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Plasma or LCD, help me decide.

Which one?

  • Plasma

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • LCD

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • 13'' black and white

    Votes: 5 35.7%

  • Total voters
    14
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Audio newbies often throw out the "But I heard that Bose is good!" defense, to which I respond "From who?" Was it a sound engineer, electrical engineer, materials scientist, studio engineer, sound producer, recording professional, musician, Mark Levinson? Ray Dolby? George Lucas? Anyone credible? Or was it your neighbor with the GoldStar walkman, Teac boom box, Funai mini-system, and Sylvania receiver?
Ouch. That's my father in law to a tee....with the members only jacket.
 
GOT THX?:
Considering the large emphasis on marketing that Bose places on its products as well as the ostentatious boasting of "innovation" and "performance", I am curious as to why none, count them: ZERO, of their speakers are THX-certified. George Lucas offers certification to any product from any company willing to undergo the scrutiny of his tests. I'm sure Dr. Amar Bose has brought in many Bose speakers to the Skywalker Ranch for certification only to have them rejected time and time again. I am no fan of THX-Certification myself; However, no one can deny that it is perhaps the singly most powerful marketing tool in the entire industry. One tool that Dr. Bose would not have overlooked, but again, one that he could not obtain for himself.


That says alot there.
 
I have to say though, there is no way you should plan on a high def TV without downloading HD torrents like discovery's planet earth to watch on the thing. I'm a bit-torrent freak and couldn't even deal without being able to watch fights and flix in HD from my comp. For that reason alone I'd go with an LCD. Plasmas have to many issues when used as a monitor. How well suited is your comp for use as an HD media center?
 
GOT THX?:



That says alot there.

It does, but in their defense, there's lots of well made high-end brands that do not bother with THX certification. THX Certification and circuitry is popular in receivers; speakers, not so much. Anthony Gallo's for instance mention that they build beyond THX specifications but do not (AFAIK) get certification. Still an amazing speaker that is art as much as it is a piece of sound equipment.
Avantgarde acoustic is another that comes to mind.

For a suggestions beyond what BestBuy and Circuit City have to offer...these are fairly popular for home theater: http://www.av123.com/products_category.php?section=speakers

Lots of bang for the buck.


If you want something a little more discriminating: Usher are incredible sounding speakers that I've heard personally and really impressed me: Usher Audio
paired up with Nuforce digital amps is a very good combination. NuForce


For a sub with lots of bang for little buck: SVS is worth consideration. SVSound - Home
 
For LCD, I personally think the Sony XBR line hands down looks the best, but the Sharp Aquos has the best picture for the price.

Plasma's burn in scares me: Can't play video games on them & I like to sit back enjoying what is on TV, not be worried whether an image has been on the screen too long.
 
I have to say though, there is no way you should plan on a high def TV without downloading HD torrents like discovery's planet earth to watch on the thing. I'm a bit-torrent freak and couldn't even deal without being able to watch fights and flix in HD from my comp. For that reason alone I'd go with an LCD. Plasmas have to many issues when used as a monitor. How well suited is your comp for use as an HD media center?
I have no idea, I never used it for movies. I usually buy the movies on DVD when they come out.
But that's something worth looking into.
 
It does, but in their defense, there's lots of well made high-end brands that do not bother with THX certification. THX Certification and circuitry is popular in receivers; speakers, not so much. Anthony Gallo's for instance mention that they build beyond THX specifications but do not (AFAIK) get certification. Still an amazing speaker that is art as much as it is a piece of sound equipment.
Avantgarde acoustic is another that comes to mind.

For a suggestions beyond what BestBuy and Circuit City have to offer...these are fairly popular for home theater: http://www.av123.com/products_category.php?section=speakers

Lots of bang for the buck.


If you want something a little more discriminating: Usher are incredible sounding speakers that I've heard personally and really impressed me: Usher Audio
paired up with Nuforce digital amps is a very good combination. NuForce


For a sub with lots of bang for little buck: SVS is worth consideration. SVSound - Home
Those are some handsome looking speakers, there's so much more reading and research I now need to do.
I thought picking out TV's was going to be harder.

I need to go find a high end electronics store and do some comparisons.

It's funny because my friend has the Bose system and he highly recommends them but I wasn't really impressed with the sound, I figured he didn't have them set up right.
 
For LCD, I personally think the Sony XBR line hands down looks the best, but the Sharp Aquos has the best picture for the price.

