need advice as to what to buy and how to take

[gettinbig40]

well i am gona run naturally for a while. heres what i have in store at my house. all the following is by universal nutritions. creatine powder, gain fast 3100, 100% beef amino's, amino 2700, and beta ala9. i also take muscle pharms pre-workout assault before i work out. i also have by optimum nutrition. serious mass, HMB caps, BCAA caps, and 100% casein. i take the casein before i sleep at night. anyways i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to stack these properly for the best results as far as when to take them and what not. also have fish oil and multivitamins on hand. eating 4 to 6 meals per day and train 5 days a week. i'm 20 years old i weigh 130 pounds at 5 foot 6 inches. i'm thinkin about starting this also as a post workout agenda: sugar, protein, creatine, water(but not too much) drink a protein shake, and 5 g of creatine in water, and wash it down with a cup of grape juice(wich has 40g of sugar) the sugar triggers an insulin spike, insulin shuttles the protein and creatine into the muscle cells promoting recovery. this is the same premise by wich bodybuilders use insulin(but they inject it because of all the HGH they use makes them insulin resistant) like i said i'm new to the supplement world ive been training hard over a year(been training for a couple years but not too hard til this past year) anyway i was wondering if someone could help me put together a little routine with all these supplements i have to get the best results out of them to benefit me most. thanks alot guys

 

[SloppyJ]

First thing you're gonna need to do is eat much more food. The supplements aren't going to make you bigger but food will.

 

[gettinbig40]

First thing you're gonna need to do is eat much more food. The supplements aren't going to make you bigger but food will.

i am bro i upped my diet big time. i just need advice on when best time to take the supps i already have to get best results

 

[gettinbig40]

also the insulin spike thing was something a friend told me so was wonderin does it look effective

 

[MattPorter]

well i am gona run naturally for a while. heres what i have in store at my house. all the following is by universal nutritions. creatine powder, gain fast 3100, 100% beef amino's, amino 2700, and beta ala9. i also take muscle pharms pre-workout assault before i work out. i also have by optimum nutrition. serious mass, HMB caps, BCAA caps, and 100% casein. i take the casein before i sleep at night. anyways i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to stack these properly for the best results as far as when to take them and what not. also have fish oil and multivitamins on hand. eating 4 to 6 meals per day and train 5 days a week. i'm 20 years old i weigh 130 pounds at 5 foot 6 inches. i'm thinkin about starting this also as a post workout agenda: sugar, protein, creatine, water(but not too much) drink a protein shake, and 5 g of creatine in water, and wash it down with a cup of grape juice(wich has 40g of sugar) the sugar triggers an insulin spike, insulin shuttles the protein and creatine into the muscle cells promoting recovery. this is the same premise by wich bodybuilders use insulin(but they inject it because of all the HGH they use makes them insulin resistant) like i said i'm new to the supplement world ive been training hard over a year(been training for a couple years but not too hard til this past year) anyway i was wondering if someone could help me put together a little routine with all these supplements i have to get the best results out of them to benefit me most. thanks alot guys

I would ONLY use wt gainer if it were QUALITY as in you made it. Protein blend, rilose or oats, + coconut oil. Far too much junk in most wt gainers now days.

LBA's are cool and you can use them with each meal or between meals. Creatine is cool and does help with some strength and performance gains.

Do not stress too much over all these supplements as FOOD is your primary anabolic while training naturally. REMEMBER THAT!

Post workout -- what I currently do is this -- 8oz of 100% liquid pasteeurized egg whites + 12oz organic pineapple juice + 1 scoop of natural whey isolate.

Its great -- and the egg whites are 100 grams of protein per carton for 3 bucks.

-Matt

 

[gettinbig40]

I would ONLY use wt gainer if it were QUALITY as in you made it. Protein blend, rilose or oats, + coconut oil. Far too much junk in most wt gainers now days.

LBA's are cool and you can use them with each meal or between meals. Creatine is cool and does help with some strength and performance gains.

Do not stress too much over all these supplements as FOOD is your primary anabolic while training naturally. REMEMBER THAT!

Post workout -- what I currently do is this -- 8oz of 100% liquid pasteeurized egg whites + 12oz organic pineapple juice + 1 scoop of natural whey isolate.

