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Under heavy pressure by congressional Democrats to fix Obamacare, President Barack Obama announced Thursday that the administration will allow insurance companies to keep individual customers on their existing plans for an additional year, even if the plans don't meet the law's standards.

The president's plan does not require the insurance companies to take back the Americans they kicked off, but does give them the option of taking the customers back if they want. The government will inform state insurance commissioners that they have permission to allow insurers to offer the out-of-date private plans for an additional year. It's up to them whether to allow them to continue or not.
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Obama has been caught between two problems of his administration?s own making: millions of cancellations of individual health care coverage despite his pledge that ?if you like your plan, you can keep it? and a botched federal website that was supposed to allow Americans to buy new insurance.

"I completely get how upsetting this can be for a lot of Americans," a contrite Obama told reporters Thursday afternoon. "Americans whose plans have been canceled can choose to enroll in the same kind of plan."

The cancellations, estimated to affect up to 7 million Americans, are due to new standards in the Affordable Care Act that insurance companies are required to meet. Those who received cancellations were expected to go on to the new federal insurance marketplace ? which has been plagued by tech problems since its Oct. 1 rollout ? and purchase coverage there. About 5 percent of insured Americans get their insurance on the individual market.
But it remains unclear whether insurance companies will rescind the cancellations they?ve already handed out, since the Obama administration is not requiring them to do so. And the extension is only for one year, so the fix only delays the fact that many Americans will not be able to keep their current insurance under the new law.

The administration argues that many of the canceled plans were subpar and that many people can buy better insurance for less on the federal marketplace. The law significantly overhauled the individual insurance market, prohibiting plans that kick people off if they become sick or hiking premiums due to illness, among other reforms.

Obama said he believes the Affordable Care Act will work, but admitted the rollout of the exchanges has been bad. "We fumbled the rollout of this health care law," he said. The president added that he was not informed that the glitches in HealthCare.gov were so extensive and crippling ? he believed they were minor and not systemic before Oct. 1.
With his second term ? and his legacy ? in the balance, Obama frequently seemed deflated, almost defeated, light-years away from his soaring ?audacity of hope? or the ?fierce urgency of now? that powered his eager first term.Things will get better, he promised, ?if we can just get the darn website working and smooth this thing out.?
?I make no apologies for us taking this on because somebody, sooner or later, had to do it,? the president said. ?I do make apologies for not having executed better over the last several months.?
And he offered worried and angry congressional Democrats ? many of whom fear the Affordable Care Act will prove a potent Republican weapon in the 2014 midterm elections ? a kind of ?I feel your pain? moment.
?There is no doubt that our failure to roll out the ACA smoothly has put a burden on Democrats, whether they're running or not, because they stood up and supported this effort through thick and thin and, you know, I feel deeply responsible for making it harder for them rather than easier for them,? he said. ?We?re letting them down.?
But he took more personal responsibility for the botched rollout than he has before in public.
?There have been times where I thought we, you know, got slapped around a little bit unjustly. This one's deserved, all right? It's on us,? he said.
After promising on Oct. 1 that buying insurance on the federal website would work ?the same way you?d shop for a plane ticket on Kayak or a TV on Amazon,? a more chastened Obama acknowledged that ?buying health insurance is never going to be like buying a song on iTunes.?
He denied any deliberate attempt to mislead the public or that he was hasty in rolling out the website even as internal tests showed it would fail.
?I'm accused of a lot of things, but I don't think I'm stupid enough to go around saying, ?this is going to be like shopping on Amazon or Travelocity,? a week before the website opens, if I thought that it wasn't going to work,? he said.
As he closed the press conference, Obama dug for a more upbeat, combative message.
?Part of this job is, the things that go right, you guys aren't going to write about. The things that go wrong get prominent attention; that's how it's always been. That's not unique to me as president, and I'm up to the challenge,? he said.
Democrats crafted a bill that would require insurance companies to keep on the millions of customers, pressuring Obama to make the fix. Sen. Mary Landrieu, the bill's sponsor, said in a statement that she appreciated the president's announcement and would continue to "support legislation to fix this problem."
Republicans, meanwhile, have pounded away at Obama?s false promise and failed website to hammer home their message that the president is neither honest nor a competent manager.

"There is no way to fix this," Republican House Speaker John Boehner said. "I am highly skeptical that they can do this administratively."
Obama's statement is part of an all-out push to rescue the law. The White House was to host Senate Democrats later in the day, while chief of staff Denis McDonough was expected on Capitol Hill to reassure House Democrats
 
still a terrible law, but he finally made the decision he should have on this small portion of the law
 
I have no plans of doing a fucking thing, Obama and the Feds can stick it up their ass!
 
