Oatmeal protein vs Egg protein

[hackskii]

I know this is an old post, and although I have not read all the posts I would like to share some information about eggs.

I love eggs. I eat them every day. I have read that cultures that eat alot of eggs live a long time (so much for the cholesterol theory).

Posted this on another thread but some facts about eggs:
What do eggs have in them?
The whites contain niacin, riboflavin, chlorine, magnesium, potassium, sodium and sulfur.

The yolks With the exception of riboflavin and niacin, the yolk contains a higher proportion of the egg's vitamins than the white. All of the egg's vitamins A, D and E are in the yolk. Egg yolks are one of the few foods naturally containing vitamin D.

Eggs also contain LECITHIN, Calcium, thiamin, folic acid and some good fats.

The yolk also contains more phosphorus, manganese, iron, iodine, copper, and calcium than the white, and it contains all of the zinc. The yolk of a Large egg contains about 59 calories.

Some food for thought here, Vitamin D defencies are one of the most common defencies, and beings that Vitamin D is super important for immune system and health, Eggs have them.

Zinc is super important for men and for testosterone production and a mild AI at that, Eggs have them.

If you want to construct a diet use foods that compliment the diffrent macros.
You need fats, protein and carbs, with the exception of carbs you can live without those but not fats and protein.

Protein has 4 calories per gram
Carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram
Fats have 9 calories per gram

For a complete meal you have to add something to the oats.
Because they are low in fats, adding something like butter, nuts, or olive oil, or fish oils all is a good idea.
If you add eggs, add the yolks, that fat wont hurt you, it wont elivate your cholesterol, and tossing some of the goodness from eggs is crazy in my opinion.
Again, it wont hurt your lipid profiles as your body produces 80% of all the cholesterol in the body and cholesterol is he precurser for all sex steroids, and contains lecethin which actually helps to lower cholesterol.

Before someone gets started on butter, nothing wrong with it unless you are eating it by the cube, it contains an anticancer agent called butyrate.

 

[linus420]

egg protein vs oatmeal protein...?? serious?

 

[linus420]

I know this is an old post, and although I have not read all the posts I would like to share some information about eggs.

I love eggs. I eat them every day. I have read that cultures that eat alot of eggs live a long time (so much for the cholesterol theory).

Posted this on another thread but some facts about eggs:
What do eggs have in them?
The whites contain niacin, riboflavin, chlorine, magnesium, potassium, sodium and sulfur.

The yolks With the exception of riboflavin and niacin, the yolk contains a higher proportion of the egg's vitamins than the white. All of the egg's vitamins A, D and E are in the yolk. Egg yolks are one of the few foods naturally containing vitamin D.

Eggs also contain LECITHIN, Calcium, thiamin, folic acid and some good fats.

The yolk also contains more phosphorus, manganese, iron, iodine, copper, and calcium than the white, and it contains all of the zinc. The yolk of a Large egg contains about 59 calories.

Some food for thought here, Vitamin D defencies are one of the most common defencies, and beings that Vitamin D is super important for immune system and health, Eggs have them.

Zinc is super important for men and for testosterone production and a mild AI at that, Eggs have them.

If you want to construct a diet use foods that compliment the diffrent macros.
You need fats, protein and carbs, with the exception of carbs you can live without those but not fats and protein.

Protein has 4 calories per gram
Carbohydrates have 4 calories per gram
Fats have 9 calories per gram

For a complete meal you have to add something to the oats.
Because they are low in fats, adding something like butter, nuts, or olive oil, or fish oils all is a good idea.
If you add eggs, add the yolks, that fat wont hurt you, it wont elivate your cholesterol, and tossing some of the goodness from eggs is crazy in my opinion.
Again, it wont hurt your lipid profiles as your body produces 80% of all the cholesterol in the body and cholesterol is he precurser for all sex steroids, and contains lecethin which actually helps to lower cholesterol.

Before someone gets started on butter, nothing wrong with it unless you are eating it by the cube, it contains an anticancer agent called butyrate.

what about eating them raw ??

 

[hackskii]

I think you mean eggs?

