OldSchoolLifter
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Yeah all the more reason to use bac because its not going to sit very long. ? Ice never used AA for anything other than LR3 are you recomending AA for des?
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Yeah all the more reason to use bac because its not going to sit very long. ? Ice never used AA for anything other than LR3 are you recomending AA for des?
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OldSchoolLifter
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Had to share my touchdown today,
Look how freaking awesome that EP Dom Tren Ace looks! So CLEAR, I have never seen Tren with that kind of clarity.
Look how freaking awesome that EP Dom Tren Ace looks! So CLEAR, I have never seen Tren with that kind of clarity.
OldSchoolLifter
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I wish I could run it right now as well, But its not in the cards for now, But when I start my Cut in the end/beginning of Feb you can bet Ill be running Tren HARD.
Are you planning to throw other cutting drugs into the mix? Mast, primo, Winny, var, halo?
unfortunately, I can't risk using tren due to the possible vo2 max decrease.
Ehhh I've used it both ways. Like I said I had a brain fart when reconing MOD/GHRP and filled both LR3 and DES with bav water. I'm not sure I noticed much of a difference.
What do you think about the site injections so far? All I know is wherever I pinned, I got a wicked pump.
OldSchoolLifter
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Yes My Cut cycle will look something like this
1-10 Test Prop 50mg/ed
1-10 Tren Ace 75mg/ed
1-10 Var 70mg/ed
1-10 Clen 60-120mcg 4 weeks on 1 week off.
1-10 T3 50mcg daily.
7-10 Winstrol 50mg/ed
Towards the end Ill lower test, drop tren, and have only the orals, ill increase my AI and really dry up.
I haven't seen a difference, But i guess your always safer with AA.
And as for the site injections, Yes no noticeable "size" yet but my kids say I look bigger, and the pump I get from working that muslce is insane, and it lasts all day!
are you planning on using ketotifen to take clen longer than two weeks? I love clen but it loses its effect in about 10-12 days for me. I tried using benadryl to extend the clen cycles but it didnt work at all for me.
OldSchoolLifter
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Actually yes, if I can manage to get my hands on some, if not Ill most likley go 3 weeks, and 2 weeks off, but the third week on will have some benadryl in the mix.
OldSchoolLifter
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Pinned 60mcg in each Bicep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each tricep.
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my Chest
30 min Later I pinned 100mch LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
Whoa boy, insulin sensitivity is heightened for sure, Im glad I have my carbs and quick acting sources, made this day go buy very smooth.
Today workout was Legs/Combo Arms
Great pump, and lots of energy today!
Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each tricep.
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my Chest
30 min Later I pinned 100mch LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
Whoa boy, insulin sensitivity is heightened for sure, Im glad I have my carbs and quick acting sources, made this day go buy very smooth.
Today workout was Legs/Combo Arms
Great pump, and lots of energy today!
Had to share my touchdown today,
Look how freaking awesome that EP Dom Tren Ace looks! So CLEAR, I have never seen Tren with that kind of clarity.
Wow, now I see why you and Heavy love their gear! That is impressive stuff, I don't think I have seen tren that clear ever either. Smooth going in I would assume?
OldSchoolLifter
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Very smooth! Its a rare treat to have tren with very minimal oxidation. It just shows the quality of the raw used to make it, as well as the makers experience.
Never seen tren ace that light before. That looks just like test made with GSO. I'm not saying that's what it is but ALL of the tren I've seen before is golden/dark yellow. I'm sure it's legit though. Just wonder why it's not as dark. Is it straight GSO/BA/BB or is there EO or something else in there?
OldSchoolLifter
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It could have some EO in it, but the secrete is quality raws, and not over heating tren, the hotter you heat tren the darker it oxidizes and give it that dark color.
Tren when perfectly made will come out just like test nice and golden yellow. But its rare to see tren made that well, that's not to discredit how good other darker tren is, there just as good, I even have some Z-Line that is brown, but that shit knocked me on my ass.
This just happens to be a great domestic batch of tren, with very little oxidation and turbidity.
OldSchoolLifter
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Well Today I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q and since I have some extra GH I went ahead and dosed 6iu today.
Today was not a workout day so everything else was not taken.
Tomorrow is though so woo hoo.
Im still up 4-5 lbs, but I feel massive, I feel pumped all freaking day, and my veins just look awesome.
Today was not a workout day so everything else was not taken.
Tomorrow is though so woo hoo.
Im still up 4-5 lbs, but I feel massive, I feel pumped all freaking day, and my veins just look awesome.
OldSchoolLifter
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Well today was strange, I decided to do a little experiment.
Among the AAS and Peptides + GH Im on, I always take 20mg Halo, 100mg Test Base, and a Pre workout Stim, Before I lift.
Well today I decided to see how do they really affect my workout, if I dropped all of them? LOL damn I felt like bitch today, Lifts were under than my usual, I still got a great pump, from the Peptides, and Dbol. But Strength and energy was definently lacking.
Once you start using Halo and Test Base, its hard to stop! LOL
Pinned 60mcg DES in each Tricep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each Chest.
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Bicep
30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
All went smooth today, I increase my Post workout Protein to 60g with 40g Bcaa, then 45 min later another 40g Shake, than an hour later 100g 1500 cal meal
Among the AAS and Peptides + GH Im on, I always take 20mg Halo, 100mg Test Base, and a Pre workout Stim, Before I lift.