"Under heavy pressure by congressional Democrats to fix Obamacare, President Barack Obama announced Thursday that the administration will allow insurance companies to keep individual customers on their existing plans for an additional year, even if the plans don't meet the law's standards."




wtf? It's official, we now have a dictator, not a president. And no ones saying a word? unreal.......
 
damn, so it's been pushed back a year. gets the dogs off him for now, but it certainly saddles this problem come the elections. the next democrat is going to have an interesting millstone around their neck
 
Obama will go down as the worst president ever,from past to even future.And just wait until a year is over total chaos will happen again
 
Political smoke and mirrors by teflon Obamablunder.

To comply with the ACA aka. Obamablundercare, insurance companies terminated the policies that were not allowed under the law, created new insurance policies and rate structures submitted and received state insurance commissioner approvals.
They are now placed in a position of having to submit revised policies and rate structures to every state insurance commissioner in all states that they operate in.
Then get commissioner approvals, and resign people back up for those insurance policies.
Come Jan 1 due to all of the Insurance process end to end completion time requirements, it's highly likely that many people that had their old policies terminated due to Obamablundercare implementation screwups aka. Obama administration created cluster fucks, are going to find themselves uninsured.

Obamablunder in chief and the Democrats running for election next year that voted for Obamablundercare can then blame the insurance companies for a problem that Obamablunder in chief and his administration caused in the first place.
 
the way they are going to pull it off for the next election is that this is a working project something this big can not happen over night. We need a democrat in office. This political campaign bull shit today is crap. Everything with both parties is only about what they can do for the individual. Whats in it for me, I want a president that actually wants to do whats good for the country.
 
 
the way they are going to pull it off for the next election is that this is a working project something this big can not happen over night. We need a democrat in office. This political campaign bull shit today is crap. Everything with both parties is only about what they can do for the individual. Whats in it for me, I want a president that actually wants to do whats good for the country.

When 100 million+ taxpayer dollars are involved I want competency and leadership in a President.
Not ineptitude, failure of leadership and political games as to promises a president made that he knew were not true for political reasons.
"You can keep your insurance if you want".
I don't care if it's a Democratic or Republican president
I do not think that demonstrating a lack of integrity as to lying to the American people for political purposes is "good for the country".

These are politicians and everything they do is to try and gain political advantage.
They will intentionally lie if it suits their purpose.

As to Obamablundercare, it's political and a tax increase in nature.
The political intent is to force healthy people to pay more for their health care insurance aka. tax them a higher rate, in-order to subsidize insurance for other people.
The Supreme Court ruled that Obamablundercare had to be considered a tax for it to be lawful.

Obamablundercare is not going to reduce health care costs.
If anything any cost savings seen by insuring uninsured people are going to be offset by the increased health care insurance tax on the people that will be paying to subsidize health care costs for other people.

The winners in this are the insurance companies.
 
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Political decisions made by the Obama administration created this problem in the first place.
Decisions made as to implementation of Obamablundercare were politically driven and is based on adherence to socialist tax / wealth transference ideology, it is not driven by the desire to do anything "good for the country".
Even if these decisions placed at risk the millions of taxpayer dollars that these politicians have consumed on Obamablundercare like it is the candy in their own personal candy store.

"We foresee a train wreck"

Entire Obamablundercare train-wreck article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/13/u...at-health-portal.html?hpw&pagewanted=all&_r=0

From the Start, Signs of Trouble at Health Portal
By ROBERT PEAR, SHARON LaFRANIERE and IAN AUSTEN
Published: October 12, 2013

WASHINGTON In March, Henry Chao, the chief digital architect for the Obama administrations new online insurance marketplace, told industry executives that he was deeply worried about the Web sites debut. Lets just make sure its not a third-world experience, he told them.

Interviews with two dozen contractors, current and former government officials, insurance executives and consumer advocates, as well as an examination of confidential administration documents, point to a series of missteps financial, technical and managerial that led to the troubles.


Politics made things worse. To avoid giving ammunition to Republicans opposed to the project, the administration put off issuing several major rules until after last Novembers elections. The Republican-controlled House blocked funds. More than 30 states refused to set up their own exchanges, requiring the federal government to vastly expand its project in unexpected ways.
The stakes rose even higher when Congressional opponents forced a government shutdown in the latest fight over the health care law, which will require most Americans to have health insurance. Administration officials dug in their heels, repeatedly insisting that the project was on track despite evidence to the contrary.


Deadline after deadline was missed. The biggest contractor, CGI Federal, was awarded its $94 million contract in December 2011. But the government was so slow in issuing specifications that the firm did not start writing software code until this spring, according to people familiar with the process. As late as the last week of September, officials were still changing features of the Web site, HealthCare.gov, and debating whether consumers should be required to register and create password-protected accounts before they could shop for health plans.


