OCEANGURL01 : Your JOURNAL

[Jodi]

wheres the slow burning carbs that you are suppose to be having?

 

[Freeman]

w8, don't you think she needs a post-workout shake?

 

[oceangurl01]

jodi, i would have oatmeal, apple, and other slow burning carbs only twice a week in one meal.
like saturday i might add oatmeal or apple into my # 2 meal

 

[butterfly]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
meal # 2 shrimp ( microwave) spinach, olive oil
30 p, 13 f, 1 c from spinach
meal # 3 fish fillet, lots of lettuce, apple vinegar, spices,
more shrimp, olive oil
30 p, 13 f, 0 c (is there any carb of what im eating)
is that ok ?????

Are those fresh fish fillets, frozen, or what???

 

[oceangurl01]

ya they frozen. and microwavable.......

 

[Freeman]

not the best choice. try to get fresh fish...and if you don't have time to cook it, try making it the night before or earlier in the week..cook a bunch at once and then wrap and refrigerate the rest.

 

[oceangurl01]

i know... i dont always eat them! im usually eating shrimp, sardines, tuna, chicken breast, turkey

 

[oceangurl01]

ok, my meals for today! sunday ( no workout)

meal # 1 3 egg whites and 2 yolk
lean ham (turkey)
cooked liver
1/2 serving of peanuts (shell)

meal # 2 protein shake, whipping cream

meal # 3 1 canned tuna, olive oil (some celery)

meal # 4 chicken, lettuce, celery, broccli

total: protein ~ 117 grams
carbs~ 16 grams (not counting the veggies)
fat~ 55 grams

my carbs are low because i didnt go to the gym today!

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
ok, my meals for today! sunday ( no workout)

meal # 1 3 egg whites and 2 yolk
lean ham (turkey)
cooked liver
1/2 serving of peanuts (shell)

meal # 2 protein shake, whipping cream

meal # 3 1 canned tuna, olive oil (some celery)

meal # 4 chicken, lettuce, celery, broccli

total: protein ~ 117 grams
carbs~ 16 grams (not counting the veggies)
fat~ 55 grams

my carbs are low because i didnt go to the gym today!

That's only 1027 calories....way too low...and although "what" you are eating has gr8ly improved since you have been here....

...your metabolism Wiil NOT if you eat this way.

And when you have "bigger eating days"....your body will want to "store fat" because it thinks you are going to starve it again!

JMHO


DP

 

[oceangurl01]

so what should i add to my meals???

 

[oceangurl01]

meal # 4 i had another serving of peanuts

 

[oceangurl01]

my meals for tomorrow

meal # 1 1 scoop protein shake, cream (whipping cream) before school.
meal # 2 2 serving of tofu cheese
3 egg whites, 1 yolk
celery
meal # 3 1 scoop protein shake, cream (whipping cream) 30 minutes before i finish my workout

meal # 4 1 can tuna, 1 slice fat-free cheese (melted)
1/2 serving peanuts (shelled)
lots of veggies (green) with vinegar
7 small olives = 1 gram of carb, 1 gram of fat


have starbucks coffee or some tea from starbucks

p ~ 101
c ~ 16 ( veggies not included) and starbucks not included... no carbs in plain coffee or tea right????
f ~ 55

my workout ~~~ lower body
walking lunges ( 6 sets) with 10lbs weight
seated calves (5 sets)
standing calves (5 sets)
3 other machines i dont know what they called ( 5 sets each)

work on ABS
lower ( 5 sets) 20 reps
upper (5 sets) 40-50 reps
and some of the excersie ball

 

[w8lifter]

Eat MORE of what you're eating...cause now you're eating the right foods...just not enough. And add some carbs!

If you posted serving sizes it would be much easier to help you!

We can't tell you how much more cream to have if we don't know what you're having now.

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
Dr. Pain, you saw my meals and you said thats too low!
my carb intake is low now! what happens if i have 50-70 grams of carbs 2 times a week? would that make me gain weight back??
( at the 50-70 carbs day i would have apple, oatmeal, brown rice)

IT'S NOT ABOUT WEIGHT! It's about Body Compostion!

Originally posted by w8lifter
OG You are not getting enough calories...THAT is what is making you fat.....not 70 g of slow burning carbs a day!!!

Apple, oatmeal, brown rice are all good carbs....please add them to your meals every day and start eating for Health and you may just start losing fat! You should be concerned that you're not feeding your body enough food....it's only eating away at your muscles when you do that!

OG....this has to be done gradually, and you need a fifth meal ASAP, you are slowing your thyroid function and your ability to BURN fat......you will add 2-4 pounds, but it will NOT be fat...it will be water from additional glycogen.

You are in the same position as when you got here.....'Compromised Metabolism"...We can not proceed because your calories ARE TOO LOW...and we have NOWHERE TO GO!

You will notice in w8's journal....I asked her to reply to you....because it is too frutrating for me...YOU DO NOT LISTEN.....had you done the first program I designed for you (individually, and only for you) you'd be in the midddle of your Second Program right now (First tweak) and losing Fat

And you'd be at 1500 plus calories, and have room for two more adjustments over the following 6-10 weeks. Now...as I have said....you have "nowhere to go" except starvation levels....which will tell your body to "Store fat" when ever food is in abundance (like a cheat...or even a higher calorie day), and deplete LBM because it is too costly on the body because of the limeted fuel you are consuming.

OG.....You need to go back and reread evertything since you came...for content and comprehension!

You have the option of doing things your way, or however you like, but I will not be talking w/you again until your calories are at least 10 per pound of BW for 5-7 days...then 11 for another 5-7 days, and then 12!

Your protein needs to be increased also, you need to post water....and get at least 5 meals.