Well today I decided to see how do they really affect my workout, if I dropped all of them? LOL damn I felt like bitch today, Lifts were under than my usual, I still got a great pump, from the Peptides, and Dbol. But Strength and energy was definently lacking.
Once you start using Halo and Test Base, its hard to stop! LOL
Pinned 60mcg DES in each Tricep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each Chest.
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Bicep
30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
All went smooth today, I increase my Post workout Protein to 60g with 40g Bcaa, then 45 min later another 40g Shake, than an hour later 100g 1500 cal meal
Great information here OSL. Thanks for sharing to all you. Learned a great deal today and have been anxious to try out peptides, HGH, insulin and ready to take it to the next level. Seriously good stuff man. while on heavy dosed cycle would 4ius of growth a day show noticable gains over a period of time have enough for 3 months not sure on insulin dose though? I am 41. Training and cycling juice for yrs. 6'2"@ 270lbs bdyfat 12% Eat great/clean diet. First time using hgh/insulin.
Interesting, Note pad is out for my future.
As A related question. has anyone followed A preworkout slin protocol? similar to "mutant's slin protocol" Just as I noticed post workout is popular.
As A related question. has anyone followed A preworkout slin protocol? similar to "mutant's slin protocol" Just as I noticed post workout is popular.
OldSchoolLifter
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Yes, before starting this I was using 10iu Slin pre workout, and then another 10iu and hour post. It worked out well.
The theory is to shuttle enough nutrients during your workout, so that you don't necessarily break down the muslce, only to rest and have it re build again, you just build as your breaking it down. Seems to work well, but its difficult workout out when on slin, make sure you have a nice BCAA shake while your lifting, add some dextrose, and keep a couple glucose tabs or gatorade with you.
Working out de-plenishes blood sugar and glycogen, so when on slin the results are magnified. The first time I did I was not prepared and felt really tiered and nauseated. I then fixed my carb/dextrose intake and it started working fine.
OldSchoolLifter
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Sorry for the lack of Updates, I took a week off from the Gym for the holidays, but during that time I still pinned 6 IU ED of GH, along side my Test and NPP, and Dbol.
Today was chest day with some Triceps.
Pinned 60mcg DES in each Tricep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each Chest.
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Chest
30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
Strength for some reason was lacking today, so was drive and motivation. Damn holidays! lol
Weight gain is still around 5-6lbs though and I feel leaner.
Today was chest day with some Triceps.
Pinned 60mcg DES in each Tricep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 75mcg MGF in each Chest.
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Chest
30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
Strength for some reason was lacking today, so was drive and motivation. Damn holidays! lol
Weight gain is still around 5-6lbs though and I feel leaner.
OldSchoolLifter
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Yesterday was Back and Bi Day
Pinned 60mcg DES in each Bicep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 150mcg MGF in each Bicep
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Bicep
30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
Strength and energy was good today, and weight gain is now up over 7 lbs and I feel awesome, no noticeable fat gain, but I look and feel leaner. Veins are starting to show up in places ive never had. Like the nice cross vein in my right bicep.
Overall this has been a great cycle, I cant wait to introduce Peg-MGF and possibly some follistatin.
Pinned 60mcg DES in each Bicep Prior to training today.
Came home and pinned 150mcg MGF in each Bicep
15 min Later I pinned 14iu HGH in my right Bicep
30 min Later I pinned 100mcg LR3 Sub Q
10 min Later I pinned 7 IU Humalog.
Strength and energy was good today, and weight gain is now up over 7 lbs and I feel awesome, no noticeable fat gain, but I look and feel leaner. Veins are starting to show up in places ive never had. Like the nice cross vein in my right bicep.
Overall this has been a great cycle, I cant wait to introduce Peg-MGF and possibly some follistatin.
OldSchoolLifter
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With my protocol, its ideal I take it PWO. BUT
Before I started this protocol I was doing slin Pre workout, and HGH and Slin again POST workout.
Dat is a very knowledgeable guy, and one the main roots of my research.
OldSchoolLifter
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VictorZ06
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Looks like things are looking real good for you brother!! Keep up the good work. Dat knows his shit real well, and his protocols change every so often. What you got going on works best IMHO....at least for me it does and I've used his protocols in the past.
/V
OldSchoolLifter
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Im loving it brother, the pinning is ab it of a hassle, but tolerable, but im really enjoying it, I have already notice some site specific growth in my tri's and bi's
Thanks for all your help with getting me pointed and setup in the right direction.
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MattPorter
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OSL--
I like your method of GH first----slin after.
If GH increased blood glucose by itself and is inhibited by high insulin blood levels, why would we take Insulin first?
Take GH -- let it do its thing and convert into IGF-1 ----> further pulse IGF-1 exogenously -----> start ingesting your nutrient dense cocktail w/insulin along side.
Dat knows scientific data well --- and most likely has something to back up his reason for SLin first ---GH second. I think we all would love to see why.
-Matt
I like your method of GH first----slin after.
If GH increased blood glucose by itself and is inhibited by high insulin blood levels, why would we take Insulin first?
Take GH -- let it do its thing and convert into IGF-1 ----> further pulse IGF-1 exogenously -----> start ingesting your nutrient dense cocktail w/insulin along side.
Dat knows scientific data well --- and most likely has something to back up his reason for SLin first ---GH second. I think we all would love to see why.
-Matt