One highly unusual decision, reached early in the project, proved critical: the Medicare and Medicaid agency assumed the role of project quarterback, responsible for making sure each separately designed database and piece of software worked with the others, instead of assigning that task to a lead contractor.

Some people intimately involved in the project seriously doubted that the agency had the in-house capability to handle such a mammoth technical task of software engineering while simultaneously supervising 55 contractors. An internal government progress report in September 2011 identified a lack of employees to manage the multiple activities and contractors happening concurrently as a major risk to the whole project.
While some branches of the military have large software engineering departments capable of acting as the so-called system integrator, often on medium-size weapons projects, the rest of the federal government typically does not, said Stan Soloway, the president and chief executive of the Professional Services Council, which represents 350 government contractors. CGI officials have publicly said that while their company created the system?s overall software framework, the Medicare and Medicaid agency was responsible for integrating and testing all the combined components.


By early this year, people inside and outside the federal bureaucracy were raising red flags. We foresee a train wreck, an insurance executive working on information technology said in a February interview. We don't have the I.T. specifications. The level of angst in health plans is growing by leaps and bounds. The political people in the administration do not understand how far behind they are.
The Government Accountability Office, an investigative arm of Congress, warned in June that many challenges had to be overcome before the Oct. 1 rollout.
 
Anyone that thinks that the decisions that are being made by politicians about Obamablundercare are not political, instead are for the "good of the country" and for the benefit for consumers need to do a bit of reading.
Obamablundercare is politically driven and it is based adherence to socialist tax / wealth transference ideology.

The political intent and the Obamablundercare funding model is to force healthy people to pay more for their health care insurance aka. tax them a higher premium rate, force healthy young people to buy insurance policies that contain benefits they don't need.
All to force higher insurance premium costs on healthy people in-order to subsidize insurance for other people.
As this article illustrates.

"in the political climate we are in, it is a nightmare for the consumer."

Entire Obamablundercare train-wreck article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/16/b...on-proposals-workability.html?pagewanted=2&hp

After Obama Meeting, Insurers Question Plans Workability


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Gabriella Demczuk/The New York Times
President Obama met Friday with executives of more than a dozen of the nation?s largest health insurance companies in the Roosevelt Room at the White House.

By REED ABELSON and SUSANNE CRAIG
Michael Shear contributed reporting.

Published: November 15, 2013

At the meeting, insurers emphasized their concerns that the presidents proposal could actually lead to higher insurance prices in 2015 and beyond by skewing the mix of customers in the new insurance marketplace. In other words, people who now have cheaper insurance because their plans have fewer benefits may still choose to keep them, rather than buying the new policies. Generally, those people are thought to be younger and healthier.
Insurers emphasized that the new insurance markets would need to have a balanced mix of people, including the young and healthy. They and White House officials discussed ways to address the insurers concerns that the balance would be disrupted if more people than expected kept their old coverage throughout the year as well.

Logan Harrison, chief deputy commissioner of the Indiana Department of Insurance, said his state had not decided how to proceed but the fact that they were having to scramble to do anything was maddening. This is absurd, he said. The president, he said, made a purely political decision that punts his problem squarely into the laps of state insurance commissioners. Its unfair to us and our citizens. A number of other state officials, both Democrats and Republicans, echoed Mr. Harrison?s frustration but were not willing to speak on the record.

Sandy Praeger, the Kansas insurance commissioner, is still trying to work out how to deal with the roughly 9,000 people in her state who received cancellation policies. No matter what happens next, she said, the consumer will get the short end of the stick.
Insurance is complicated to start with, she said This, in the best-case scenario, would be a problem, but in the political climate we are in, it is a nightmare for the consumer.
 
Obama will go down as the worst president ever,from past to even future.And just wait until a year is over total chaos will happen again

.........Bush is the worst president ever !!!!!!!!!!

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but.....but....Romney strapped his poor doggie's carrier to the roof of his car!!!!! lol LW where you at? :coffee:
 
Bush had -and will have- the worst approval rating term ending. Him and Dick should both be in prison. I don't agree with the ACA but do believe universal healthcare could work being structured right.. Give me a candidate that has the right mentality and goals and I'll entertain that vote! But to say Obama is changing the constitution is outlandish.

fuck the tea party tho...:coffee:
 
Bush had -and will have- the worst approval rating term ending. Him and Dick should both be in prison. I don't agree with the ACA but do believe universal healthcare could work being structured right.. Give me a candidate that has the right mentality and goals and I'll entertain that vote! But to say Obama is changing the constitution is outlandish.

fuck the tea party tho...:coffee:

he's not changing the constitution, he just doesn't adhere to it when it doesn't fit into his political agenda.
 
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