Phil Heath's Macros

[BP2000]

Does GH make you tired only at high doses? What are the effects at lower doses

 

[bigdtrain]

yes gh makes you tired. at lower doses you still may feel numbness in hands or feet

 

[oufinny]

Well drugs or not, Phil did win and he did look pretty darn good doing it. Maybe that is the end for Jay, would love to see guys move towards the bodies we saw in the late 70s/early 80s but I doubt that will happen. Now they are crazy huge and not proportionate anymore.

 

[Digitalash]

I have no problem with the crazy mass, I just wanna see smaller guts. I'm guessing the two can't coincide though with all the gh/slin these guys use. Hopefully they'll come out with something that prevents organ growth or whatever exactly happens to these freaks lol

 

[bobdylan]

toney freeman says he smokes weed i personally feel it does not affect bbing, however if your natural it probably will. but with hormones, lots of pros use

Yeah I have a really I mean really CLOSE buddy and he smokes pretty often.

Great for relaxing during the day especially when strung out on all the shit he takes that is bbing related, eating food and it is even nice to lift on.

If he is doing upper body stuff like an arms day just smokes a bit then hits a preworkout energy drink and has fun with it.

 

[BP2000]

So how does Weider get away with not testing the IBFF? If steriods are ILLEGAL and these guy's are displaying a huge sign (bodies) on stage that they are taking drug's, why do the feds not care?

They care about busting lab's and go through all that trouble to seize them. I guess if you use them they don't care? Like smoking a joint they don't care but if you sell then they do?

 

[btex34n88]

I love bodybuilding and will push myself past my limits to achieve the "body", but i will never use insulin or crazy amounts of gear, its too bad that in order to compete with these guys you have to be willing to jeopardize your health