Plasma's burn in scares me: Can't play video games on them & I like to sit back enjoying what is on TV, not be worried whether an image has been on the screen too long.
I hear good things about the Sharp.......
 
Whatever happened to Carver Amps, they used to sell them on Crutchfield a while back.
I was impressed by the clear sound and looks of it but I google it Carver and I can't find a vendor.
 
I have a Samsung and love it. I think if you stay with Sony, Sharp or Samsung you will be ok. If you're a high roller though, go with Pioneer.
 
Phillips is well respected, I noticed there are a lot of Samsung users.
 
Phillips is well respected, I noticed there are a lot of Samsung users.
My 50" plasma is a Phillips. I have played video games and had my PC on it and have never had any image retention, ghosting, burn-in, nada. Just make sure you get a newer model and it has anti burn-in features. I do remember when I first got it I played God of War often and even with the static status markers of the game I barely noticed any ghosting, maybe just a little but it didn't last long at all...
 
Phillips is well respected, I noticed there are a lot of Samsung users.
My 50" plasma is a Phillips. I have played video games and had my PC on it and have never had any image retention, ghosting, burn-in, nada. Just make sure you get a newer model and it has anti burn-in features. I do remember when I first got it I played God of War often and even with the static status markers of the game I barely noticed any ghosting, maybe just a little but it didn't last long at all...


Oh and my 42" is a Samsung LCD I find both of them to be of exceptional quality, my first flat tv was a cheap Vizio plasma from Sam's Club, we decided to go cheap for our first one just to get used to owning one, after a few month's we returned it saying the blacks were washed out and got our Phillips....
 
My 50" plasma is a Phillips. I have played video games and had my PC on it and have never had any image retention, ghosting, burn-in, nada. Just make sure you get a newer model and it has anti burn-in features. I do remember when I first got it I played God of War often and even with the static status markers of the game I barely noticed any ghosting, maybe just a little but it didn't last long at all...


Oh and my 42" is a Samsung LCD I find both of them to be of exceptional quality, my first flat tv was a cheap Vizio plasma from Sam's Club, we decided to go cheap for our first one just to get used to owning one, after a few month's we returned it saying the blacks were washed out and got our Phillips....
What does that actually mean?
 
What does that actually mean?
It means that the bright pixels would remain though faded(ghosting) even when the screen would switch from a light scene to a dark scene. It's a partial burn-in that only lasts a few seconds but it's very annoying. BC said something about it earlier in the thread, how plasmas have less lag time so it can go from bright to dark instantly. But earlier plasma's in my own experience had that problem or at least the Vizio did....
 
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for audio, I would consider Klipsch.. I love how the horn tweeter sounds for movies and high volume music. As for TV's.. im not going to be much help. Maybe go to costco, and look at all the big screens and get the one with the best picture?
 
for audio, I would consider Klipsch.. I love how the horn tweeter sounds for movies and high volume music. As for TV's.. im not going to be much help. Maybe go to costco, and look at all the big screens and get the one with the best picture?
Klipsch also a well known name with a good rep.
We looking at a few of them at Costco the other day.
 
It means that the bright pixels would remain though faded(ghosting) even when the screen would switch from a light scene to a dark scene. It's a partial burn-in that only lasts a few seconds but it's very annoying. BC said something about it earlier in the thread, how plasmas have less lag time so it can go from bright to dark instantly. But earlier plasma's in my own experience had that problem or at least the Vizio did....
Earlier plasmas had a bad problem with ghosting in the cheaper models. Now it's a non-issue even IN the cheaper models. The problem with burn in is still with us though.

Earlier models even had riders in the warranty excluding flat pixels, but that too has been resolved.
 
for audio, I would consider Klipsch.. I love how the horn tweeter sounds for movies and high volume music. As for TV's.. im not going to be much help. Maybe go to costco, and look at all the big screens and get the one with the best picture?


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Sharp Aquos
52" 1080p LCD HDTV
Tuner: NTSC/ATSC/QAMResolution: 1920 x 1080
Contrast Ratio: 2000:1
Brightness: 450 cd/m2$2,799.99




The AQUOS® LCC-5262U sets a new standard for large-screen flat-panel TVs. With Full HD Spec 1080p resolution, dramatically enhanced black level and an elegant new design, it produces a breathtaking picture quality that is second to none.

