OCEANGURL01 : Your JOURNAL

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
thank you for the fast reply... i dont like egg yolks ... so you said i can eat almonds in one of my meals... and peanuts in the other meal. and the other 3 meals i need other fat source??? i can't have 5 meals of nuts fat source??? chicken, tuna, protein shake that i have are low fat! like 2-4 grams of fat only and i need at least 10 grams ...

I just posted 10 or more fat sources....I deeply suggest you don't have nuts in 5 meals...and that you DON'T get only 2-4 grams with your protein.


OG....nut's are calorically dense..there is more there than just fat...there are a lot of calories and often sodium.....just read more, find some fat, and you will lose sone BF!


DP

 

[oceangurl01]

thank you.. what you mean (dont get 2-4 grams with protein?)
i usually mix some nuts with my protein shake...
so i can only have one table spoon of natural pb a day
and let say almonds... how many almonds can i eat in one serving as a fat source?? and how many grams would that be??
the other 3 meals i need to find other fat source ...
the heavy whiped cream i dont know where to find it..
one of my meals im gonna try to eat 1 egg yolk
so i got 2 meals left for fat source..
DP, can my fat source in each meal be under 10 grams??

 

[Jodi]

Why did I bother helping you with a meal plan the other day and last night in Live Chat. The suggestions I gave (and others last night in Chat) and DP and w8 have given, should have given you enough choices. I'm sorry OG but we can't come and cook your meals for you!

 

[w8lifter]

Ok..OG....I don't know about DP...but I am DONE here. I will not help anymore until and unless you start listening. You are wasting everyone's time!

Everyone has told you that a low fat diet is NOT the way to lose fat, DP has discussed body composition, if you only want to lose weight and are not worried about losing muscle mass then you are at the wrong board. No one is going to give you a diet that goes against retaining lean body mass. You are far too concerned w/ losing weight and losing it fast. YOU WILL NEVER GET TO 14% IF YOU CONTINUE EATING THE WAY YOU ARE.

Do you understand that?

If you want more help you need to tell me, as DP asked above, why we eat fat, and why it's bad to lose weight instead of fat!

 

[Dr. Pain]

OG....you can have whatever you want.....if you would like our suggestions, which have been consistantly not to get under 10 grams...then you need to reread our posts please, the fat sources listed, the url w8 gave you for info...and use the search for EFA's

You see, we have told/suggested/given direction...etc..........you need to...... going forward,...... be in charge of your health and your nutrition....which means learning what options/choices you have w/food and fat supplements... Just like you study in school, we need you to do a little more homewrk here..so that when we give you information, you can more adequately use it, K?

We can't do much more than we have.....if someone is out there and wishes to intervine, please do.


Good Night

DP

 

[oceangurl01]

i am following what you guys been telling me! i cut down my carbs from 150 down to 70 - 80 .. increased my fat from 20 up to 50- 60 a day.. but the fat im eating most of it from nuts and i asked Dp if thats ok and he said he doesnt recommend it. but i really dont like egg yolk, and i dont know where to get the whipping cream ...

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by Dr. Pain


It also says:

heavy whipping cream (35% ....NOT whipped cream the dessert topping)
olive oil
safflower oil
flax seed oil
walnut oil
almonds
walnuts
natural sugar-free peanut butter

....As some of the fat sources...also yolks, meats, dressing and safflower mayo all have fat! Please don't get in the trap/addiction of eating nuts and nut butters. They're OK if you can stop...and use them for NO MORE TAHN 1-2 meals a day!

Please find and read info on EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids) here on the site at IM....that will help you a lot

DP

There is a lot more than heavy cream which you buy in a supermaket (5 grams of fat per T and .5 to .7 C, make sure it has no sugar added)

OG....Look at all of the fat sources, use variety......butter, oil based dressings (Newman's), safflower mayo, all of the above....esp flax oil (bought in a health food store)


DP

 

[oceangurl01]

ok 2 meals i can use nuts as fat source
2 meals i can use heavy cream as fat source
1 meal i can use yolk
is that ok now???
if i make a protein pudding
25 grams of protein..... 11 carbs, 11 fat
would that be considerd as one meal??? (even though it sounds as a dessert??
one last question for tonight... you said my carb intake can be 70 - 80 grams a day.. when can i carb up? and how much can i carb up?? and when do i carb down?? less than 60 ???

