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aminoman74
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Shit man iv been on them for like 12 weeks.I know im fully saturated but im doing a test to see what its like to run these for a long time.Im sure my recepters are down regulated.
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Just be careful because you can permanently alter your insulin sensitivity.
aminoman74
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Im also taking slin with it.Ill be off of it soon.I seem to be getting good gains still from this peptide research.
Its a mistake to run especially IGF for longer than 4 weeks and that if you doing high dosing 4 is almost too long. Pegmgf you can run 6 weeks but not longer and cycle again! Fucking with IGF for experimenting is nonsense ! Just food for thought. Been on peptides for couple years cycling is very health important!!
No you not disrespectful at all . Pegmgf is not known to build any great amount of muscle alone neither with others. We still don't know how much time really to run the cycle cause everything is experimental . I was running peg with Igf and by its self for 6 weeks no longer. Peg does not make your organs grow That is BS you read from people that have no idea what in the hell pegmgf is. i always used it in the areas i was working out. you can start with 200mcg to begin and see how you feel . No problem for asking!!
Thx for the response.
Okay...it looks like peg would serve my purposes. However, here comes a q that might be common to most, but I am just going to try one pep first and peg is prob going to be it... running for 6 weeks, then hoping either trt cyp helps along with of course working out duh lol. Here's the q, I would be doing this sub q, however, far as water and how to get it prepped before administration is kinda my question. For example if I do 200 mcg non workout days...thats fine and dandy, but how is the prep? Do you mix with water, ect. Now this is going to look like a rookie question, well because it is. I tried scrolling through searches and I just don't see that info.
I chose peg, well b/c I am not aiming for fat loss. Recovery, size and some strength. Now since it puts new cells in, they need time to grow..maybe again test cyp helps that. Now if i am wrong about this, then I'm staring at the wrong peptide to research. Nonetheless, it seems to be safe. If i wanted fat loss var would be pretty simple choice, or just doing another pep. I might go cjc no dac( no need for gh bleed in research ) later. I like my pit. gland as it serves for many hormones both anterior and posteriorly. The cjc would be just for better sleep, hence recovery. Okay, I sound ADD here, on point. Peg by itself first. What is the protocal before administration bf experimenting? Anyone feel free to chime in on anything. Also, thanks to those that are responding because this serves as a guide for many I am sure and the assurance one is researching it right. Okay get peg, slin pin.....I am talking about water? Aspiration? ect... srry guys and gal... I never did this stuff. It's easy to swallow a pill, but this is different. Trt is already prepped, so idk esp with peps. Again, don't mean to sound rookish( but hey it's the nfl draft, it's rookie time j/k ). Thanks.
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Ok.. reconstituting your Peg MGF. Our Peg comes in 2mg vials. I like to use 1 ml of BAC to recon, which will give you 100mcg's per 5iu's on a slin pin. Makes it pretty simple.. especially if your dosing 200mcg's. Personally, I would bump it up to 300-400mcg's per day. You're correct in how MGF works. It's a proliferator, which creates new cells. But, you also need to have a differentiator (IGF) that essentially assigns the new cells as muscle cells, before they can begin to mature and grow.
So peg mgf by itslef can't grow muscle cells over time via training? Also, IGF, does it make u wanna grab food real quick like an insulin patient.
Again, w recon....do you recon the pin, or just mix the Bac water within the 2mg vial? Or say could u go .5 ml of bac water to get more Peg mgf if it's recon in the vial. See I told ya I was a rookie..lol. I have read where ppl on peg mgf get some gains, but loose them after getting off, which i'm assuming you would cycle...6 weeks. They might be regarding it as fullness...idk. It just seems the safest and promising per goals.Llike I said do trt test cyp. Thanks....
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Either pep by itself will still work, as both MGF and IGF are naturally occuring. But, exogenous administration of both togehter will amplify/expedite results.
