gym she has been going to though simply because they dont have 150 pound dumbbells.
Believe it or not some people are natural
I hate to burst you guy's bubble. But, being a freak can be a race-related( I'm African-American) issue. For instance, I am 6'2 300(but I look 260), I bench 475. I have never used steroids, creatine, or prohormones. In my boyhood neighborhood, everyone I knew was muscular and athletic. None of us lifted weights or dieted. For instance, my 2 brothers never lifted or dieted a day in their life, and they both have six packs. I have a friend who is 6'5 330lbs, under 10% bodyfat and 60 years old. He has never taken a drug in his life. And, he eats fried chicken on a regular, and so do I. In my neighborhood these bodytypes are the norm. When people(in my neighborhood) see the 60 year old freak, no one says oh this guys on steroids because he is the norm, and everyone has known him for 60 years. My grandfather smoked, drinked heavily at the age of 65, but I bet he could have won a bodybuilding competition at 65. He was ripped at about 200lbs and 65 years old.
The reason I write this is because I live in a prodominant white/hispanic community. Most of these people have never been to my old community, so they think I am a freek when they see me benching 405 for reps. I see them over in the corners whispering. Some will gain courage and come ask me, " hey man what are you taking - creatine, prohormones, etc..." Then when I tell them that I am natural, they say okay. But I know they don't believe me. I understand why. In their neighborhood, people that look like me are few. But in my old neighborhood, I am the norm. Its a matter of fact, I would consider myself below the norm considering some of my friends I grew up with.
I have found that very jealous people generally are the ones who don't accept when someone tells them that they are natural.
I hate to burst you guy's bubble. But, being a freak can be a race-related( I'm African-American) issue. For instance, I am 6'2 300(but I look 260), I bench 475. I have never used steroids, creatine, or prohormones. In my boyhood neighborhood, everyone I knew was muscular and athletic. None of us lifted weights or dieted. For instance, my 2 brothers never lifted or dieted a day in their life, and they both have six packs. I have a friend who is 6'5 330lbs, under 10% bodyfat and 60 years old. He has never taken a drug in his life. And, he eats fried chicken on a regular, and so do I. In my neighborhood these bodytypes are the norm. When people(in my neighborhood) see the 60 year old freak, no one says oh this guys on steroids because he is the norm, and everyone has known him for 60 years. My grandfather smoked, drinked heavily at the age of 65, but I bet he could have won a bodybuilding competition at 65. He was ripped at about 200lbs and 65 years old.
The reason I write this is because I live in a prodominant white/hispanic community. Most of these people have never been to my old community, so they think I am a freek when they see me benching 405 for reps. I see them over in the corners whispering. Some will gain courage and come ask me, " hey man what are you taking - creatine, prohormones, etc..." Then when I tell them that I am natural, they say okay. But I know they don't believe me. I understand why. In their neighborhood, people that look like me are few. But in my old neighborhood, I am the norm. Its a matter of fact, I would consider myself below the norm considering some of my friends I grew up with.
I have found that very jealous people generally are the ones who don't accept when someone tells them that they are natural.
ekeke said:
i attributed my black friend's athleticism and build to his extra Nigament
(please dont take that as racist, because its not, and im not, its funny if you take it at face value)
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first and foremost, WWHHHHHOOOOOOOOO CARES!!
post like this are completely un important and contribute nothing, and this pathetic attempt to be hardcore by association means nothing, especially over the internet. Post something that will benefit people positively b/c no one cares about your friend or who you know. jesus christ get a clue
post like this are completely un important and contribute nothing, and this pathetic attempt to be hardcore by association means nothing, especially over the internet. Post something that will benefit people positively b/c no one cares about your friend or who you know. jesus christ get a clue
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ROFLMAO.
Yea, if you got big by association, Johnnny would be huyyyuuuge.
Yea, if you got big by association, Johnnny would be huyyyuuuge.
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Where the fuq did you live, some top secret radiation infested base in New Mexico?
Do you live in a family of Ogre's?
Oohh... so friend chicken is a black thing...
Sounds like a SLIGHTLY embellished story to me... but hey, like Gr81 said.. who cares anyway.
camarosuper6 said:
so would MANY BB's at IM
I can relate mang, i bench 585 49 times. All natural. My great grandfather won Mr. Olympia this year.
HE's 19 and he used roids a couple years in the past? hmmmmdnale48 said:
I have a freind that's 20 180 and presses 380 like butta'. But he's been in the game for a long time. He's never touched even the simplest supplements.