 

[Dr. Pain]

You don't need to carb on 70-80...we may give you a cheat meal after a while. Pudding is a meal, but.....

Why are you getting 25 P when we asked you to get 30?

1540 calories

180 P
70 C
60 F

3 meals 30 P 20 C 10 F
2 meals 30 P 15 C 10 F
1 meal. 30 P 00 C 10 F

We will change your program when you have been consistant for a few weeks....3-5 weeks.....no need for you to worry about that now...we are resetting your compromised metabolism.


DP

 

[Dr. Pain]

Reread, see the timetable for changes.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=14233

 

[oceangurl01]

i added my protein powder, pb to make the pudding
it came up to 25
i weight 128 now 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight
thank you DP for all your help tonight and the other days! i know im sure that i will bug you soon ( tomorrow with more questions)

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
i added my protein powder, pb to make the pudding
it came up to 25
i weight 128 now 1 gram of protein per lb of body weight
thank you DP for all your help tonight and the other days! i know im sure that i will bug you soon ( tomorrow with more questions)

So add another 1/4 scoop to make it 30. Remember to that all nuts and nut butters have carbs so those carbs need to be figured in your per meal allowance.

 

[oceangurl01]

oh ya im counting the nuts as carbs... thank you though ...
what grocery stores do you buy your whipping cream???

 

[Jodi]

Any and every grocery store carries it. Its in the dairy aisle with the milk and coffee creamers.

 

[butterfly]

OC... these guys really are spending a lot of time trying to help you... if you are going to be successful it's going to be up to you! Do what DP said and spend some time studying all the info you've been given.

YOU are the one that has to choose to study, get smart and apply it to your own eating habits... besides I don't think you'd really want DP cooking your meals for you anyway

 

[Jodi]

No way, it would all taste like flax. LOL!

 

[Dr. Pain]

I'm a gr8 cook, lol

DP

 

[oceangurl01]

you guys know how much carb does 1 teaspoon of nescafe have? (out of the container)

 

[Dero]

 

[oceangurl01]

anyone else that knows?? I usually mix 1/2 teaspoon of nescafe with my protein shake and ice to make it as a cold coffee drink (kinda) is that cool??? i do that 2 times a day

 

[Jodi]

Look on the package

 

[CLPgold]

I abstain from all forms of stimulants and caffeine. My system cannot tolerate them.

I'm definitely not gonna argue about the protein bars cuz DP and w8 know my fixation with them. But their advise is sound and true, so if you're looking for results. Listen up. Just put to practice what they've laid out for you for a few weeks and see how your body responds. No ifs and or buts. Follow it and see for yourself. After you see results, maybe they'll let you treat yourself

 

[Freeman]

I would just use coffee grounds if you need it.

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
anyone else that knows?? I usually mix 1/2 teaspoon of nescafe with my protein shake and ice to make it as a cold coffee drink (kinda) is that cool??? i do that 2 times a day

I use 1 tsp. Instant Decaf. It adds the flavor but without the caffeine.

 

[Freeman]

Originally posted by Jodi
I use 1 tsp. Instant Decaf. It adds the flavor but without the caffeine.

true...I WOULD do that, but I've been on a strawberry kick lately..so that doesn't mix well with coffee flavor..

and the only coffee stuff I have now is the left over grounds my mom left last time she was here....it kinda sucks when it gets all gritty doesn't it?

 

[Jodi]

 

[Freeman]

indeed!

 

[oceangurl01]

the nescafe that i use doesnt have anything (nutrition label on)

 

[oceangurl01]

i did so bad yesturda! after my lunch (healthy lunch) i went to the freezer and had chocolate ice cream!! i know thats bad, but my body was craving for it and then i had one small cup cake ......
did that ruin my diet that ive been working on?

 

[Freeman]

well, yeah basically. You can have cheat days, but it's not a good idea to START off your diet by cheating, you'll never get anywhere!