I would nuke them for a brief time to kill the enzyme, but if the egg is clean so no bacteria on the shell is there, you have a good chance nothing will happen.

Vince Giranda years ago swore that his guys made steroid like gains from raw eggs and dessicated liver tablets.
they did take many though and you would have to work yourself up to that.

 

[pritih]

There's 11 grams of protein per serving ??? and in this case the serving size of 81 grams is actually close to what I eat in the morning ??? Just weighed my oatmeal and my serving size is 96 grams.
So I'm getting close to 13 grams of protein in my oatmeal in the morning.
So how does eggs compare to oatmeal, because, there must be large amounts of protein in eggs since my instructor was so insisting on switching oatmeal for eggs.
I looked at the serving size Large because that was the middle size. A large egg is 50 grams and I can now answer the question ???how much protein in an egg????
6 grams according to NutritionData.
So 2 eggs ??? or 100 grams of egg - contains 13 grams of protein ??? same amount as my oh-so-forbidden oatmeal.

 

[ExoticByDesign]

Animal source protein which includes eggs and dairy. Everything else lacks in the amino acids.

It is by combining foods that you get your complete Essential and Non Essential Amino acids that give complete proteins.


Most Americans get TOOOOOOO much protein not enough. Beef is high in fat and so is pork. Fish,( COD is best) Chicken, turkey are less fat. Fish also gives you omega Fatty acids that are very important. Protein is not the only thing needed in a diet. There are many vitamin and minerals. 75% of the Americans are deficient in Vitamin D. Many calcium and iron too. And most Doctors don't do blood tests for all of these until people are severely systematic. FYI only

 

[hackskii]

I think you are looking at the numbers a bit wrong here mate.

Oatmeal is classed as a carbohydrate as its main ingrediants are carbs, it is very low in fats and for its weight low in protein, not to mention that vegetable sources of protein are not as good as animal sources for the full range of amino acids.

Eggs have no carbohydrates yet fats and protein.

The quality of protein of oats vs eggs is hands down the egg, it is the highest bioavailable source of protein of any whole food.

Eggs have no fiber, oats have lots of fiber, comparing the two isnt really a comparison.
Its like comparing vegetables to fruits and even that has more in common than compairing oats to eggs.

 

[min0 lee]

I think you mean eggs?

I would nuke them for a brief time to kill the enzyme, but if the egg is clean so no bacteria on the shell is there, you have a good chance nothing will happen.

Vince Giranda years ago swore that his guys made steroid like gains from raw eggs and dessicated liver tablets.
they did take many though and you would have to work yourself up to that.

Vince Gironda's Nutritional Secret To Gain An Inch On Your Upper Arms

Desiccated Liver Tablets!

Vince had many students gain an inch on their arms within 30 days simply by taking 3 to 5 liver tablets every hour. This insures a positive nitrogen balance without excess carbohydrates and calories.

Stories from some of the old timers telling of phenomenal gains being made on 100 plus liver tablets a day are very common.

Why does it work so well? According to Vince Gironda, desiccated liver contains nucleic acids for proper amino-acid utilization, a growth factor and an anti-estrogen factor, which keeps testosterone levels high, and it is also a great anti-toxin.

A Classic Research Study
on Desiccated Liver

In a classic experiment, Dr. B. H. Ershoff demonstrated that liver extract was able to boost strength, endurance, performance, and resistance to stress and disease. In a nutshell here's how this occurred:

Dr. Ershoff took three groups of rats and fed them controlled diets for a twelve week period. Group one ate a basic diet fortified with vitamins and minerals. Group two ate as much as they wanted of the same diet plus B vitamins and brewer???s yeast. Group three ate the basic diet but had 10% desiccated liver added to their rations.

Then the doctor placed the rats one by one into a drum of water of which they could not climb out. It was either sink or swim... literally!

The group one rats swam an average of 13.2 minutes before they all drowned. Group two, an average of 13.4 minutes. Group three, however, was still swimming at the end of two hours, at which time the experiment was concluded.

