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Palin Problem, Sheâ??????s out of her league.

Remember what Sinclair Lewis wrote in the 30's. "When facism comes to this country, it will be draped in a flag - carrying a cross".:wits:

How about this one:

"[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica][FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program until one day America will be a Socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened.[/FONT] "

He was the presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America in 1920's-40's.
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My wife's relatives live in England and Ireland anda work partner 's parent's live in Germany it is true a fair number of them can't understand how Obama's gotten as far as he has. Maybe in years ahead, but , not now without experience . As far as laughing it really extends back to Bill Clinton , there was much greater respect for George Sr. Even the mess today extends back more than a decade .
 
Remember who was Hitlers money launderer ehh banker? Prescott Bush. Yes, the father of Bush 41 and the grandfather of Bush 43.How these guys came to rule this country i'll never know! Oh yeah, stolen elections! Don't think dunderhead was the 1st to do that! :rolleyes:
 
I dont want a far-from-perfect president. And its not good that she's the closest thing that We Americans can relate to, since i know A LOT of Americans who are pretty Fking stupid. If she can Relate to those dumbasses, that isnt helping her case. ;)

Plus shes from Alaska.... C'mon....
...really..:mooh:

Far from perfect and being honest is ideal....in reality none of these people are even close to perfect. The only difference is they hide their flaws because most of them are criminal or things that would make them look aweful in the public eye. I can accept people that make mistakes, or have things in their past not ideal, but its one thing to be honest about when the other shady characters hide their BS until it somes out, and then they change their views like it was a flip of a switch.

Her being able to relate to hardship and reality of a typical American has nothing to do with her ability to make the right choices in office. If anything her choices will benefit the people. Lets be realistic the majority of these political people are crooked and only worried about themselves. They are not interested in the majority of Americans because they are not involved...they could care less....they are rich and only worried about staying rich. I want someone that knows my struggle....not interested in helping huge company executives that fuck things up and want to be bailed out.....even these guys fucking up the mortgage industry are leaving with large sums of money...for what? They screwed up....if I fuck up at work they don't hand me millioins to leave.
 
Than Obama? Absolutely.

That's like saying you would want your professional hockey team to be coached by coach A over coach B because coach A has championship experience. Despite the fact that coach A's experience is coaching Peewee hockey and coach B is a college coach. Neither may be qualified, but I am still going with coach B. It is irrelevant anyway, it is Obama v. McCain, not Palin.
 
Remember who was Hitlers money launderer ehh banker? Prescott Bush. Yes, the father of Bush 41 and the grandfather of Bush 43.How these guys came to rule this country i'll never know! Oh yeah, stolen elections! Don't think dunderhead was the 1st to do that! :rolleyes:

Prescott was not the launderer of Hitler's personal wealth...he financed a German manufacturer named Thyssen, who today is known as Thyssen Krup...and he didn't come into money through that project...He married into the money.
 
Sorry, he managed his money in this country. He was convicted of conspiring with the enemy and was convicted through the senate. Why he wasn't hanged is a big concern of mine! and should be a lesson taught in every school But, that ironically it is forgotten!!!:banned:
 
Nobody is really asking Palin the important questions. Well, for instance ... when she masturbates ... who does she think of? When the light is yellow ... does she speed up or slow down? Has she ever shoplifted? Has she allowed her daughter to have sex with her boyfriend while she was in the family home? Spit or swallow? This kinda shit really tells a lot about a person.
 
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Nobody is really asking Palin the important questions. Well, for instance ... when she masturbates ... who does she think of? When the light is yellow ... does she speed up or slow down? Has she ever shoplifted? Has she allowed her daughter to have sex with her boyfriend while she was in the family home? Spit or swallow? This kinda shit really tells a lot about a person.

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
 
Here is the video of Palin's Supreme Court, opinion she opposes. Note her answer.

YouTube Video
 
Here is Palin's comments on Russia. Note Palin's comments, Palin's campaign spokeswoman's comments, and then a Major's comments who head the military command center there.

This is getting embarrassing, folks.

After Palin's interview, officials say there's no Russia threat

Gov. Sarah Palin cites vigilance against Russian warplanes coming into U.S. airspace over Alaska as one of her foreign-policy

credentials...
By MARTHA MENDOZA
The Associated Pressz

Gov. Sarah Palin cites vigilance against Russian warplanes coming into U.S. airspace over Alaska as one of her foreign-policy credentials. But the U.S. military command in charge says that hasn't happened in her 21 months in office.

....The spokeswoman for the McCain-Palin campaign, Maria Comella, said in an e-mail trying to clarify Palin's comments that when "Russian incursions near Alaskan airspace and inside the air-defense identification zone have occurred ... U.S. Air Force fighters have been scrambled repeatedly."