Its great -- and the egg whites are 100 grams of protein per carton for 3 bucks.

-Matt

so should i not worry about the HMB matt? as i havent ordered it yet and if its not effective you will save me 30 bucks lol. and as far as your protein shakes go they sound amazing but theres no way i could down that sounds disgusting

 

[MattPorter]

so should i not worry about the HMB matt? as i havent ordered it yet and if its not effective you will save me 30 bucks lol. and as far as your protein shakes go they sound amazing but theres no way i could down that sounds disgusting

lol-- no man, the liquid whites are tasteless and when mized with pineapple juice plus a packet of splenda with ice! It's refreshing! (i kid you not)

HMB -- may be decent anti catabolic when dieting and in a severe caloric deficit, but I would save your money at the moment and buy more quality food.

-<Matt

 

[sofargone561]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/149217-21-yrs-old-first-cycle.html


bro your stats change in every thread you post. go go from 21 to 20 to almsot being 21 from 135 to 130. just be real bro. you should tell us stats at all if you going to lie. you only get mixed up and piss poeple like me off. like ur comment in you last thread. so for that im going to call you out in every post u make and one more thing NEGGED!

 

[MakeItMethylated]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/149217-21-yrs-old-first-cycle.html


bro your stats change in every thread you post. Go go from 21 to 20 to almsot being 21 from 135 to 130. Just be real bro. You should tell us stats at all if you going to lie. You only get mixed up and piss poeple like me off. Like ur comment in you last thread. So for that im going to call you out in every post u make and one more thing negged!

x2

 

[gettinbig40]

i'm right at 130 pounds now i weighed myself prior to this thread excuse me for used to being 135. is it really that hard to believe i lost 5 pounds lol? shit bro and i said 21 because i will be 21 in a couple of months wow. you need to find a better hobby than tryna figure me out n talk shit bro. like i said before i'm here to be pointed in the right direction

 

[Chubby]

well i am gona run naturally for a while. heres what i have in store at my house. all the following is by universal nutritions. creatine powder, gain fast 3100, 100% beef amino's, amino 2700, and beta ala9. i also take muscle pharms pre-workout assault before i work out. i also have by optimum nutrition. serious mass, HMB caps, BCAA caps, and 100% casein. i take the casein before i sleep at night. anyways i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to stack these properly for the best results as far as when to take them and what not. also have fish oil and multivitamins on hand. eating 4 to 6 meals per day and train 5 days a week. i'm 20 years old i weigh 130 pounds at 5 foot 6 inches. i'm thinkin about starting this also as a post workout agenda: sugar, protein, creatine, water(but not too much) drink a protein shake, and 5 g of creatine in water, and wash it down with a cup of grape juice(wich has 40g of sugar) the sugar triggers an insulin spike, insulin shuttles the protein and creatine into the muscle cells promoting recovery. this is the same premise by wich bodybuilders use insulin(but they inject it because of all the HGH they use makes them insulin resistant) like i said i'm new to the supplement world ive been training hard over a year(been training for a couple years but not too hard til this past year) anyway i was wondering if someone could help me put together a little routine with all these supplements i have to get the best results out of them to benefit me most. thanks alot guys

That looks so confusing. Here you go now it is easier for others to help you.

Creatine Powder
Gain Fast 3100
Serious Mass
100% Beef Amino
HMB caps
Bcaa caps
Amino 2700
Beta Alanine
Assault (preworkout)
100% Casein
Fish Oils
Multivitamins

 

[banker23]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/149217-21-yrs-old-first-cycle.html


bro your stats change in every thread you post. go go from 21 to 20 to almsot being 21 from 135 to 130. just be real bro. you should tell us stats at all if you going to lie. you only get mixed up and piss poeple like me off. like ur comment in you last thread. so for that im going to call you out in every post u make and one more thing NEGGED!

SFG I agree people should be real but come on...off by less than one year (possibly off by only days)? 5 lbs difference? I know I can easily fluctuate 4 lbs in one day (I've dropped 25 lbs in 7 days before) and I've rounded up in some threads when my birthday was approaching to save explanation. These differences aren't worth calling someone out for and threatening with neggs.

Now gaining 5 lbs of lean mass is alot harder than losing 5 lbs of fat and water but it looks like this OP's post is all in the realm of realistic stat reporting...if he was gonna lie, why not claim to be over 200 lbs at 8% body fat with 22" arms. If I was gonna lie, I would at least try to sound impressive!