Features:
  • Screen Size: 52??? (Diagonal Measurement 52-1/32")
  • Aspect Ratio 16:9
  • Resolution: 1920 x 1080
  • Contrast Ratio: 2000:1
  • Brightness: 450 cd/m2
  • Response Time: 4ms1
  • Lamp Life 60,000 hours2
  • Viewing Angle: 176º H x 176º V
  • Tuner: NTSC/ATSC/QAM
  • Table Stand Included
  • Limited Warranty 1 year parts and labor
  • Weight: 90.4lbs (w/ stand), 82.7lbs (w/ out stand)
  • Dimensions (w x h x d): 49 47/64" x 34 7/32" x 12 11/64" (w/ stand), 49 47/64" x 31 25/32" x 4 59/64" (w/ out stand)
Audio:
  • Speakers: 15 W + 15 W
Inputs/ Outputs:
  • HDMI??? Input x2
  • Component Input x2
  • S-Video Input x1
  • Composite Video Input (A/V) x3
  • Audio Inputs (L/R) x4
 
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Panasonic
58" Plasma HDTVResolution: 1366 x 768
Contrast Ratio: Up to 10,000:1$2,399.99

A 58" panel is 36% larger viewable screen space in comparison to a 50", and 94% larger in viewable screen space in comparison to a 42".

Click Here for Return Information and Costco Concierge Technical Support Services.

The realism of a TV's image is strongly linked to its contrast ratio, and this plasma features a high contrast ratio of up to 10,000:12. Such a wide range from black to white means great depth and dimensionality with vibrant colors???and this plasma can display an incredible 29 billion colors for a superior picture.

Features:
  • Screen Size: 58??? Diagonal
  • Aspect Ratio 16:9
  • Resolution: 1366 x 768
  • Contrast Ratio: Up to 10,000:1
  • Digital Comb Filter
  • Progressive Scan
  • HDTV Compatibility: 480p/720p/1080i
  • Tuners: NTSC/ATSC/QAM
  • Weight: 130.1 lbs (w/ out stand), 138.9 lbs (w/ Stand)
  • Dimensions: 36.8'' x 55.1'' x 3.9'' (w/ out stand), 39.3" x 55.1" x 17" (w/ Stand)
Audio:
  • Speakers 2 x 20W (8 ohms, 70Hz - 17kHz, 10% THD)
Inputs/ Outputs:
  • HDMI-HDCP: x2
  • Analog Audio Input (for HDMI): x2
  • Component Video Input: x2
  • Audio Input (for Component Video): x2
  • S-Video Input: x3 (2 rear, 1 front)
  • Composite Video Input: x3 (2 rear, 1 front)
  • Composite Video Output: x1
  • Audio Input (for Video): x3 (2 rear, 1 front)
  • Audio Output: x1
  • Digital Audio Out: x1 (optical)
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The industry is in no rush to adopt laser lighting FWIW.

SED should turn the industry on it's head if it gets hold.

Yea, I thought those were due this year 4th quarter?

I put off getting a tv last year hoping to get an SED this year

SED TV Technology

they sound amazing
 
Surface-conduction electron-emitter display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In December 2006, Toshiba President and Chief Executive Atsutoshi Nishida said Toshiba is on track to mass-produce SED TV sets in cooperation with Canon by 2008. He said the company plans to start small-output production in the fall of 2007 [6], but they do not expect SED displays to become a commodity and will not release the technology to the consumer market because of its expected high price, reserving it solely for professional broadcasting applications. [7]


Is that still an accurate statement?






also about pricing

"Pricing
The cost of flat panels is largely dependent on production yields of saleable product. Nobody really knows for sure what this will be until real production starts, but new technology is always expensive in early production. If it works, the use of inkjet technology to make SED displays rather than the more expensive photolithography process used in LCD panels should help cost management. The first product release will be a 55" version at full HD resolution (1920x1080) priced comparably to today's plasma display panel (PDP) of similar size. That could be a big dollar difference by early 2007, as the price of plasma displays is expected to continue to drop."



hmmm I dunno, I guess Ill just wait and see....

:hmmm:
 
LCD pixilate.
-1

I heard LCD pixelation was caused by signal clarity or speed...
(most commonly improper cabling)

For instance if you have a 1080p and the blue ray player...
Even at that high a quality, a fast action movie will not pixelate
 
Mino, that Panasonic was a nice set but you're comparing apples to oranges with that and the Sharp. The Panasonic was 1080i vs the Sharp which was 1080p. Obviously the 1080i is much less expensive and you can get a very nice 1080i set for $1500.

A lot of people say you can't tell the difference between the two but when I play a blue ray movie I can easily tell the difference and it's well worth the few extra bucks!
 
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