Recon - With 2mg vials, I like to use 1ml of BAC water. Add it to the vial. Let it run down the side of the vial... avoid directly adding the water to the peptide itself. Gently swirl until completely disolved. Gains with this pep will not be lost once you discontinue.. if anything, you will continue to grow due to the proliferation. Once the cells are created, there is no way to loose them.. they are yours.
Thanks, think i got it. Q, have you ever seen someone research MGF( non peg ) sub q w/ results. I ask b/c some ppl knock peg that tried it, and MGF seems to hit with good reviews. Thanks.
No you not disrespectful at all . Pegmgf is not known to build any great amount of muscle alone neither with others. We still don't know how much time really to run the cycle cause everything is experimental . I was running peg with Igf and by its self for 6 weeks no longer. Peg does not make your organs grow That is BS you read from people that have no idea what in the hell pegmgf is. i always used it in the areas i was working out. you can start with 200mcg to begin and see how you feel . No problem for asking!!
hey hooper, not to drag this out...when u said peg..were u researching IM with it? I was talking sub q....Also a thought, MGF sub q? Or would MGF sub q, be a waste? Either way recon w/ Bac.... but this is where i am stuck on. Since I am on trt( test cyp ) I will always be on..well sorta be on gear. I just came across this again...so that's where I am at, I dn't plan on researching w/ IGF right now. So idk what is best suited...peg sub q? or MGF sub q? Also, glad ppl see muscle fullness on peg and mgf...but some are iffy on both. Thanks for the responses.
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I really like MGF. I actually research with it, Post workout. Split the dose bilaterally and inject IM in whatever muscle groups worked that day. Then I use Peg MGF on my off days administered subq.
No problem is nice to share info out ... i do not use just MGF i aways use PEG MGF that is where all my testing been. MGF is not as stable as PEG with it ... so you be wasting money . I always use it bilaterally for the muscles they got the work . There is some fullness but is not the kind you looking for.
No problem is nice to share info out ... i do not use just MGF i aways use PEG MGF that is where all my testing been. MGF is not as stable as PEG with it ... so you be wasting money . I always use it bilaterally for the muscles they got the work . There is some fullness but is not the kind you looking for.
Ok it's late my time lol...well early depends on how you look at it..anyway, to see if I read this right, MGF sub q would be a waste. Peg would be the way to go in my efforts. However, for those cells to grow quicker, would the test cyp make that happen? So say....research....
Peg 200 mcg Sub q 2x for 4 weeks
Trt
Then after peg maybe cjc w/out dac( I like my pit. gland aka no GH bleed ) 4 weeks...to maybe spur growth quicker. Then take time off. See once the mgf is in you, isn't it always going to stay there...the cells just need to maturate? When ppl say fullness I think of creatine( if your a responder, most know ). I can blow up on creatine mono and gain 6 lbs in 4 weeks...I know its just creatine..I don't use it anymore..just an example. I guess it gives a swollen look. Again, thanks for the responses.
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Peg MGF subq is not a waste.. there is no research that backs PegMGF causing site proliferation.. the theory comes from the fact that the peptide doesn't need to seperate from the "peg" before being active, as opposed to AAS. Therefore, in theory, it should cause slightly more proliferation at the injections site before it becomes systemic. The majority of the peptide will still become systemic.
aminoman74
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MGF is 10 minutes long before the life of it ends so its good for site growth as its fast acting to heal and prepare the muscle tissue.peg mgf can be taking sub.q as i take peg on none workout days and mgf 10 post workout.
I am not agree to disagree with you if you want to do it subq you can ... i work in the medical field and all i am saying is coming from my own experience and what i know in the field. They have not been regular study's on peptides on humans athletes , or people who work out .. so if it makes you feel it works do it ! I don't!!!!! my knowledge says do it only on the muscles you going to break down. Pegmgf is not systemic for growth is more topical to draw the satellite cells to the site along with other functions that happen at the time of the break down/ recovery ...... Igf is more systemic . Everything becomes systemic a way for the body to processes it for waste.
