ALEC was formed in '73 and is instrumental in all of these changes along with all of the new tough laws such as 3 strikes for non-violent offenders, etc.
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ALEC was formed in '73 and is instrumental in all of these changes along with all of the new tough laws such as 3 strikes for non-violent offenders, etc.
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I liked that one
They generally don't lock up 14 year olds.
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I like that clip with the 67 year old guy... That's what that punk gets for running off at the mouth!
Wow, that's the kind of statement that separates the U.S. from the rest of the world. I live in a city of 2 million and I can tell you the black population is the least criminal. 54% of the population is Asian, less than 35% of the population is white. The vast majority of crime is committed by poor white people. Organized crime is in the Asian population, but it doesn’t make up the majority of crime.
I've also lived in Montreal (4 million population) which has a Huge Black population. Montreal has the largest Haitian population outside of Haiti; it has a very large Somali population and a black population that derived from the U.S. and Acadia in the 1,700's and 1,800. The crime rate among different races in Montreal is well distributed and the Black population does not stand out. Main reason; significantly less racism. As a matter of fact, a French black man is more likely to get a high paying job than an English white person in some parts of Quebec. All societies have plenty of prejudism, but for some reason, racism just isn't tolerated in most parts of Canada (with one exception, we are not nice to our native population, a lot like the U.S is not nice to its Black population. Even the Blacks tell Indian jokes in Canada...
Crime is a social class issue, not a race issue. Just because the lower end of the social class in the U.S happens to be Black and Hispanic, doesn't make Blacks and Hispanics inherently evil, it's simply a reflection of a racist society that has not yet gotten over its past. In some U.S states, you are still more likely to get hired for a position if you are White. Although Canada's Black population is smaller than the U.S. our visible minority population is larger. Most of my Executive friends are visible minority, there is no old boys club in Canada and I suspect it's similar in most of Europe.
The visible minority outweighed whites prior to the Vancouver riots this year; they all went home after the game, the whites stuck around to destroy the city.
For the record, I'm white, but I rarely see myself as white, because white is not an official demographic in Canada; I'm French/Irish.
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And where, precisely, did you get said crime "facts"? A quick check shows that Montreal authorities don't publish statistics of crimes committed by race.
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I Googled "Chicago Avenue Red Line stop" and didn't see any notice of an apprehension.
Did see this, however. Does the red text refer to the attacker in the OP's video or some other incident?
Videotaped Attack on Man at Red Line Station Might Have Been a Game
By Craig Wall, FOX Chicago News
November 7, 2011
Chicago - While the videotaped beating of a homeless man at a CTA station seemed to be a random act of violence, we're learning it may be something even more sinister: a bizarre and cruel game young people play.
This may have been a game of what's called "Point 'Em Out, Knock 'Em Out" based on the video, although no one is saying officially because the case just got assigned to a Chicago Police detective this afternoon.
But young people in Chicago have apparently been engaging in this form of violence for years. Cell phones and the internet are just making it more enticing for them to share something they think is fun, but police say is a felony.
The teen in the video smiles at the camera as he approaches an unsuspecting homeless man at the Red Line Station at Chicago Avenue. He then proceeds to smash him in the side of the head and literally knock the 55-year-old victim out cold.
The incident happened on April 2, but wasn't posted on the web until this past weekend. Chicago Police are now trying to track down the victim.
"It's a game that people play, they just randomly point at somebody and someone has to knock that person out, and if they don't they could get hit by one of their friends instead," explained Chicago State University student Bryce Ray.
The video was the topic of conversation in Bryce Ray's communication class at Chicago State University today. He and his friend Chris Parker both have witnessed "Point 'Em Out, Knock 'Em Out" first hand.
"I was standing outside with a group of friends, and somebody just said 'Point 'Em Out, Knock 'Em out,'" Parker said. "Everybody already knows what the game is, so he went over there and pointed to some individual and ran over and just punched the guy."
Videos of similar incidents are posted on YouTube. The people throwing the punches seem to find it funny. In the CTA beating, people with the attacker are seen and heard laughing, with no apparent concern for the victim who lies motionless on the platform.