BigDyl said:
impressive
ekeke said:
Who is your friend, Ronnie Coleman's dad? Give me a fucking break.
Flex said:impressive
Yeah, and that was on a bad day.
stats: 7'8, 530 LB's, 4.3% BF.
1RM BB Bench: 987
1RM Squat ATF: 1240
1RM Deadlift: 1038
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ain't nuthin but that LITE WATE BABY!!
lol
lol
jealousy
As I stated before, because none of you grew up in my neighborhood and you're jealous, you won't accept the truth.
The truth is "cowpimp" probably more like small d*ck - in your neighborhoods(white ones) you don't see 6'5 330lbs under 10% bodyfat people walking around. I do. I live in a prodominant white neighborhood now and on average I see a bunch of skinny or fat or average teenage kids, including adults. This was not the case in my old neighborhood.
You guys are so narrow-minded because you have never lived in my-type hoods. The only reason I wrote this was to support the original poster who stated that his friend was natural. And as usually the genetically weak automatically assume he was lying. I understand why you would because in your neighborhood the norm is physically genetic weakness, but in my old neighborhood, if someone has weak physical genetics they were beat up or outcasts.
And to the guy who want to say something about being a nigg*r. I am sure your girl friend was one of the cheerleaders from my college days who begged me to let her touch my 12 inches. Jealousy will get you no where. Leave the comfort of your homes one day and go to a recreational center in your local black neighborhood( at your own risk of course, except for the jealous guy making references to nigg*rs).
You can say alot from a keyboard, but when you're face-to-face with a 6'2 300lbs freak staring you in the eye, ready to knock all of your teeth out, then we would see the real jealous bitc* that you are. ( this statement directed to the guy making nigg*r references and of course cowbitch)
Your statements are a guarantee that american will remain the racists monster she has always been. Accept it, decendants of africa have very good physical genetics; therefore everytime you see a freak don't assume everyone is weak like you and uses steroids...
Oh my point about eating fried foods(chicken), was to assert that I don't diet with foods like baked chicken, tuna, yams, etc...
As I stated before, because none of you grew up in my neighborhood and you're jealous, you won't accept the truth.
The truth is "cowpimp" probably more like small d*ck - in your neighborhoods(white ones) you don't see 6'5 330lbs under 10% bodyfat people walking around. I do. I live in a prodominant white neighborhood now and on average I see a bunch of skinny or fat or average teenage kids, including adults. This was not the case in my old neighborhood.
You guys are so narrow-minded because you have never lived in my-type hoods. The only reason I wrote this was to support the original poster who stated that his friend was natural. And as usually the genetically weak automatically assume he was lying. I understand why you would because in your neighborhood the norm is physically genetic weakness, but in my old neighborhood, if someone has weak physical genetics they were beat up or outcasts.
And to the guy who want to say something about being a nigg*r. I am sure your girl friend was one of the cheerleaders from my college days who begged me to let her touch my 12 inches. Jealousy will get you no where. Leave the comfort of your homes one day and go to a recreational center in your local black neighborhood( at your own risk of course, except for the jealous guy making references to nigg*rs).
You can say alot from a keyboard, but when you're face-to-face with a 6'2 300lbs freak staring you in the eye, ready to knock all of your teeth out, then we would see the real jealous bitc* that you are. ( this statement directed to the guy making nigg*r references and of course cowbitch)
Your statements are a guarantee that american will remain the racists monster she has always been. Accept it, decendants of africa have very good physical genetics; therefore everytime you see a freak don't assume everyone is weak like you and uses steroids...
Oh my point about eating fried foods(chicken), was to assert that I don't diet with foods like baked chicken, tuna, yams, etc...
ekeke said:
At least you're not stereotyping
I have MANY black friends, among my best friends in fact, and IMO black people are JUST as racist as white people.
And ya, i don't assume Ronnie Coleman takes steroids, i think he just eats alot of chicken
ekeke said:
coughbulltshitcough*
It's a hood full of scary monsters that put all of us skinny weaklings to shame. Too bad people who are on hardcore roid cycles with decent genetics don't reach the apex of these natural guys in these mystical hood... somewhere.