The rats that had the desiccated liver added to their diets swam almost 10 times as long as the other two groups! As far as I know, no other supplement has even come close to liver in improving endurance.

Desiccated liver flat out works!

So take old Vince Gironda's advice and try adding desiccated liver to your supplement program. The addition of only 8 to 10 desiccated liver tablets per meal for five meals per day can make a tremendous difference in your condition. This simple-but-effective supplement program will add approximately 65 grams of the highest quality protein to your daily intake.

Sincerely,

 

[ExoticByDesign]

what about eating them raw ??

Salmonella can come from raw eggs and passed onto others. As far as egg yokes go.....you can get all those vitamin and minerals from things you can add to egg whites.

The body makes cholesterol and you can change your diet and exercise and still get high cholesterol. That is why even fit people need a pill to combat it. Fats are needed in our diets but not the amounts most people think are acceptable.

 

[hackskii]

Yah, I have seen that study and Vinces stuff, I am a big fan of Vince, clearly ahead of his time.

It is also said that there are unknown growth factors in dessicated liver.

It can be bought in huge tubs just like protein powders and you can buy it here: Argentine Beef Liver Powder

It runs
5 pounds $80.00

Lots of articles on this stuff off that site.

 

[hackskii]

Salmonella can come from raw eggs and passed onto others. As far as egg yokes go.....you can get all those vitamin and minerals from things you can add to egg whites.

The body makes cholesterol and you can change your diet and exercise and still get high cholesterol. That is why even fit people need a pill to combat it. Fats are needed in our diets but not the amounts most people think are acceptable.

Why remove the yolk and replace it with something else?
Im lost.

Do you really think you need a pill to keep cholesterol in check?

Did you know that over 100 years ago epileptic people were put on diets high in fat and protein to stop from having seizures?
To this day it is still used when drugs cant stop seizures with people who suffer from epilepsy.

People with low cholesterol are associated with sickness and even cancer.
Now the million dollar question is this.
Does low cholesterol cause cancer or is cancer causing low cholesterol.

Statin drugs when first come to the market killed more people than were designed to protect.
Statins are bad and have some super nasty side effects, and is the highest perscribed drug in the US.

Read the book the great cholesterol myth.
You can not live without fats, you can live on protein and fats for a very long healthy life.

 

[min0 lee]

Yah, I have seen that study and Vinces stuff, I am a big fan of Vince, clearly ahead of his time.

It is also said that there are unknown growth factors in dessicated liver.

It can be bought in huge tubs just like protein powders and you can buy it here: Argentine Beef Liver Powder

It runs
5 pounds $80.00

Lots of articles on this stuff off that site.

When I first started some 2o years ago all I took was Argentine dessicated liver and a shot of B12 once a month...lol only thing about Des. liver i didn't like was the gas it gave me.

 

[min0 lee]

Yolk is good.

 

[ExoticByDesign]

And it starts again..... WOW is right.

 

[hackskii]

And it starts again..... WOW is right.

What starts again?
The fat phobia?

The Framingham Heart Study is often cited as proof of the lipid hypothesis. This study began in 1948 and involved some 6,000 people from the town of Framingham, Massachusetts. Two groups were compared at five-year intervals???those who consumed little cholesterol and saturated fat and those who consumed large amounts. After 40 years, the director of this study had to admit: "In Framingham, Mass, the more saturated fat one ate, the more cholesterol one ate, the more calories one ate, the lower the person's serum cholesterol. . . we found that the people who ate the most cholesterol, ate the most saturated fat, ate the most calories, weighed the least and were the most physically active."3 The study did show that those who weighed more and had abnormally high blood cholesterol levels were slightly more at risk for future heart disease; but weight gain and cholesterol levels had an inverse correlation with fat and cholesterol intake in the diet.4

Or:
In a multi-year British study involving several thousand men, half were asked to reduce saturated fat and cholesterol in their diets, to stop smoking and to increase the amounts of unsaturated oils such as margarine and vegetable oils. After one year, those on the "good" diet had 100% more deaths than those on the "bad" diet, in spite of the fact that those men on the "bad" diet continued to smoke! But in describing the study, the author ignored these results in favor of the politically correct conclusion: "The implication for public health policy in the U.K. is that a preventive programme such as we evaluated in this trial is probably effective. . . ."5

What about the French Paradox?
I mean I could go on but it would be pointless.

