need advice for a friend who botched his cycle

[borntowin78]

My friend was 4 weeks into a test and deca cycle when he started developing progestin induced gyno. He found out his test was bunk and his deca was not. He stopped pinning and cleared up his gyno with B6. He did not run a pct. Now its 2 months later and he suspected his natural test was low and got bloodwork, and it came back extremely low. She he do a pct now? Is some hcg necessary or just a serm?

 

[borntowin78]

Or will a good test booster do the trick

 

[Digitalash]

one injection of deca is proven in studies to be enough to drop test levels almost to zero.... Yes bro he needs to do pct ASAP, with a serm like nolva or clomid. Natty "test boosters" are a joke and not even in the same ballpark as what he needs, you should know this as well...

Also how do you know his test was bunk? Why wasn't he running a dopamine agonist like caber/prami from the beginning?

 

[lifterjaydawg]

My friend was 4 weeks into a test and deca cycle when he started developing progestin induced gyno. He found out his test was bunk and his deca was not. He stopped pinning and cleared up his gyno with B6. He did not run a pct. Now its 2 months later and he suspected his natural test was low and got bloodwork, and it came back extremely low. She he do a pct now? Is some hcg necessary or just a serm?

over time it will come back. he should have done a PCT to help recovery and had the tool on hand ot deal with gyno. his fault for rushing and not researching.
deca stays in system for a while tell him to giveit another 1-2 months get more blood work. and for him not to touch ANY sort of AAS.

 

[borntowin78]

I would have advised that he had cabaser on had and do a proper pct. He brought this all to my attention 2 months after the fact. He asked his doctor for advice about his low test level and she wrote him a script for androgel. I. Told him he should still run a proper pct. And hands off the androgel. I wanted reconfirm my advice on here, just to make sure a serm is the right path to take after this amount of time has lapsed. Thanks for the quick responses and advice

 

[Digitalash]

How old is he? Avoid the androgel unless he's really ready for lifetime TRT. You can do a pct at any point, it's not too late. Clomid+aromasin for 4 weeks should get things moving in the right direction, next time make sure he knows what he's doing ahead of time!

Again how did he know his test was bunk though? Did he get bloodwork on cycle or he just assumes because his libido was low or something? If that's the case it could just be because he wasn't running caber and prolactin was causing issues.

 

[XYZ]

Start clomid at 50-100mg ED for 4-6 weeks along with 12.5mg aromasin ED.

 

[SloppyJ]

This wasn't a problem because his test was bunk. This is a problem because he was not prepared.

 

[borntowin78]

Yeah when he called me yesterday about I gave him a world of shit about how wreckless he is being with his body. I think he assumed the test was bunk from the sides he had the gyno and deca dick. He's 33 so know where near ready for hrt. He's run 4 cycles previous and always had hisgear and pct lined up and a solid plan. I don't know what he was thinking. I think its his first time with daca and he did not do the proper research.

 

[FTW34]

dex masin or letro wont help u wen it comes to deca and tren alota bros make this mistake

 

[SloppyJ]

Without a blood test it's all speculation as to what caused the gyno. Either way this is a good lesson on someone's expense on how you HAVE to be prepared and often times OVER prepared. Caber, Aromasin, Letro and even prami. Keep multiple brands incase one is bunk. It's not worth the risk guys.

 

[FTW34]

Without a blood test it's all speculation as to what caused the gyno. Either way this is a good lesson on someone's expense on how you HAVE to be prepared and often times OVER prepared. Caber, Aromasin, Letro and even prami. Keep multiple brands incase one is bunk. It's not worth the risk guys.

agree 100 percent. unfortunately it seems i have more bunk AI's than real ones lately

 

[snakeskinz]

if your friend joins the community he could probably learn many things

 

[XYZ]

agree 100 percent. unfortunately it seems i have more bunk AI's than real ones lately

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