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MGF works as a proliferator.. that's where the growth comes from. It doesn't draw satelite cells, it creates new cells. Peg MGF is absolutely systemic. Injecting it IM is not going to contain the proliferation to that individual muscle, but it may cause slightly more proliferation in that muscle.. but being Pegylated, it has such a long half life that it becomes systemic and will cause proliferation in any stressed muscle.
IGF Des is not systemic.. IGF lr3 is systemic.
IGF Des is not systemic.. IGF lr3 is systemic.
You all sound like you are a chemists , doctors and you know how the stuff works . Really Peptides is not a new field but is not a very tested field for any humans . All the testing is done on animals and that is all and not for the purpose to improve any athlete. So when you talk about peptides like you really know if MGF is good for this, and peg is only good for that you basing it on what you read from others . The medical community still looking into the effects and really don't understand the works on these peptides on animals not along on humans.
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You all sound like you are a chemists , doctors and you know how the stuff works . Really Peptides is not a new field but is not a very tested field for any humans . All the testing is done on animals and that is all and not for the purpose to improve any athlete. So when you talk about peptides like you really know if MGF is good for this, and peg is only good for that you basing it on what you read from others . The medical community still looking into the effects and really don't understand the works on these peptides on animals not along on humans.
haha.. It's based on the structure of the amino chain. I'm done arguing with you.. we don't agree.. and that's fine. But in the same sense, I won't allow someone to try and discredit me based on subjective information. You say your a part of the medical community.. I'm guessing a nurse?
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Are you using slin preworkout and again Post? or just Pre?
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Ya you can id slin ghrp/ccjc with the the same.
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Nobody is arguing here if you are you feel offended then. I was stating facts from my own experience personally and professionally . Peptides is a field that most of the information is based on testing mice people using them and reading about. Yes i am in the medical community and i am not a nurse . I won't be having the knowledge i have as a nurse. The information is out there to be read and used with caution .
I choose to follow certain protocols when using peptides to see if and how the effect the body, requiring to have certain test when you on them to see if they actually doing anything! No bad feelings from here
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Its a tough call honestly. Anectdotally, a combo of a ghrh (cjc, mod grf etc) and a ghrp (2, 6, hex,ipam etc) produces a higher pulse in gh secretion than a daily dose of gh. In the real world, many factors come into play. The quality of your peptides, thequality of your gh, dosing protocol (time, amount, is it the same every day? Are you eod with one and ed or e3d with the other?) Are just the tip of the iceberg. I amlost forgot, storage conditions and peptide degradation
Human testing has shown that 100mcg of each of ghrh and a ghrp would produce a higher and faster gh pulse than 7.5 iu of gh. Older tests indicated this was even stronger with the addition of a benzo, but that's not exactly the best idea lol.
Now we all know you want a high peak, and you want it fast. Gh bleed is for girls! Why do you think they call it "bleeding"? Lol to remind you who it happens to
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Nobody is arguing here if you are you feel offended then. I was stating facts from my own experience personally and professionally . Peptides is a field that most of the information is based on testing mice people using them and reading about. Yes i am in the medical community and i am not a nurse . I won't be having the knowledge i have as a nurse. The information is out there to be read and used with caution .
I choose to follow certain protocols when using peptides to see if and how the effect the body, requiring to have certain test when you on them to see if they actually doing anything! No bad feelings from here
Many peptides HAVE been researched on himan subjects, you just gotta read the right studies. (And I'm not talking broscience either)
Peptides, as with any foregin substance in the body, must be monitored closely. Regardless of the test subject, its all in the name of research. What is research without observations? Nothing.
Thanks i don't know many studies been on himan oops!!! you meant when you wrote your note HUMAN. Again i work in that field and all of you that act like docs , and researchers please just don't get offended if another opinion is inserted . Who monitors yours?? do you know what test to check and requires to do ?? do you even have access to the test ?? again you talk big and no delivery!! I am educated hands on . Anyway i am done with this conversation ! Good luck with your readings.By the way learn how to spell it will help you on your readings!!
