Patriot Act II

[GFR]

Statistically, it was bound to happen.

True story, I agree 26%

 

[bio-chem]

Think about it: which is better? To draft a document that sets forth the rights of the people (and therefore, their limits) or to limit the governments role in the affairs of the people? In the second example, the people's rights are limitless and the government's rights are forever limited.

The problems begin when people start "interpreting" the constitution or amending it. Or, as of late, simply ignoring it.

because amending the constitution is terrible. like giving women and blacks the right to vote. horrible. amending the constitution is an invaluable tool the founders left us to ensure the constitution stays a 'living' doucument in effect giving each following generation the rights, previlieges, advantages, and blessings the founders had when they choose how they wanted to be governed.

 

[GFR]

because amending the constitution is terrible. like giving women and blacks the right to vote. horrible. .

 

[bio-chem]

 

[GFR]

I know, "your quote reminds me of that movie "With Honors".


Simon Wilder: You asked the question, sir, now let me answer it. The beauty of the Constitution is that it can always be changed. The beauty of the Constitution is that it makes no set law other than faith in the wisdom of ordinary people to govern themselves.

Proffesor Pitkannan: Faith in the wisdom of the people is exactly what makes the Constitution incomplete and crude.

Simon Wilder: Crude? No, sir. Our "founding parents" were pompous, white, middle-aged farmers, but they were also great men. Because they knew one thing that all great men should know: that they didn't know everything. Sure, they'd make mistakes, but they made sure to leave a way to correct them. The president is not an "elected king," no matter how many bombs he can drop. Because the "crude" Constitution doesn't trust him. He's just a bum, okay Mr. Pitkannan? He's just a bum.

 

[BigDyl]

because amending the constitution is terrible. like giving women and blacks the right to vote. horrible.

JODI!!!

 

[DOMS]

because amending the constitution is terrible. like giving women and blacks the right to vote. horrible. amending the constitution is an invaluable tool the founders left us to ensure the constitution stays a 'living' doucument in effect giving each following generation the rights, previlieges, advantages, and blessings the founders had when they choose how they wanted to be governed.

Get off your high horse. I didn't say that it shouldn't be ammended.

 

[BigDyl]

Get off your high horse. I didn't say that it shouldn't be ammended.

 

[bio-chem]

I know, "your quote reminds me of that movie "With Honors".


Simon Wilder: You asked the question, sir, now let me answer it. The beauty of the Constitution is that it can always be changed. The beauty of the Constitution is that it makes no set law other than faith in the wisdom of ordinary people to govern themselves.

Proffesor Pitkannan: Faith in the wisdom of the people is exactly what makes the Constitution incomplete and crude.

Simon Wilder: Crude? No, sir. Our "founding parents" were pompous, white, middle-aged farmers, but they were also great men. Because they knew one thing that all great men should know: that they didn't know everything. Sure, they'd make mistakes, but they made sure to leave a way to correct them. The president is not an "elected king," no matter how many bombs he can drop. Because the "crude" Constitution doesn't trust him. He's just a bum, okay Mr. Pitkannan? He's just a bum.

we may actually agree on something

 

[bio-chem]

The problems begin when people start "interpreting" the constitution or amending it. Or, as of late, simply ignoring it.


Get off your high horse. I didn't say that it shouldn't be ammended.

you might think about making your posts a little more clear then. it seems you were saying the problem begins when people start interpreting or amending the constitution.

 

[goandykid]

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