I tend to think alot of the guys on ironmag forumns are beasts, and I'm sure quite a few would put your beastmaster friends to shame. I'm 6'7 myself, and I'm a pretty big guy, but just because I'm tall doesnt mean shit. Just because some guy is tall and strong does not mean shit. Sure they can intimidate, but it doesnt mean they can fight. Oh, wait here comes the rant about the 10 time kickboxer/kung fu campion/nfl foot ball player/professional ninja.
i have a little brother who is 11 years old and weighs 109 lbs and presses 485 for reps. And hes only cycled roids 6 or 7 times. 
steroids
Of course ronnie uses steroids. I never said he didn't. I was talking about natural people like me and others who you don't see everyday in your community, but I see in mine. Of course no one can look like ronnie and not use steroids. I bench 475 without the help of steroids, creatine, or prohormone crap. I grew up with people stronger and bigger than me who I saw everyday, which were the norm.
I played professional football for 11 years and feel that I have seen what the norm is when it comes to identifying the norm - which is why blacks outnumber all races in sports that require speed, power, strength, size, and agility. Don't be mad. Just be glad you are non-black and dont have face racism everyday of your life you live no matter how much money you have.
Of course ronnie uses steroids. I never said he didn't. I was talking about natural people like me and others who you don't see everyday in your community, but I see in mine. Of course no one can look like ronnie and not use steroids. I bench 475 without the help of steroids, creatine, or prohormone crap. I grew up with people stronger and bigger than me who I saw everyday, which were the norm.
I played professional football for 11 years and feel that I have seen what the norm is when it comes to identifying the norm - which is why blacks outnumber all races in sports that require speed, power, strength, size, and agility. Don't be mad. Just be glad you are non-black and dont have face racism everyday of your life you live no matter how much money you have.
this is fuckin stupid. WHO GIVES A FUCK WHO YOU KNOW?
and ekeke, if you think im racist, shut the fuck up. i dont give a fuck what color you are. i have several black friends. i just care about the attitude. there's people of all races with bad attitudes. my dislike towards people with bad attitudes includes all races, including whites, not just one.
and by the way, statistically, white guys are bigger than blacks. so stfu. http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html. remember, i dont dislike you because you are black. i dislike you because you think that knowing huge guys makes you the coolest guy ever.
and if you think i have a bad attitude and should hate myself, im a nice guy except when people turn everything anybody says into something racist. THAT is what america is these days. universities have to let in a certain amount of black people or else they get sued, even if their test scores are lower and they are less qualified, and white people can't bring up race at all on tv, but blacks can slander whites and say "punk cracker bitch" just because we're white? fuck that! people need to shut up about race. its about the attitude of the individual, not the color of their skin.
and ekeke, if you think im racist, shut the fuck up. i dont give a fuck what color you are. i have several black friends. i just care about the attitude. there's people of all races with bad attitudes. my dislike towards people with bad attitudes includes all races, including whites, not just one.
and by the way, statistically, white guys are bigger than blacks. so stfu. http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html. remember, i dont dislike you because you are black. i dislike you because you think that knowing huge guys makes you the coolest guy ever.
and if you think i have a bad attitude and should hate myself, im a nice guy except when people turn everything anybody says into something racist. THAT is what america is these days. universities have to let in a certain amount of black people or else they get sued, even if their test scores are lower and they are less qualified, and white people can't bring up race at all on tv, but blacks can slander whites and say "punk cracker bitch" just because we're white? fuck that! people need to shut up about race. its about the attitude of the individual, not the color of their skin.
You talking about me?wtfzor said:
Ekeke, I am not being racist. I never mentioned anything about you being black. I just find it completely ludcirous that a 60 year old man has a physique that is approximately the same in terms of the weight of lean body mass as the modern bodybuilding champion. As well, I don't see how your neighborhood can possibly lead to superior genetics all throughout. It is quite obvious you're lying.
Guess what? I live right by Washington DC. The population of Washington DC is predominantly black. As well, the suburb that I live in contains a very high concentration of black and latino population. I am bigger than most of the black people that I know or see. I don't see how your hood is so amazing unless it happens to sit right next to a nuclear powerplant.
Oh yeah, and you want me to let you in on another secret? A lot of professional athletes use steroids. As well, I certainly would consider atheletes the cream of the crop in terms of genetic potential.
By the way, would you care to post pictures of yourself and your monstrously huge 60 year old friend and shut me up? I somehow doubt you will. I anticipate the following response, "I don't have to prove anything to you, etc. "
Guess what? I live right by Washington DC. The population of Washington DC is predominantly black. As well, the suburb that I live in contains a very high concentration of black and latino population. I am bigger than most of the black people that I know or see. I don't see how your hood is so amazing unless it happens to sit right next to a nuclear powerplant.