"That's the disturbing part," Ray said. "How could you find that funny? That's the sad part."
I went to the home of the teen who threw the punch, but no one would answer the door. The apparent attacker's parents told FOX Chicago News on Sunday that their son was going through a rough time last April when the attack occurred.
A neighbor was stunned by what the video shows.
"He was a good person, he went to school every day," said Laverne Smith. "I never would have thought he would do something like that."
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Here's our hero now. Seems to be watching a playback of the event on a friend's phone video camera.
And this smiling young man (center, photo below) asked the assailant, "Why didn't you go in his pocket?" I'm assuming he was curious why the thug didn't rob the victim. smh
Nor does the rest of Canada. Canada does not distinguish between races. This said, Canada does suffer from similar incarceration rates as does the U.S., but it is well established by academia that visible minorities are prejudiced in the criminal justice system, even in Canada. Visible minorities are arrested more than whites and typically have lesser financial resources to defend themselves. Incarceration rates do not correlate to crime rates, but they do tell you something about discrimination.
Canada Also as the only Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the world that is separate from its Constitution. Visible minorities do have greater protection in Canada. Further, we've been providing anti-racism training in our judicial system since 1992 in order to remediate past challenges with discrimination.
http://www.internetjournalofcriminology.com/Denney,%20Ellis%20&%20Barn%20-%20Race,%20Diversity%20and%20Criminal%20Justice%20in%20Canada.pdf
My observation that crime is well distributed among the races in Canada is my opinion based on "serious" reported crime in the communities I've lived in, but also public perception of friends, etc. I'm not talking about petty crime or gang related violence that is mainly contained in gang territory. The Article below provides references to research that disputes the race card, though there is research that suggests the opposite; the research that disputes the race card believes other research is flawed due to not taking into account the social development of some societies, as well as war and genocide. In one of the studies, a West African nation had a lesser violent crime rates than European and Asian countries studied.
http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/PE Crime.pdf
BTW, I'm only using Canada as an example, I'm sure there are some European countries who top us in terms of racial fairness.
A Northern taboo: Research on race, crime, and criminal justice in Canada.
by Scot Wortley
American research has consistently found that race -- along with gender and age -- is one of the strongest predictors of officially reported criminal activity (Tonry 1995). Although statistics on race and crime are not normally released in Canada, the information that is available suggests that certain racial minorities are also over-represented in the Canadian correctional system. Table 1 combines data from the 1996 Census (Statistics Canada: Canada's national statistical agency / Statistique Canada : Organisme statistique national du Canada) with data released by federal corrections (Solicitor General of Canada 1997). The data reveal that while aboriginal Canadians represent approximately 4% of the population, they account for 14% of federal prison inmates. Similarly, while black people account for only 2% of the population, they represent over 6% of those in federal correctional institutions. Overall, aboriginals suffer from the highest incarceration rate (184.85 per 100,000), followed closely by African- Canadians (146.37).
What accounts for the apparent relationship between race and crime? Two contradictory explanations are often proposed. The first explanation is that minority groups suffer from discrimination within the criminal justice system. Compared to white people, minorities are more likely to be arrested, convicted, and punished for their behaviour. The second explanation maintains that racial disparities in prison populations are caused by higher rates of offending among minority groups. This type of explanation must be further divided into two extremely different theoretical camps. Sociological explanations maintain that higher offending rates among minorities are the result of the frustration caused by racial oppression and social inequality. By contrast, racist explanations maintain that minorities offend at higher levels than whites because of genetic differences (Hernstein and Murray 1994; Rushton 1988). In must be stressed that such biologically-based theories have been effectively challenged by the research evidence (Roberts and Gabor 1990; Kamin 1995)(1).