However, no Russian military planes have been flying into that zone, said Maj. Allen Herritage, a spokesman for the Alaska region of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, at Elmendorf Air Force Base near Anchorage.
"To be very clear, there has not been any incursion in U.S. airspace in recent years," Herritage said.

Link: Nation & World | After Palin's interview, officials say there's no Russia threat | Seattle Times Newspaper
 
Awesome posts.
 
Here is Palin on Hamas.

In this video Palin is basically endorsing and supporting, Hamas. Whether you like Hamas or not, the US government didn't recognize the elections of Hamas.

Then, Palin almost immediately starts talking about Ahmadinejad in Iran (which he won in an election, not open to everyone.)

Then she goes into Israel.

Ignore the commentator. Ignore the commentator and,

focus on the question, and focus on Palin's answer.

YouTube Video
 
Ouch, and people complained about Hillary?

At least she something to look at.

Wow.
 
So now the party boys will try to make her out to be qualified in spite of what we have seen, or haven't seen, of her ability to lead this nation. Everyone tries to hold up her experience as Governor, her defense of our nation from invasion by the dreaded communists, and her fiscal policies that provided prosperity for Alaska as the foundations of her viability as a world leader.

The population of Alaska is around 700,000. A population smaller than that of Austin Texas. Not exactly a challenge. Factor in that Alaska has a guaranteed income from the petroleum industry and her experience running that economy becomes even less of a validation. Alaska is a state with 80% of its revenues derived from petroleum extraction. This means that even if she was financially retarded her state's economy would still prosper with the current oil market.

Palin was a city council member from 1992 to 1996 and then became the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska from 1996 to 2002 ... pop about 6,000 in the year 2000. She then failed in her run for lieutenant governor, but did chair the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004 after which Palin got elected to govern the Sate of Alaska in 2006.

Her experience managing the affairs of a city with a pop of roughly 6000 people does not qualify her to run America. Handling the economy of a state ranked 47th in population with a guaranteed income nets her very little financial experience and NO experience in foreign affairs.

The military did not count on her to run the defense of our country as been alluded too by the party boys in their attempt to bolster her qualifications to be on the ticket. She is 100% lacking in any qualifications to make that claim, though some would like to believe otherwise.

This woman is not qualified to run our country, but I like her. She's not going to be accused of being a mental giant, she's a control freak and a religious zealot, but she has done well in improving the places she has been put in charge of. She does bring a history of getting things done to the table, but only on a very limited scale in a very well controlled environment. She is totally lacking in the experience that congressional and senate level offices provide. Foreign affairs, world economics, national social management, and hard grunt politicking are not something she has been involved with on the scale she would be exposed to if she made it to the White house ... and the top job is not a place for OJT.

She's young. Give her another ten years at the national level and if ... IF ... she rises above her peers to the upper levels of politics on her own merits, not because someone running for Presidential office is looking for window dressing, and if ... IF ... she's not morally corrupted as most all of the rest are at that top level she might be ready. Now? Nope.
 
I think the problem with our country today is the complete transformation of the majority of the republican party. We're dealing with two extreme's, the mainstream liberals and the christian republicans...The breed of republican conservatives who believe in small government, small taxes is dying if not dead. I'm ashamed of some people who lead the republican party...its these crazies such as GW who make it a lot easier for the old school republicans to look towards the moderate to liberal side of politics...I wish reagan could be raised from the dead...he was a true rare breed of the best.
 
Prescott was not the launderer of Hitler's personal wealth...he financed a German manufacturer named Thyssen, who today is known as Thyssen Krup...and he didn't come into money through that project...He married into the money.

ThyssenKrupp built Hitlers war machines. They also forced Polish Jews into slave labor building Hitlers weaponry. Fritz Thyssen, the company president, was a right wing nutjob and Hitler supporter.

This is the company Prescott financed.


By the way, I don't really give a shit. These people have long been dead, and I don't hold bad opinions of people because of the actions of their family. I just wanted to clarify your information.
 
Forget about the bridge to nowhere, :mooh:These are the sentences to nowhere!:wacko:
 
So now the party boys will try to make her out to be qualified in spite of what we have seen, or haven't seen, of her ability to lead this nation. Everyone tries to hold up her experience as Governor, her defense of our nation from invasion by the dreaded communists, and her fiscal policies that provided prosperity for Alaska as the foundations of her viability as a world leader.

The population of Alaska is around 700,000. A population smaller than that of Austin Texas. Not exactly a challenge. Factor in that Alaska has a guaranteed income from the petroleum industry and her experience running that economy becomes even less of a validation. Alaska is a state with 80% of its revenues derived from petroleum extraction. This means that even if she was financially retarded her state's economy would still prosper with the current oil market.

Palin was a city council member from 1992 to 1996 and then became the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska from 1996 to 2002 ... pop about 6,000 in the year 2000. She then failed in her run for lieutenant governor, but did chair the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004 after which Palin got elected to govern the Sate of Alaska in 2006.