High fat diets are not unhealthy.
High carb diets are not unhealthy.
High fat, high carb diets are unhealthy.

Taking the yolk out of the egg in the thought of helping your diet and good health, would be like adding in frosted flakes thinking the grains are good for you.

 

[ExoticByDesign]

Why remove the yolk and replace it with something else?
Im lost.

Do you really think you need a pill to keep cholesterol in check?

Did you know that over 100 years ago epileptic people were put on diets high in fat and protein to stop from having seizures?
To this day it is still used when drugs cant stop seizures with people who suffer from epilepsy.

People with low cholesterol are associated with sickness and even cancer.
Now the million dollar question is this.
Does low cholesterol cause cancer or is cancer causing low cholesterol.

Statin drugs when first come to the market killed more people than were designed to protect.
Statins are bad and have some super nasty side effects, and is the highest perscribed drug in the US.

Read the book the great cholesterol myth.
You can not live without fats, you can live on protein and fats for a very long healthy life.

First you remove the yolk to replace with something healthier with the same benefits.

Some People do because Hereditary factors. Like I said the body naturally makes it and in some cases diet and exercise doesn't control it and vice versa is true also but since I am not a medical doctor and you must be I will let your argument stand. This is a medical fact. Read the medical journals. Fats are not what I was referring too and there are good fats and bad. I read many books for my Masters and to become a Dietitian. You can call a tomato rice but it is still a tomato. And you are right you cannot live without fats but the good fats. Fats are the low fat diet. Monounsaturated are best, Saturated fats are worse. And years ago we were not the Nintendo DS, WII etc couch potatoes that most people are now. People worked in fields and worked hard. Needing a higher fat diet because they used it up. Of course years ago people died younger too. If you look at death certificates most were heart related.

And sometimes, just like in politics, you have to pick between the lesser of two evils. My Uncle has epilepsy. And he has to do both to control his seizures. He also runs with his wife but has to now take medication because they can't get his bad cholesterol below 300, most likely do to gene and diet. But I think you are missing the point of what this thread was asking. But there are always exceptions. Medicine is a science.

There are people who are anti medication. That is their right. You get to chose between stroke and heart attacks or not. I exercise( run 5 miles) daily and weights 3 days a week. I ride my bike 2 miles to work and back ( not in the winter) not to mention dancing and walking that I do. I eat a low fat diet and my cholesterol is still high. My Dad was very active and his was 500 when diagnosed. We raised what we ate and it was no red meats due to Mom having heart problems. My two oldest brothers, fit trim and active have it too. So, I live your "myth".

 

[min0 lee]

You want your account deleted all because of this post?
No one was rude to you. I see two people having an intelligent conversation.....but I can see the meltdown.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/n...118106-new-delete-my-account.html#post2127551

 

[ExoticByDesign]

Yolk is good.

Yes it is but not for everyones best interest.

 

[ExoticByDesign]

You want your account deleted all because of this post?
No one was rude to you. I see two people having an intelligent conversation.....but I can see the meltdown.

Thank you and never said they were. Just have better things to do than play I know more then you game. And I believe it is rude to have people make replies to someone that will not answer. Which is why I am removing my account. You all enjoy.

Fact: If I cannot talk to you face to face you miss a lot of what is being said. I only found this site googling for information for a friend. At 51 years old, I just have no desire for this so I leave it to the younger.

 

[hackskii]

Well, deta as you suggest is not there, the egg yolk is the most nutritious part of the egg, it wont raise your cholesterol risk, it has A,D,E,K fat soluble vitamins and one of the only occuring cources in D and that is one of the worlds most common defency.

The colesterol in the egg wont raise your cholesterol, in fact cholesterol is the building block of many structures in the body and its presence in the blood actually means that something is wrong and is trying to repair some done to artery walls.
The fact that your fathers cholesterol is high isnt from his diet, but from something elsee.
This is like an ambulance driver being at the sceene of a car crash association them with the cause.