In America, these issues have been examined by criminologists for decades. By comparison, Canadian research on race, crime and criminal justice is rather under-developed. Canadian research is scarce largely because information on race and crime is not usually collected. Indeed, the question of whether or not we should collect race-crime statistics has generated a great deal of debate (Roberts 1994; Johnston 1994). The contentious nature of this issue was illustrated by the response to Statistics Canada's 1990 decision to collect temporarily police data on the race of crime suspects. After experiencing criticism from various minority organizations and academics, the exercise was quickly abandoned. Thus, Canadian researchers who are interested in issues of race, crime, and criminal justice are still without proper data. The purpose of this paper is to review briefly the arguments for and against the collection of race-crime statistics and outline a number of policy options that may contribute to the resolution of this controversy(2).
The argument against the collection of race-crime statistics
Critics maintain that race-crime statistics present many dangers and that these dangers outweigh the potential usefulness of this type of information (Roberts 1994; Doob 1991). The argument against race-crime statistics can be divided into three major points: 1) the poor quality of crime statistics; 2) the difficulty of measuring race; and 3) the possibility that race-crime statistics will be used to support racist theories of crime and subsequently justify discrimination against racial minorities.
The accuracy of crime statistics -- particularly official crime statistics -- is often questioned (Nettler 1978; DeKeseredy and Schwartz 1996). One criticism is that official data only capture crimes that have ...
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Atlanta, Georgia is 61% black. The majority of the police and judges are black. The mayor is black. They have over twice the crime of Los Angeles (a city known for its crime) and the majority of the prison convicts are black.
Yes, prejudices do exist and effect arrest rates, but never mind that blacks make up 12% of the county's population, yet make up 27% of the crime. That huge disparity is most assuredly racism.
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How fucking stupid are these nogs? They post an incriminating video, and they wonder why they have such a bad rap and the police beat them
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I bet he's real nice on public transit now...
That's what the stupid fuckin nog gets for fucking with white folk, we don't start fight we just finish them off.
I'm just telling you why you didn't get arrested for jaywalking.
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this makes me sick, If I was there I would have knocked THAT motherfucker out and pissed on his face.
someone keep deleting mah comments oh wait i'm just high
I have traveled all over the world extensively since the mid 80's and the US is the only country where I feel like a "black man" everywhere else in the world I simply feel like another man...
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It's a good thing that never happens anywhere else.
Also, other first-world counties have a fraction of the number of people from third-world countries that the US does.
Over here in south america, black people are discriminated way less than the united states. what chu talkin bout willis?
lol @ Dom blaming his countries negativity at other races/countries without ever stepping foot outside his bubble.
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South America is the third-world. Third-world people belong there, not in the first-world.
You misunderstand, I'm saying that as more third-world people flood into other first-world countries, they'll people there will learn why third-world people aren't liked so much here.
This was your original post I was responding to:
What does this have to do with the discrimination/racism problem the usa suffers against blacks? This does not happen anywhere else in the west hemisphere ( I have experiences life in puerto rico, dominican republic, cuba,chile, peru, colombia, argentina, mexico) as much as it does in the United states. my comment was made assuming you were using the third world excuse as a shield for your countries own dirt.
I agree with this, in a perfect world this would be Ideal.
I just don't see how anything you've said fits as response to the comment LAM made. Other countries/races have nothing to do with the big discrimination issue the USA has against blacks. Been black in the United States and been black somewhere else in the world is a lot different.
What does this have to do with the discrimination/racism problem the usa suffers against blacks? This does not happen anywhere else in the west hemisphere ( I have experiences life in puerto rico, dominican republic, cuba,chile, peru, colombia, argentina, mexico) as much as it does in the United states. my comment was made assuming you were using the third world excuse as a shield for your countries own dirt.
I agree with this, in a perfect world this would be Ideal.
I just don't see how anything you've said fits as response to the comment LAM made. Other countries/races have nothing to do with the big discrimination issue the USA has against blacks. Been black in the United States and been black somewhere else in the world is a lot different.
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Do you think Americans would have such a dim view of blacks and Mexicans if there were only a few? I wouldn't give a rats ass if there only a few Mexicans in my country. But there are hordes of them here turning everything they touch into the third-world.
As the number of third-world people rise in other first-world countries, you're going to see more racism there. Just look at France and their Muslim problem.
That's my point.