 

[gettinbig40]

SFG I agree people should be real but come on...off by less than one year (possibly off by only days)? 5 lbs difference? I know I can easily fluctuate 4 lbs in one day (I've dropped 25 lbs in 7 days before) and I've rounded up in some threads when my birthday was approaching to save explanation. These differences aren't worth calling someone out for and threatening with neggs.

Now gaining 5 lbs of lean mass is alot harder than losing 5 lbs of fat and water but it looks like this OP's post is all in the realm of realistic stat reporting...if he was gonna lie, why not claim to be over 200 lbs at 8% body fat with 22" arms. If I was gonna lie, I would at least try to sound impressive!

thank you! LOL

 

[gettinbig40]

That looks so confusing. Here you go now it is easier for others to help you.

Creatine Powder
Gain Fast 3100
Serious Mass
100% Beef Amino
HMB caps
Bcaa caps
Amino 2700
Beta Alanine
Assault (preworkout)
100% Casein
Fish Oils
Multivitamins[/QU

thanks lol sorry thread was so long

 

[sofargone561]

SFG I agree people should be real but come on...off by less than one year (possibly off by only days)? 5 lbs difference? I know I can easily fluctuate 4 lbs in one day (I've dropped 25 lbs in 7 days before) and I've rounded up in some threads when my birthday was approaching to save explanation. These differences aren't worth calling someone out for and threatening with neggs.

Now gaining 5 lbs of lean mass is alot harder than losing 5 lbs of fat and water but it looks like this OP's post is all in the realm of realistic stat reporting...if he was gonna lie, why not claim to be over 200 lbs at 8% body fat with 22" arms. If I was gonna lie, I would at least try to sound impressive!

its not just that. this kid is an ass clown. have you read his posts? total retard. why try to sound impressive? to please a whole bunch of sea cows? im 6'2'' 256lbs 21% BF i dont even go to the gym. who the hell cares i come on here becuase i have no friends in real life. i go up and down 5 lbs a day as well. it depends on how much pie i eat.

 

[gettinbig40]

its not just that. this kid is an ass clown. have you read his posts? total retard. why try to sound impressive? to please a whole bunch of sea cows? im 6'2'' 256lbs 21% BF i dont even go to the gym. who the hell cares i come on here becuase i have no friends in real life. i go up and down 5 lbs a day as well. it depends on how much pie i eat.

right i'm a clown because i came on here to get info from other people instead of just listening to one guy that told me some bullshit. its kinda like goin to the doc and doc says you need surgery. of course your gona go to a couple more to make sure that is neccessary instead of bein like alright lets do it? your a total retard, get a life bro. and good for you ive still beat ppl's asses bigger than you. furthermore i'm an ectomorph excuse the fuck outa me i cant sit around n be 250 pounds and damn sure aint gona grow over 5 foot 6 inches so get off my nuts.

 

[sofargone561]

right i'm a clown because i came on here to get info from other people instead of just listening to one guy that told me some bullshit. its kinda like goin to the doc and doc says you need surgery. of course your gona go to a couple more to make sure that is neccessary instead of bein like alright lets do it? your a total retard, get a life bro. and good for you ive still beat ppl's asses bigger than you. furthermore i'm an ectomorph excuse the fuck outa me i cant sit around n be 250 pounds and damn sure aint gona grow over 5 foot 6 inches so get off my nuts.

sorry bro please dont hurt me.

 

[Chubby]

Creatine Powder- Take with post workout carbs. or mix in luke warm water and stir until desolves, then drink for preworkout.

Gain Fast 3100-Take about 30-45 mins. after postworkout drink.

Serious Mass-Wait until you run out of Gain Fast 3100

100% Beef Amino-(Amino Acids)Take in between meals,during workout out or postworkout drink.

Beta Alanine-Wait until you run out of Assault, then take it with creatine and coffee for preworkout.

Assault (preworkout)About 30 mins. before workout

100% Casein-Before bed

Fish Oils- Take atleast 3gm of omega3 a day with meal.

Multivitamins- Take with meals

I hope this helps.

 

[gettinbig40]

I hope this helps.

thanks alot