Oh yeah, and you want me to let you in on another secret? A lot of professional athletes use steroids. As well, I certainly would consider atheletes the cream of the crop in terms of genetic potential.
By the way, would you care to post pictures of yourself and your monstrously huge 60 year old friend and shut me up? I somehow doubt you will. I anticipate the following response, "I don't have to prove anything to you, etc. "
Dimebag and cowbitch
Dimebag you are a coward white bitch**. You are what I am talking about. You are the ideal racist. You say "I have black friends." This is the first sign of a racist. Guilt requires you to say that you have black friends. As far as affirmative action, whites are so racist that they forget reparations for equality is needed not only for JEWS and INDIANS, but also for blacks. In case you weren't aware blacks were enslaved, and ripped of their heritage and soul. Every powerful person in this country is white, which means when it comes time for a job or college entrance, we have to depend on the government to make the white person to give an opportunity to those who are non-white. You are a blabbering idiot which explains your ignorance and racist remarks. It's not good enough that by being white has guaranteed you a good life, but now you think that others who are less fortunate only because of the color of their skin, don't deserve the a few opportunities. F*uck you you racist bastard. I am sure you are some fake wanna be b-boy. In my old neighborhood, you would have been someone's bitch. I am sure of it.
Don't be mad that blacks are more stronger, faster, muscular, agile, jump higher, and have a bigger d*ick than your counter parts. Just remember that being white and racist is your advantage.
Cowbitch,
You are speaking of seeing a few blacks who are probably malnutritioned and everything else- probably homeless. Go deep into the neighborhood, which I know you didn't because you would have been killed or robbed. I know this for a fact because I use to live in Baltimore. I visited D.C. and I had to carry a weapon once I got deep into the neighborhood, and I'm black. So you haven't seen what I'm talking about. As for steroids, you have no idea. The majority of the steroid users in the NFL are white, sorry but it's true. The reason the NFL became prodominately black was to rid itself of the Howe Longs and other steroid-furies. But it's not as prevelant as you may think. Media BullSh*t is responsible for the propaganda.
As far as the 60 year-old freak, he was a friend I met while in college. But if you really want to meet him, just get arrested in Shelby county(memphis) TN. He is a sherriff jailer. His nick name is Big V. Everyone knows him. 6'5 330lbs. He is the norm there. All of his old friends were his size, but they weren't as ripped. Like I said before, you won't believe me because you don't see people like this all the time in your community, I do.
Dimebag you are a coward white bitch**. You are what I am talking about. You are the ideal racist. You say "I have black friends." This is the first sign of a racist. Guilt requires you to say that you have black friends. As far as affirmative action, whites are so racist that they forget reparations for equality is needed not only for JEWS and INDIANS, but also for blacks. In case you weren't aware blacks were enslaved, and ripped of their heritage and soul. Every powerful person in this country is white, which means when it comes time for a job or college entrance, we have to depend on the government to make the white person to give an opportunity to those who are non-white. You are a blabbering idiot which explains your ignorance and racist remarks. It's not good enough that by being white has guaranteed you a good life, but now you think that others who are less fortunate only because of the color of their skin, don't deserve the a few opportunities. F*uck you you racist bastard. I am sure you are some fake wanna be b-boy. In my old neighborhood, you would have been someone's bitch. I am sure of it.
Don't be mad that blacks are more stronger, faster, muscular, agile, jump higher, and have a bigger d*ick than your counter parts. Just remember that being white and racist is your advantage.
Cowbitch,
You are speaking of seeing a few blacks who are probably malnutritioned and everything else- probably homeless. Go deep into the neighborhood, which I know you didn't because you would have been killed or robbed. I know this for a fact because I use to live in Baltimore. I visited D.C. and I had to carry a weapon once I got deep into the neighborhood, and I'm black. So you haven't seen what I'm talking about. As for steroids, you have no idea. The majority of the steroid users in the NFL are white, sorry but it's true. The reason the NFL became prodominately black was to rid itself of the Howe Longs and other steroid-furies. But it's not as prevelant as you may think. Media BullSh*t is responsible for the propaganda.
As far as the 60 year-old freak, he was a friend I met while in college. But if you really want to meet him, just get arrested in Shelby county(memphis) TN. He is a sherriff jailer. His nick name is Big V. Everyone knows him. 6'5 330lbs. He is the norm there. All of his old friends were his size, but they weren't as ripped. Like I said before, you won't believe me because you don't see people like this all the time in your community, I do.
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