Cholesterol is the buiding block of all sex hormones, taking drugs to lower this is crazy, lowering the very substance that by design to help you (protect you) in the hopes of lowering heart disease is crazy.

Did you know that free range eggs have 19 times the Omega 3 fatty acids of pasturized eggs?
Did you know that they have good fats in them?
Did you know they have lecethin in them which lower cholesterol?
The yolk is the part that nourshes the developing embryo.

Low fat diets are not healthier than high fat diets as the macro's have to come from another source and generally that will be carbohydrates.
Now as you know being a Dietitian fat is stored from other sources of food like carbohydrates.
Carbohydrates store fats as triglycerides and this fat is worse than the fat injested.
Too many carbohydrates spike insulin, insulin is a storage hormone and over time many people become insulin resistant, which is most people by the way.
hyperinsulinemia is more common than ever.
This causes chronic inflammation, this factor causes more problems than fat ever did and causes type II diabetese.
In case you have not figured it out, this is getting more common than ever and is on the incline.

What slows down type II diabetese and insulin resistance? lower GI carobhydrates, exercise and good fats.

You mentioned monounsaturated fats being best, well I got news for you, you have to have saturated fats in your diet for good health period, and about a third of those need to be saturated in your diet.
Hell, even butter has butyrate which is a known anti-cancer substance.

One of the biggest problem in the states is that of processed foods and hydrogenated oils, trans fats and polyunsaturated fats.
Yes polyunsaturated fats is a big deal and should be limited.
The ratio fo Omega 3's to Omega 6's ideally is 1 to 1, and 1 to 4, with the introduction of Omega 6's as commonly in most packaged foods and cooking oils the ratio is 1 to 10, and 1 to 25.
This causes the prostaglandins Pg-2 to elivate AA and cause inflammation in the body.

Again, cholesterol is a protective substance, lowering it with pills (statins) depending on the person is a very bad idea, side effects range from, impaired digestion of fats, muscle weakness and pain, cognitive function impairment, memory loss, heel pain and sore feet, lower libido, loss of hormones, heart muscle loss, depletion of Co-Q10, decline in left ventricular function, dizziness, depress immune system, acute pancreatitis, depression, etc and the list is long, not to mention liver damage.

Statin drugs killed more people than they were designed to protect in the begenning.

I applaud you for your reading on stuff, but you have been sold a lie, and lets not forget that the largest drugs perscribed in the United States are Statin drugs.

I have much material for you to read, probably more than you have but then again, you wont read it and seem to think that what I say is a myth.

Your dads high cholesterol being treated by symptom and not source will one day be his demise.

Doctors are here to treat, not prevent, prevention is easy if you know what you are doing, your dad can lower his cholesterol very easy and better than the drugs he takes and live a better quality of life.
But by all means do not listen to me, I only want to help.....lol

 

[hackskii]

Thank you and never said they were. Just have better things to do than play I know more then you game. And I believe it is rude to have people make replies to someone that will not answer. Which is why I am removing my account. You all enjoy.

Fact: If I cannot talk to you face to face you miss a lot of what is being said. I only found this site googling for information for a friend. At 51 years old, I just have no desire for this so I leave it to the younger.

I am 51 too.

Eggs are not bad, they wont elivate your cholesterol, in fact they will elivate overall cholesterol both good and bad and not even change the ratio to suggest that they give you any risk factors.

 

[jackanderson]

According to me eggs are having more protein than oatmeal.

 

[vortrit]

Yolk is good.

I always eat the yolks. I could see not eating them if you were on a serious cutting diet for a show or something, but otherwise...

 

[Vlakkie]

eating a lot of eggs,will this not charge up your colestrol level?

 

[mgoodbar]

nice info guys what about cashews???? i eat them to, not to tread jack,

 

[min0 lee]

I eat oatmeal and 3 eggs for breakfast every work day.

 

[sara]

I eat oatmeal and 3 eggs for breakfast every work day.

You can make an oatmeal pancake out of this w some berries