Her experience managing the affairs of a city with a pop of roughly 6000 people does not qualify her to run America. Handling the economy of a state ranked 47th in population with a guaranteed income nets her very little financial experience and NO experience in foreign affairs.

The military did not count on her to run the defense of our country as been alluded too by the party boys in their attempt to bolster her qualifications to be on the ticket. She is 100% lacking in any qualifications to make that claim, though some would like to believe otherwise.

This woman is not qualified to run our country, but I like her. She's not going to be accused of being a mental giant, she's a control freak and a religious zealot, but she has done well in improving the places she has been put in charge of. She does bring a history of getting things done to the table, but only on a very limited scale in a very well controlled environment. She is totally lacking in the experience that congressional and senate level offices provide. Foreign affairs, world economics, national social management, and hard grunt politicking are not something she has been involved with on the scale she would be exposed to if she made it to the White house ... and the top job is not a place for OJT.

She's young. Give her another ten years at the national level and if ... IF ... she rises above her peers to the upper levels of politics on her own merits, not because someone running for Presidential office is looking for window dressing, and if ... IF ... she's not morally corrupted as most all of the rest are at that top level she might be ready. Now? Nope.

But...

She has executive experience. In fact, she should be running for president, because she has more executive experience than McCain.

I think the problem with our country today is the complete transformation of the majority of the republican party. We're dealing with two extreme's, the mainstream liberals and the christian republicans...The breed of republican conservatives who believe in small government, small taxes is dying if not dead. I'm ashamed of some people who lead the republican party...its these crazies such as GW who make it a lot easier for the old school republicans to look towards the moderate to liberal side of politics...I wish reagan could be raised from the dead...he was a true rare breed of the best.

That's why I am where I am at right now.
 
Obama's experience is............????????

Sometimes you can have the experience but not the know how to lead people.

I worked with people in the radio industry who had 15 plus years of experience with radio's but couldn't deal with the responsibilities of being a manager.
They didn't know how to deal with co-workers (domestic), customers (Foreign) nor the company finances.

Does this make sense?
 
Skepticism of Palin growing, poll finds

Skepticism of Palin growing, poll finds - Washington Post - MSNBC.com
Fewer than half of voters think she understands 'complex issues'
By Jon Cohen and Jennifer Agiesta
The Washington Post
updated 7:54 a.m. ET, Thurs., Oct. 2, 2008
With the vice presidential candidates set to square off today in their only scheduled debate, public assessments of Sarah Palin's readiness have plummeted, and she may now be a drag on the Republican ticket among key voter groups, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Tonight's heavily anticipated debate comes just five weeks after the popular Alaska governor entered the national spotlight as Sen. John McCain's surprise pick to be his running mate. Though she initially transformed the race with her energizing presence and a fiery convention speech, Palin is now a much less positive force: Six in 10 voters see her as lacking the experience to be an effective president, and a third are now less likely to vote for McCain because of her.

A month ago, voters rated Palin as highly as they did McCain or his Democratic rival, Sen. Barack Obama, but after weeks of intensive coverage and several perceived missteps, the shine has diminished.

Nearly a third of adults in a new poll from the Pew Research Center said they paid a lot of attention to Palin's interviews with CBS News's Katie Couric, a series that prompted grumbling among some conservative commentators about Palin's competency to be the GOP's vice presidential standard-bearer. The Pew poll showed views of Palin slipping over the past few days alone..............more
 
What time is the debate?
 
Not surprising really. She's had her share of gaffes, but none more important than Obama's on foreign affairs.. e.g. his Georgia response, his willingness to sit down with Iran & others, etc.

This is a product of the media's bias. Amazing to me that a junior senator with 18 months in the senate (the rest was campaigning) is going to win because the opposition's VP is "inexperienced". Simply amazing.

Obama probably would have won anyway, but this certainly helped.
 
Not surprising really. She's had her share of gaffes, but none more important than Obama's on foreign affairs.. e.g. his Georgia response, his willingness to sit down with Iran & others, etc.

This is a product of the media's bias. Amazing to me that a junior senator with 18 months in the senate (the rest was campaigning) is going to win because the opposition's VP is "inexperienced". Simply amazing.

Obama probably would have won anyway, but this certainly helped.
I a shocked, it does look like he will actually pull this out.
 
Sometimes you can have the experience but not the know how to lead people.

I worked with people in the radio industry who had 15 plus years of experience with radio's but couldn't deal with the responsibilities of being a manager.
They didn't know how to deal with co-workers (domestic), customers (Foreign) nor the company finances.

Does this make sense?

Agreed, but , if Obama doesn't have experience and hasn't shown ANY leadership due to the fact that he hasn't done anything in the several weeks he was in office . Outside of his campaigning what has he done. He's a decade too early .He'll rely totally on his advisers and what questions will his experience have him asking ?
 
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