Good Luck


DP

 

[oceangurl01]

ok ill try this again:

meal # 1 3 egg whites, 1 whole, cream cheese, 1 serving peanuts

meal # 2 protein shake,whipping cream, 1/2 apple (post workout)

meal # 3 tuna, cheese, broccoli, lettuce, celery, califlower, olive oil, olives

meal # 4 shrimp soup! (shrimp, spinach, olive oil)

meal # 5 im not sure what to eat!!!! any suggestions????

 

[tigress]

You still aren't posting your serving sizes. Or your totals. Why don't you sign up for

www.fitday.com

and start logging your food there?

 

[oceangurl01]

1 serving of cream cheese
the veggies were 2 serving each!
shrimp 2 servings
1 can tuna
1 teaspoon of olive oil
7 olives

 

[oceangurl01]

you know how im down to 20-30 carbs a day! would i gain weight if i add 1/3 cup oatmeal or apple to my 20-30 carbs (daily??

 

[w8lifter]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
you know how im down to 20-30 carbs a day! would i gain weight if i add 1/3 cup oatmeal or apple to my 20-30 carbs (daily??

OMG!!!!!!

Originally posted by w8lifter
OG You are not getting enough calories...THAT is what is making you fat.....not 70 g of slow burning carbs a day!!!

Apple, oatmeal, brown rice are all good carbs....please add them to your meals every day and start eating for Health and you may just start losing fat! You should be concerned that you're not feeding your body enough food....it's only eating away at your muscles when you do that!

 

[Stacey]

GEEZ ARE YOU Illiterate????????????????

 

[P-funk]

I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh but it is just to damn funny. OG, everyday I see you ask the same question about your diet in every forum (even the training forum!!!!???). Why don't you listen to everyone for once. In all honesty I can't believe w8 and DP still help you. I would have completely lost it a long time ago.

 

[Stacey]

LoL!

All I have to say is W8 & DP Have a lot of patients for this chick!

 

[butterfly]

But w8... how is not getting enough calories making me fat

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by butterfly
But w8... how is not getting enough calories making me fat

The body's metabolism will slow to match the calorie deficiency (also compromising thyroid fuction),.... and if weight loss does not completely slow or stall out, when BW is lost....the body will preferentially choose LBM over fat. It will sacrifice the LMB as that takes calories, as in FOOD to preserve and maintain.

You see every pound of LBM can burn 30-50 calories a day. Fat requires very little energy to maintain.......if you starve the body.....not only will it hold on the fat stores to endure this famine....when calories are increased.....it will ADD to those fat stores to ensure survival throughout the next famine.

The triple Whammy is that the lost LBM....for those concerned with weight loss, instead of FAT LOSS, would have burned the "extra" calories, possibly BF calories had you not sacrificed it! JMHO


DP

 

[butterfly]

Didn't you see the after that DP...

Or did you want to answer the question b/c you KNEW she'd ask it for real???

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by Princess
LoL!

All I have to say is W8 & DP Have a lot of patients for this chick!

I would say they have had more than enough patience with OG! This goes on everyday and everyday DP & w8 answer her and then the next day she asks again.

I would go out of my fuqing mind!

I give DP & w8 alot of credit for helping people out like this for free!

 

[Dr. Pain]

Here is a classic and true example, just happened today

C= Customer 5'3" 140 pounds....est 20-22% BF
DP = me

C: Do you have a Product called X-Rated Maximim Definition Formula

DP: No, you can't get Maximim definition with a pill

C: Well I get 2 hours of cardio everyday and eat healthy but I'm not able to lose any weight, I'm going on a cruise in one month and have to lose before it

So at this point we talk about thermos...and I start to explain Nutrition and sensible exercise to her

DP: How long have you been doing this much cardio

C: Years

DP: Is it working?

C: No

DP: What was you Healthy Breakfast? (I had first asked her how many times a day she ate.......and she didn't know...lol....finally said 2 to 3

C: Oatmeal

DP: Slow cooked or instant

C: Instant

DP: What else?

C: Nothing

So I explain a few things to her at this point...and then

DP: What did you have for lunch

C: Well I haven't had lunch yet (It was 2 PM)
I will probably have some chicken

So I explain how this is setting up fat storage....no matter what she eats

DP: Dinner?

C: She didn't answer........said it varies

DP: So you're barely eating, doing 2 hours a day of cardio. Is it working?

C: NO?

DP: You need to do some resistance training and decrease cardio, increase meal frequency gradually...etc..whole speech

C: Oh I do resistance training too...EVERYDAY...upper body then lower body then repeat...oh I take Sundays off and just do cardio

DP: how long have you been doing this for?

C: Years

DP: Same W/O

C; Oh Yes!

DP: Last time......IS IT WORKING?

C: um...no


At this point WARLORD and I nicely double teamed her .....she left with a whole new set of ideas which I'd say there is a 90% chance of her ignoring...and being overfat for life and eventually arthritic at an early age

and this happens every freakin day!

DP

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by butterfly
Didn't you see the after that DP...

Or did you want to answer the question b/c you KNEW she'd ask it for real???

Ann, you did sarcasm?

Damn fooled the hell out of me!

DP

 

[Stacey]

Originally posted by Jodi
I would say they have had more than enough patience with OG! This goes on everyday and everyday DP & w8 answer her and then the next day she asks again.

I would go out of my fuqing mind!

I give DP & w8 alot of credit for helping people out like this for free!

Girl I TOTALLY AGREE W/ you!! I would go NUTS If I were them!! I read her Journal everyday...and I JUST WANT TO SCREAM Everyday..especially when I see her in other sections asking the same crap!!

w8 & DP~ You guys deserve GOLD MEDALS!!!!

 

[oceangurl01]

you guys are so great!!!!! talking nice things about me