bio-chem said:
my reference to the missionary position was of course limited to the history of this thread. if you are trying to make a point john maybe you should start by talking about the beliefs people have posted.
im very sorry to disapoint your convoluted thinking john boy, however i must for the sake of truth. in every major religion the words of God are recorded by his prophets and written down. Bible, Torah, Koran. all the recorded words of God. If you believe in Christ then you must go to those who have spoken with him personally, heard his words from his mouth and recorded them.
john you are more than capable of talking about false prophets at this point and men who say they have had visions and spoken with God and have a message for us from him. my reply to this is that while false prophets do exist it does not take away from the true ones, it only makes the true prophets messages more important, and God will show the true ones if you but ask him. Christ has always used prophets to tell his people of his message save a 3 year period of history when he lived in mortality on this earth.
if as you say God does accept homosexuality as an ok practice, i challenge you to prove it. show that at any time period of judeo-christian history homosexuality was acceptable. show an extra-biblical source during the time of Christ or shortly thereafter that shows the early christian church accepted homosexuality. Prove that it was only later through apostate men that the acceptance of homosexuality was changed and corrupted by man. the truth is you cant, because it doesnt exist. at no point in Judeo-Christian history has this been acceptable in the eyes of God.
in conclusion God has said homosexuality is wrong. if you accept this or not it really only effects you and your family. honestly and truthfully.
Bio,
The Bible, for example, was written by MEN - over 40 and over a long period of time. Many of those Men nothing more than glorified politicians. The Old Testament is nothing more than the old Jewish law books. The New Testament was written long AFTER the Death of Christ - approximately 200 or so years AFTER. BY MEN - Human Beings. Now in any area of the world on any street you can tell someone or have them see for themselves what "happened" and the VERY NEXT DAY ask those same people what they saw with their own eyes and you will get many who will not accurately say what happened or you can tell someone in your neighborhood - a group of people all at the same time the same thing - and the next day or so ask them what it was you told them and they will all NOT agree or relate accurately what transpired.
The Bible is a collection of literature - short stories, essays, fiction, prose, fairy tales, fables, tall tales, poetry, etc. and written in an area of the world where extreme unrest has always existed and probably always will and where there is always a power struggle, low employment, a lot of heat, humidity, sand blowing everywhere and in everything, etc. Many Many of the WORLD'S PROBLEMS have come from this area of the world and were actually "born" in this region - nastiness, hatred, bigtory, misery, etc. - ALL of these things I want nothing to do with ever. And will always defend myself, friends, and family against you can BE ABSOLUTELY SURE.
I always consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time OBJECTIVELY - with an open mind. I NEVER utilize just one source for anything. And anyone that does sets themselves up for disaster.
Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality ALL exist in Nature and the Natural world - of which Human Beings are a part. And always have. And always will. And are intended by Our Creator for valid reason(s). As with anything in life and living it is a natural part of the variety - variation(s) - that exist in all things.
You ask for proof - God NEVER SAID - HIMSELF. Christ NEVER SAID - HIMSELF. I go to the SOURCE - NEVER second-hand information. You say you believe in Christ - well you tell me how it is that Christ Himself NEVER SAID ONE WORD in the entire time He is said to have been on this earth - 32 (THIRTY-TWO) YEARS - and NEVER DID He say ONE WORD - EVER. He is said to have said a lot about other things - what happened? Did He "forget"? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT!! IF what you say is so wrong HE WOULD HAVE SAID SO HIMSELF AND HE NEVER DID ONE TIME and He had PLENTY OF TIME TO SAY SOMETHING HIMSELF. He NEVER DID. You can not "get around" THAT FACT.
The Bible you like to always quote as being "abolute"- how is it that the Bible says that if a Man dies his brother is supposed to take over for him and fuck his dead brother's wife? Are you planning on taking that following what it says? Or how about pork? And how about.... You do not want me to list more....
Again, GOD NEVER said ONE WORD. Christ NEVER SAID ONE WORD. EVER. PERIOD. I always question anything Man has to say. Man is not perfect and certainly not pure.
Also, I am not into brainwashing. And I do not "lord over" others.
John H.
